wtf i hate england now
Go read Kierkegaard you loser, being is thought you fucking faggot stop biting the pre-socratic pill so hard
>>8383354
>English = Utilitarianism
Wasn't John Locke an Englishman?
>>8383354
me too desu
Any advice on writing good poetry, /lit/?
Write in structured meter, at least at first.
Read and write lots.
be a sadboy
also helps if you are Shakespeare
>>8383331
Be yourself. Your poetry is aan expression of you.
My poetry is shit but at least it's MY shit
How do you find critical analysis of literature that focuses on the style of the writer rather than the meaning? Something that analyzes the syntactical rhythm, vocabulary, grammar etc. of the text in a detailed way? I feel like this sort of analysis would really help me as a writer, but I have a hard time finding it.
>>8383314
Just analyze it yourself, anon. The opinion of critics won't help you. Get down and dirty with it, climb in under the sheets and do the hanky-panky! The only way to get to know a text indeed. Love dat skylight.
>>8383321
t-thanks
>>8383314
bump
Are there any books where the male main character is literally fucked in the ass by the main villain?
>>8383261
Literally everything Chuck Tingle ever wrote, I think. Although they're probably not really villains.
Das Kapital by Karl Marx
Check your mother's bookshelf
You know, I don’t want to be offensive. But ‘Infinite Jest’ [regarded by many as Wallace’s masterpiece] is just awful. It seems ridiculous to have to say it. He can’t think, he can’t write. There’s no discernible talent.
>>8383223
Fuck you, you're gay
>>8383229
/thread
>>8383223
go to bed grandpa
you're 87 aren't you
>mfw I realize free will isn't a thing
aww babbys for existential book? time for snack!
>>8383185
He looks almost like an abo there.
Tolstoy was a hack.
>>8383385
nah, hes literature is timeless, you arent even worthy of licking the shit off his boots, u fucking faggot
What sort of writing can we expect out of this new publication?
>>8383149
This is obviously a parody designed to piss off "whiny manbabbies." Don't let them succeed, you cucks.
And people ask me why I don't read the news.
>>8383149
nvm first article is already out
https://archive.is/8Iot2
would it be bad to explore 4chan and meme culture in a novel of the contemporary world? it feels somehow dirty or trivial to write about, but it is no insignificant force in our world
stfu your never going to write anything in your life you fucking faggot
>>8383151
Resentful failed writer detected.
>>8383151
/thread
is it worth it? is it actually all about prostitutes? will it make me come more often than lolita did?
>>8383122
great pose gets kinda boring at bits
>>8383122
>will it make me come more often than lolita did?
>>8383122
With Henry Miller, start with "Sexus" then the tropic books.
Definitely worth it, Miller is my favorite writer.
Critique my poetry bruhs
You are you, You were born as you, You can't be anyone else but you, If you try to be something your not than you are not you, You are the only one who should be you, Nobody else can make you feel like you, Your destiny is controlled by you, Be you and only you, You are the only one you have in this world in the end, Be the one thing that makes everyone beautiful, Younique
I don't like it, it doesn't have any essence, you just threw random shit in rhyme
>>8383106
Very good, dug it. Reminds me a bit of Baudelaire and Les fleurs de mal. You should look for an open spot at a poetry reading and go out there and perform. You are on the right path, bruv.
In Defense of Purple Prose, by Paul West
http://www.nytimes.com/1985/12/15/books/in-defense-of-purple-prose.html?pagewanted=all
(…)the almost lost art of phrasemaking attracts the scorn only of those who have never made up a stylish phrase in their lives, as if style had become taboo, a menace to people, gods and cars.
Of course, purple is not only highly colored prose. It is the world written up, intensified and made pleasurably palpable, not only to suggest the impetuous abundance of Creation, but also to add to it by showing - showing off - the expansive power of the mind itself, its unique knack for making itself at home among trees, dawns, viruses, and then turning them into something else: a word, a daub, a sonata. The impulse here is to make everything larger than life, almost to overrespond, maybe because, habituated to life written down, in both senses, we become inured and have to be awakened with something almost intolerably vivid. When the deep purple blooms, you are looking at a dimension, not a posy.
(…)
Certain producers of plain prose have conned the reading public into believing that only in prose plain, humdrum or flat can you articulate the mind of inarticulate ordinary Joe. Even to begin to do that you need to be more articulate than Joe, or you might as well tape-record him and leave it at that. This minimalist vogue depends on the premise that only an almost invisible style can be sincere, honest, moving, sensitive and so forth, whereas prose that draws attention to itself by being revved up, ample, intense, incandescent or flamboyant turns its back on something almost holy - the human bond with ordinariness. I doubt if much unmitigated ordinariness can exist. As Harold Nicolson, the critic and biographer, once observed, only one man in a thousand is boring, and he's interesting because he's a man in a thousand. Surely the passion for the plain, the homespun, the banal, is itself a form of betrayal, a refusal to look honestly at a complex universe, a get-poor-quick attitude that wraps up everything in simplistic formulas never to be inspected for veracity or substance. Got up as a cry from the heart, it is really an excuse for dull and mindless writing, larded over with the democratic myth that says this is how most folks are. Well, most folks are lazy, especially when confronted with a book, and some writers are lazy too, writing in the same anonymous style as everyone else.
How many prose writers can you identify from their style? Not many have that singular emanation from the temperament or those combinations of words all of them characteristic for a certain gait, a certain tone, a certain idiosyncratic consecutiveness of thought and image. Stone the crows by all means, but let the birds of paradise get on with the business of being gorgeous.
>>8383083
(…)
I am suggesting that purple prose reminds us of things we do ill to forget: the arbitrary, derivative and fictional nature of language; its unreliable relationship with phenomena (''cuckoo'' is close, but ''indri,'' meaning ''look!'' in Malagasy, got tagged on to the monkey of that name by mistake); its kinship with paint and voodoo and gesture and wordless song; its sheer mystery; its enormous distance from mathematics and photography; its affinities with pleasure and luxury; its capacity for hitting the mind's eye - the mind's ear, the mind's very membranes - with what isn't there, with what is impossible and (until the very moment of its investiture in words) unthinkable.
(…)
I have heard it said that writing that ponders things in detail, takes its time and habitually masticates its object until a wonder leaps forth, is ''Victorian,'' no doubt because the word evokes portly self-satisfaction or finicky dawdling. It makes more sense, though, to think of purple as Elizabethan or Jacobean: fine language, all the way from articulate frenzy to garish excess. Purple, it seems to me, is when the microcosm fights back against the always victorious and uncaring macrocosm, whose relative immortality we cannot forgive.
Everybody says Shakespeare is great, even the greatest of all poets (he certainly is up there, no doubt about it), yet every new writer who uses metaphors and imagery is deemed as purple, and that in the bad sense of the word. So why can Shakespeare, a master of purple, be valued and other deeply metaphorical writers be known as false and artificial and empty Peacocks
>>8383247
I assume it's because their purple prose is bad and Shakespeare's is good.
thoughts on this individual?
situation
mac&cheese
kek manatee
Does everyone have a higher self that is same for all beings?
No, just me.
>>8383070
It's not the same, or even consistent within yourself for overlong without you consciously maintaining it as such (and even then it will still be a relative rather than absolute resemblance). Neither is the daimon/daemon/clan totem/HGA exactly the same between cultures or even individuals within the same culture. It is worth noting that there are more similarities than differences, however; so there are boundaries. But within boundaries there are still infinite possibilities.
>>8383070
I'm writing a series of poems about this very Idea.
Yes.
Let's get a thread started on The Wake. Our thoughts on this masterpiece and all it entails. Which is broad, considering it is the final culmination of culture, the hegelian end of history, and thus contains the totality of experience in one literary artifact. Let's unravel this beast.
Is it just me who love Joyce's style in this one? The Stream of consciousness style invokes a dreamy feel, and the cyclical nature of the work takes you deeper into the mind of Finnegan by mimicking his dream cycles. I feel the theme is really the cyclical nature of time and the endless return of history in the particular. A truth first grasped in the awakening; in the opague rememberance of the dream.
>>8383069
This conversation is better done in dissertations.
Wakeposting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAc901X7gK0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH1kaHt3Fa8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8kFqiv8Vww
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTb9oqNMma4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nw1CI2TCqU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV3vT5nW_I4
>>8383075
But the point is to let The Wake free and bring it out to the people to let them experience its presence. To bring Finnegan out of the college dissertations and out into the minds of the people on the streets, the chan and so on.
(Although it is already there, but they'll only realize that in their awakening; in their opague rememberance of a dream image).
I'm looking to pick up some light reading and one genre I haven't really explored is period pulp noir. Unfortunately due to the nature of the genre, there's a ton of rubbish. Any decent authors that stand out in this genre?
>period pulp
>>8383072
What would you call 'Stuff written in the 1920s, 30s and 40s in the noir/pulp genre' then?
I'm feeling burnt out from an MA focusing on European Early Medieval legal and political systems and thought and just want something relaxing to read.
>>8383065
Raymond Chandler and Dashiell Hammet