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Is this poorly written? v2

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>>8461818
Not necessarily poorly written but it reads pretty blandly. Try moving some things around in your sentences and spell out numbers unless they're large (I got with anything under the teens to spell out). I guess that's more of a personal stylistic choice but I just hate seeing, "We had 1 dog."

>The yard would be tree lined, much like the roads. Behind lies a gigantic dense forest, surrounding a meadow that I would take my dog to and children if I had any.

There's a change in tense here (would be vs is tree lined). It can also be a little more interesting.

>Behind my tree lined yard lies a gigantic dense forest. I take my dog to walk through the woods into a large meadow and my kids if I had any.

It is a little boring but actually seems kind of interesting at the same time. I assume this is about yourself?
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>>8461835
Let me add a little more good to this. I AM interesting in where the writing is going. Do you drink cheap whiskey or expensive whiskey? Are they dry, harsh cigarettes, or do you feel some kind of satisfaction smoking them?

Some small description would go a long way but I do like that you're not just writing self indulgent bullshit. The shortness of sentences is also a personal preference of mine. I would read more of what you wrote but I would very much prefer more description (is the driveway dirt, gravel or paved? Do your friends have all their teeth? Stuff like that).
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>>8461818
there are way less mistakes now, although i have to note this piece is also shorter than the previous one. now my main issue is just that the sentences are sometimes structured very unnaturally, like you're translating your thoughts from another language. same could be said about your choice of words. so i think you should just read a bit more and you'll be cool.

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Have any works of art been so impressive in depth, argument, and insight as to change your whole life around?

For me, it was Schopenhauer's 'On Women'.
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>>8461763
oh look it's the sex politics frogposter
still posting shitty threads here i see
have you been outside yet mate? talked to any real people? maybe eaten some healthy food?
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>>8461813
>going outside

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Mockingjay

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I read On The Road and want to read some more stuff about being beat, bumming around, and having hip adventures. Any recommendations? Either Kerouac or someone else is fine.
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>>8461687
the divine comedy
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candide
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>>8461687
Tortilla Flat is kind of similar, about a bunch of guys who are poor, unemployed drunks who live out their lives in California. It's a great story and I loved the characters in the end even though they acted like trash to themselves and strangers at times. Kind of like real people.

You have much more patience than me if you were able to enjoy On the Road. I've never been able to enjoy any of Kerouac's writing.

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>about to start Oxen of the Sun
wish me luck, boys
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>>8461635
good luck, boy
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gōd lock, cild
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good goy, vey

why do people so often refer to DFW as being particularly physically attractive? David Lipsky mentions it in his extended interview with Wallace, and Franzen does at one point in one of the articles he wrote about him.

also, why did he try so hard to present himself as something that he wasn't? in his interviews, particularly those in the mid to late nineties, he comes across as being overwhelmingly self-conscious, self-hating, and fake. I read through a collection of interviews with him, and he was a lot more forthcoming about himself in a very real way in his first few major interviews, and then he very significantly stops talking about himself in any meaningful way, and often outright lies.
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>>8461608

Well he isn't ugly but isn't a model. I guess Franzen looked in the mirror and then at Wallace and went, "whoa, he's hot." He has a nice smile.

Franzen really isn't ugly either from some angles, just a bit odd looking
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Everybody's fake on the inside - humans learn by imitation.

Being publicly and transparently fake is, in a meta sort of way, as real as you can get.
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>>8461608
He was a a narcissist. Very insecure and tried hard to present an image of someone who was really intellectual yet on wavelength with the stupid general populace, hence the exaggerated affectation of seeming to struggle with complex ideas and putting them into thoughts, as if he didn't want to appear intellectual and 'phony' but "sincere" and not an ivory tower faggot.

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What's the Serbian Film of books??
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My diary desu
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anything by this beta boy
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mein Tagebuch desu

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What kind of actual PLEB would buy just The Grand Inquisitor and not buy Karamazov and read them together??
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>>8462194
Actually the pleb would buy Crime and Punishment
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>>8461532

Why would apologize? His Grand Inquisitor was a false straw man. Catholic Spain didnt fall to communism, Orthodox Russia did.

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Anyone else a big fan of Dostoyevsky despite being deeply unimpressed by his theology?
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>>8461503

well, he's a writer, not a philosopher. I see no problem with your opinion.
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I'm halfway through The Brothers Karamazov.

Could it possibly be the undisputed GOATest novel of all time?
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>>8461517
It could, were it not for the
MEME™
SUPREME™
INFINTE™
JEST™

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What's the best version of the bible to read for literary purposes? I was thinking the KJ but I believe that was heavily edited to suit the needs of medieval Europe. Is there a version that more closely resembles the original version? Also, what order should it be read in?
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>>8461479
Bumping. I want to know as well. thinking about reading the bible. Heard KJ was the best version.
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read The Jerusalem Bible instead of heretic fanfiction

>>8461479
nice pic btw, is there any /lit/ version of that?
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>>8461479
oxford annotated bible

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why did /lit/ tell me to read this?
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Mainly because it's the greatest literary achievement of all time.
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>>8461411
>the greatest literary achievement of all time is The Three Stooges novelization
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lol, are you literally a retard?

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https://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2016/mar/21/for-me-traditional-publishing-means-poverty-but-self-publish-no-way
http://goodereader.com/blog/commentary/self-published-authors-are-destroying-literature

Opinions?
Is self publishing destroying literature or are these just old people not understanding the internet?

Does youtube also destroy films?
Does deviantart also destroy painting?
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>>8461349

Can't say I understand.

>"Real authors can't compete with the prices of self-published works"
How is it self-publishers' fault if people buy their trash instead of proper publications? It's the consumers' freedom to do so. If limiting options to professional-only is the only way to make people buy professional authors' works, then doesn't that just mean said works are not really that good or appealing either? "The goal of art isn't to appeal", maybe. But that does that mean people should be forced to pay for culture?

>"Real authors lose visibility"
Yet the writer goes on to bash self-publishers for poor marketing? Self-publishers don't do promotional tours, they aren't interviewed on TV, radio, or magazines, yet they somehow completely overshadow pros by being annoying online? Doesn't make much sense to me.
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>>8462131
it just comes down to old ladies ranting about not understanding the internet.
that's my guess.
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Traditional publishing destroyed itself by turning into a mill for garbage half a century ago and getting even worse with each passing decade. What they failed to realize is that once you start selling people trash it's only a matter of time before they decide to get their fix faster and cheaper.

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I have downloaded ebooks but real books area real books if you know what I mean. What do you think?

https://www.amazon.com/Spice-Anniversary-Collectors-Isuna-Hasekura/dp/0316504017/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1472488362&sr=1-1&keywords=spice%20and%20wolf%20anniversary
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>translations
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>>8461429
>not reading translations
pleb
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> $150 for weeb shit

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I'm drawing a lot of similarities, in terms of structure and style, between pic related and 100 years of solitude. Does anyone else find that when they read these two novels?

They're both expansive and follow specific people as they grow and change. East of Eden is less magical than 100 years of solitude, but there is still this spiritual and divine air to it that I felt when I read Marquez's novel.

I'm not done East of Eden yet, though, so this may change.
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>>8461239
Is it good OP?
ive read Grapes of Wrath and of mice and men and loved them. I don't care what anyone says Steinbeck is the best descriptor of nature Ever?
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>>8461276
it's amazing!!
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>>8461276
It's John Steinbeck's masterpiece.

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Did Bacon do more harm or good for western society?
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>>8461237
>Bacon, the "Selbst-Tierquäler"
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>>8461237
That´s up to society.
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>>8461237
before Bacon = tradition, hierarchy, civility
after Bacon = degeneracy, interracial relationships, leftism

I think it's clear

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So, I have recently started to play the guitar and /mu/ pointed me to JustinGuitar.com which is an incredibly good teacher with so many structured and well thought lessons.
I'm learning so much!

Is there something similar for writing? I've been writing for some years, amateurishly, and I think I'm pretty good, I've done well in some contests and even had a short story published in an antology but I want to see what else is ut there that I dont know.
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>>8461233
>JustinGuitar.com
just listen to music you like and try to play on your own
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justinwriting.com
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>>8461233
I immediately opened the thread as soon as I saw his picture. His videos are really old school and it was thanks to him that I got around learning guitar some 6 years back. Many many great afternoons playing. He seems like an awesome guy IRL.

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