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>>8387735
Friendly reminder Goethe's Faust is the most pleb. Literally a re-hash of Job' story only Faust didn't have the right to redemption

>>8387735

They were written 2 or 3 decades (?) apart, so people don't really think of them as one whole piece.

faust is shit, read infinite jest.

Yes, thinking is hard, Bobby. Get back to it.

>>8387719
read something more engaging/entertaining and stop making this thread

>>8387725
I made it once and got assaulted by shit posters.

In fact a mini-"recurrence" can be observed even in our limited water-glass experiment, since the initial wave will "recur", even if in significantly diminished form, for as many oscillations as it takes for its energy to be completely dissipated. Obviously, if dissipation were impossible, the wave would recur, in identical fashion, forever. That's how simple it is to understand, and prove, the eternal recurrence. Isn't it hilarious then how every single Nietzsche scholar of the past 130 years has questioned this blatantly self-evident concept? (self-evident, obviously, once Nietzsche has explained it to you). Some of them went as far as to try to prove that Nietzsche's philosophy could stand, largely unaffected, even without it! That's how convinced they were of its falsity! And yet it's right there, in perfectly unambiguous terms, in the man's notebooks: “The law of conservation of energy demands eternal recurrence". That's all it took to send me on the path of creating this little proof and thought-experiment that I just explained here. Maybe philosophical scholars simply haven't learned elementary physics? And maybe people who have learned elementary physics do not read philosophy? That's certainly my take on the educational background and intellectual habits of all those people. — William Plank, on the other hand (author of the Quantum Nietzsche), went the opposite way. He was so convinced of the reality of the concept (which is to say that he was so FASCINATED by it, and WANTED it to be true so badly), and so motivated by Nietzsche's references (in his notes) of his impending "proof" of it (a proof that never materialized, beyond the little snippet of it that I just quoted — which pretty much amounts to a proof, as I have explained, for anyone who understands even a little physics), that he set out to create his own proof, a bizarre extrapolation on the basis of Eigen's and Winkler's glass-bead games which, according to Plank, "cannot be disproved". And indeed I can't disprove it, if for no other reason than because I can't understand it. I can't understand, that is, how the laws (or lack of laws) that govern the configurations of beads in a glass-bead game are a proof of anything, least of all of the eternal recurrence; while Plank seems to think that merely repeating a few dozens times that something has been proved proves it. On top of the fact that, even if his proof is somehow valid, it's still superfluous next to my immeasurably simpler and more commonsensical one, never mind Nietzsche's ultra-succinct one-line note that says everything to those who know anything, the complete obliviousness towards which is what betrays that Plank hasn't really understood anything.

>the universe is a closed system

>>8388170
yes?

>>8387662
Ulysses is a modernist novel by Irish writer James Joyce. It was first serialised in parts in the American journal The Little Review from March 1918 to December 1920, and then published in its entirety by Sylvia Beach in February 1922, in Paris. It is considered to be one of the most important works of modernist literature, and has been called "a demonstration and summation of the entire movement". According to Declan Kiberd, "Before Joyce, no writer of fiction had so foregrounded the process of thinking."

Ulysses chronicles the peripatetic appointments and encounters of Leopold Bloom in Dublin in the course of an ordinary day, 16 June 1904. Ulysses is the Latinised name of Odysseus, the hero of Homer's epic poem Odyssey, and the novel establishes a series of parallels between the poem and the novel, with structural correspondences between the characters and experiences of Leopold Bloom and Odysseus, Molly Bloom and Penelope, and Stephen Dedalus and Telemachus, in addition to events and themes of the early twentieth century context of modernism, Dublin, and Ireland's relationship to Britain. The novel imitates registers of centuries of English literature and is highly allusive.

Ulysses is approximately 265,000 words in length and is divided into eighteen episodes. Since publication, the book has attracted controversy and scrutiny, ranging from early obscenity trials to protracted textual "Joyce Wars". Ulysses' stream-of-consciousness technique, careful structuring, and experimental prose — full of puns, parodies, and allusions — as well as its rich characterisation and broad humour, made the book a highly regarded novel in the modernist pantheon. Joyce fans worldwide now celebrate 16 June as Bloomsday.

>>8387662
so many things wrong with this post.

1. How are you simultaneously reading Ulysses and posting on /lit/?
2. "We" do not "speak" on /lit/
3. You're asking us if it's good yet we're not even the ones reading - you are!

I just marathoned the first ten pages. It's alright. Overrated though. I think I've finished the run and given it sufficient time. Probably a sold two and a half stars.

>>8387658
this is a patently idiotic thing to say. there are loads and loads of extremely decent stuff available for piracy on Pirate Bay and Project Gutenberg.

The only "struggle" is possibly not having exactly the certain specific book you're thinking about. Broaden thine horizons and ihr kampf will evaporate.

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>Reading contemporary """literature"""

>>8387675
>Go to Pirate bay
>Open ebook section
>300 pages of self help books

Kickass was better as you could sort stuff.

>>8387639
my ASS lol

>>8387641
>Don't bother answering if you haven't read it in its entirety.

>>8387639
Problem Sleuth was elegant and complex.
HS was absolute shit, corrupted by pandering and nonsensical shitty random-access humor.

>>8387625
I want /tv/ to leave.

>>8387630
>precious elitism

>>8387696
my precious elitism is why you get to google books instead of grey's anatomy.

Pierre Clastres.

He's kind of deluded though.

>>8387619
will check out

>>8387593
>My turn towards traditionalist conservatism was significantly influenced by works of anarchist anthropology
In what way?

If you're not bewildered by everything, you haven't gotten gud yet.

>>8387604

>implying bewilderment isn't the first step towards enlightenment

>>8387620
>implying that was implied

because they took "writing what you know" as writing what you see.

don't worry, soon it will be all stories of le immigrant hardship and tranny + womens' struggle from the perspective of WASPs

>>8387585
Gentle reminder that upper middle class white problems, especially those relating to WASP domestic conflict and millennial malease, are artistically superior and far more interesting and complex than the idiotic problems of envious and spiteful lumpenproles.

You can't fully comprehend the inherent struggles and contradictions of human existence unless you approach the subject from a position of privilege. If you're grasping at difficult truths from the dirt then all you know is Breaking Bad reruns and Domino's pizza. You'll probably imitate a mediocre writer "who lived to the fullest" like Bukowski or Hemingway and end up producing "something real" i.e. wet dogshit

Perhaps your post is poorly written but

>Other people I see use "poorly written" to describe the author's way of imagining a story, defining character, or composing a narrative

and

>to describe a work that either A) failed to be fluid or descriptive, or worse B) was clunky, atonal, or had poor grammatical constructions, etc

are much the same.

>>8387701
Not OP but I've kind of always had the same question. When I was in school, I could write anything but personal narratives (I don't like writing down the stupid shit I got into because of some shit that happened in grade/high school). When my professors would write "poorly written" on my narratives I would ask them what was wrong and they would just parrot "It was poorly written!" at me a thousand times.

>I still suck at writing personal narratives.

This is a decent thread, why is it dying?

I never really thought about it. I consider poorly written whatever I inherently consider shit

bump...

you're diary

>>8387526
Jonathan Franzen - The Corrections

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>>8387508
He was part of the Frankfurt School.

I saw this picture posted the other day. Are /pol/ being stupid or is this true?

mods pls don't ban me if it's a troll pic, I'm genuinely curious and not here to stir shit up.

>>8387520

>frankfurt school
>freudian psychoanalisis

hahaha

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>>8387528
>Jew detected

>>8387495
THOMAS

FUCKING

PYNCHON

GRAVITY'S FUCKING RAINBOW

RAW POSTMODERNISM

Nobody actually says that. Wallace was a fat fuck with shitty hair and a patchy beard. The bandana hurt more than it helped, also.

>>8387495
aphex twin?