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>Hume’s view on external objects is that the mind is programmed to form some concept of the external world, although this concept or idea is really just a fabrication.

So is Hume an idealist?
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The passage you quote doesn't seem to strictly imply that he is an idealist, but:

Hume adheres to something called 'phenomenalism' which states that the concept of matter is incoherent and that it makes no sense to say that matter and sense data are two different things. We supposedly interpret our interactions with everyday 'physical' objects via our senses. But Humes denies this; he says that we have no way of separating ourselves and looking at the external world without this sense data. Thus, he denies that we interpret the world (there is no such interpretation function) at all and that everything "physical"--all matter--are mere sense data.
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>yfw Hume is actually a neutral monist

http://www.askphilosophers.org/question/5432
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Yes. Radical empiricism is absolute idealism.

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Last one died

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I'm sure I've seen some of you autists around here lurking second hand book stores.
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>>8383035
Anyone at Missouri?
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Norway ~Oslo?
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Tolouse?

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What is he listening to, lit?
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>>8382958
http://youtu.be/80X0pbCV_t4
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>>8382958
You see, he was already listening to ideology all the time.
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merzbow

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Does anyone here have experience with finding free Audible files online?

Anyone know where I can get a free download of The Recognitions read by Nick Sullivan?
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the only place i've found is audiobookbay. i also recommend seeing if you can interlibrary loan audio CDs of certain things that you cannot find there. maybe check soulseek, but audiobooks seem to be rare on there.
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i feel like the recognitions would be a terrible book to 'listen to,' rather than read. i couldn't find it on audiobookbay. all i could find of gaddis on soulseek is epubs. sorry bro. i recommend ILLing it.
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>>8383954
His other books do make more sense as audio because they're mostly dialogue, but I think a competent enough narrator could make The Recognitions work.

Though if you're talking about a first reading, I agree that it's a terrible idea to listen to it in lieu of one. In general, I think audiobooks of anything more substantiative than airport fiction should only be listened to after at least one reading as dramatizations of sorts.

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this is more important to modern American culture than any other novel, prove me wrong
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>>8382864
nah, senpai.
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>infinite jest

more like endless jape
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>>8382864
It's too early to tell

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>"It was a dark and stormy night; the rain fell in torrents — except at occasional intervals, when it was checked by a violent gust of wind which swept up the streets (for it is in London that our scene lies), rattling along the housetops, and fiercely agitating the scanty flame of the lamps that struggled against the darkness."

Ask any English undergrad to explain why this line is bad and they'll make a fool of themselves. Common explanations include

>dark night is a pleonasm

There are bright moonlit nights.

>starts with "It was"
"It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen." —George Orwell, 1984 (1949)

"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times" —Charles Dickens, A Tale of Two Cities (1859)

"It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a wife." —Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice (1813)

Failing this they'll usually regurtitate back a canned response like "it's purple prose" without any ability to elaborate further.

So tell me /lit/, why is this line bad? And if you weren't taught in school that this line was supposed to be bad, would you be able to discern its quality yourself? Be honest.
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>>8382861
I don't think it is dreadful, but the addition of (for it is in London that our scene lies) makes it sound comical. It reads as if the narrator forgot to mention that detail earlier and it breaks the rythmn of the sentence.

I would split the sentence in two, ending the first at up the streets. The next would read: 'The wind rattled along the housetops and fiercly agitated the scanty flames of those lamps which struggled against the darkness.'

The third sentence would be the better place to introduce the scene. We have a brodding description which is then followed by a confirmation.
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>>8382898
Actually: 'The wind rattled along the housetops, fiercly agitating those lamps struggling against the darkness.' Sounds better.
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>>8382912
>those lamps
why

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How to be subtle in mocking?
My chad brother died recently. I didn't care. He was 4 years older than me and treated me like shit, just like my whole family. However, I have been asked to give a eulogy at his funeral. I cannot refuse without seeming like a monster, so I have agreed and prepared a short Eulogy. I am attempting to make it passive aggressive and I wish to use the moment to expose how poorly my brother treated me. Do you think this is a wise idea? I am hoping to tell a story that makes me look sympathetic and makes people feel bad for even attending his funeral, however, I don't want it to seem intentional. So far I have 2 pages written. I would like advise on what more you think I can say. I also ask for advise on how to be more subtle
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No. Assuming this isnt bait, this is a horrible idea and will further alienate you from your family. Say something generic about how you didnt always see eye to eye but he was there when you needed him etc etc.
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>>8382811
b8 is too obvious. Your post was enough to make me think you could be a sperg, but then the eulogy took it too far, way too fast. 3/10
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>>8382811
Don't fucking do it. The funeral is about your brother's memory. Not your petty insecurities. Grow the fuck up and stop being so self-absorbed. I hope you are baiting right now.

where to start with Noam Chomsky?
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Roger Scruton - Thinkers of the New Left
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*takes a long drag from his cigarette* Ahh.. so refreshing.. Oh, hello. Didn't see you there.


>>8382807
Listen to this man.
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>>8382803
>where to start with Noam Chomsky?
You should ask him through his university email

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Not sure if this is the best place to ask but how can I acquire better sense of humor and become funnier person?
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Funny people are boring.
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>>8382816
Well that seems to not be the case usually but even then I don't want to become a comedian, just to have a decent sense of humor.
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>>8382816

Seconded. But humor isn't boring.

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I am going to read him and see what all the fuss is all about, both positive and negative.

What are his best works?
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IT...Read IT
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I can't recommend anything in good conscience.
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wonder if he reads

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Is NaNoWriMo something you guys discuss?
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Sadly.
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Pretty much every thread about it here that I've seen has been people shitting on it. Which is really all there is to say about it t b h.
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>>8382793
Do they not like how it prioritizes quantity over quality?

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Just read symposium, what's with all the homo shit?
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it's not gay if they're younger
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>>8382708
It's the manliest form of masculinity
Insecure faggot
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>>8382708

Because Christianity ruined sanctity of embracing another man's body with one's own. Christianity is full of philistine plebs.

In honor of the Olympics, write poems about sports and the glories of the human body.

Or simply post poems or any excerpts that you like about the subject.

Also, did you know that there used to be poetry competitions in the early modern Olympics?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_competitions_at_the_Summer_Olympics
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>>8382659

More inspiration
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A French gymnast fell
His leg broke (oh, hell)
Wait, not French - he's Arab
Then who cares. They smell
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>>8382668

miring

http://aquicoral.blogspot.com.br/2016/02/stadio-dei-marmi-escultura.html

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During a conversation with Leonard Pierce of the A.V. Club, Harold Bloom said, "I don't know what I would choose if I had to select a single work of sublime fiction from the last century... it would probably be Mason & Dixon, if it were a full-scale book, or if it were a short novel it would probably be The Crying Of Lot 49. Pynchon has the same relation to fiction, I think, that my friend John Ashbery has to poetry: he is beyond compare."

do you agree? why haven't you read this yet?
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>>8382628
>Bloom puts Mason & Dixon over Gravity's Rainbow
Pretty based tbqh
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>>8382630
Good post.
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I really don't understand Bloom. He's pretty good on pre-modern literature, even if he is a one-trick pony. But on modern literature he likes the schlockiest fucking HE HE HE ITS POSTMODERN garbage that was only good for 5 years before it was overdone.

He just seems like more the kind of guy who would go and explain to random kids playing Pokemon in a museum why they should pay attention to some Durer painting, than the guy who jerks off in front of Rauschenberg's "Explosive Chili Farts #9."

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Why doesn't he use quotation marks?
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He thinks they're too messy and unnecessary. Also it forces him to distinguish the voice of the characters mind as well as forcing the reader to do more work to figure it out. Im not sure if he intends it that way but
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>>8382602
Good post.
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WEIRD

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