What are your views on cybernetics?
Is this just glorified geometry/topology in a new dress applied to a wider landscape of potential subjects or is there an underlying breakthrough here thats going over my head
see:
Norbert Wiener's Cybernetics, Claude Shannon's a mathematical theory of communication
>>8463987
it's for CEOs
>>8463987
>or is there an underlying breakthrough here thats going over my head
It's not going over, it's going under. Feedback loops and other classic cybernetic concepts have become such basic knowledge that we just can't see them as impressive or interesting anymore.
>>8464010
what's the next step?
I've heard of second order cybernetics (which changes how it changes given input) -
what are the implications of 3rd, or exponential cybernetic orders?
even if I'm overthinking the basic concepts, you have to admit people quite clever eat this shit up and usually thats because more advanced literature on it actually contains serious insights
What's a meme gift to get my non /lit/ inclined sister for her 18th. She'll read anything but mainly reads YA.
HARDMODE: No incest
In general what books should I recommend to people like this? They won't want to start with the Greeks and would probably give up easily.
Lolita
>>8463892
120 Days of Sodom.
Siddhartha, obviously
how do i grow out of nihlism
Turn 15
depends on if you're a nihilist or a "nihilist"
start valuing things and you're no longer a nihilist
Read jiddu krishnamurti and ug krishnamurti little bitch faggot
>>8463813
Something Happened - Joseph Heller
It's about a middle aged man with a teenage daughter who hates him, a young son who is too nice for his own good and gets treated like shit by everyone, and a mentally retarded son. Not to mention he doesn't love his wife anymore.
Suicide - Edouard Leve
The narrator talks to a dead friend who committed suicide 20 years before.
>>8463813
my diary desu
>>8463813
Mein Tagebuch, um ehrlich zu sein.
agree or disagree?
Chiang is a great sci fi writer, but Moore is arguably the greatest comic book writer of all time
In terms of their own medium, Moore is much more influential than Chiang in his
After Jerusalem launches this question will seem fucking stupid.
>>8463821
Is Jerusalem even that good?
Hi /lit/, is there a word for saying or doing something that makes it more likely for that thing to occur?
Example: "Isn't naming our team 'the losers' just setting us up to lose'"
But instead of "setting us up" its that word which I hope you guys can help find for me. Thanks.
A self fulfilling prophecy perhaps.
>Example: "Isn't naming our team 'the losers' just setting us up to lose'"
Self-fulfilling prophecy, maybe?
foreshadowing
Can we describe books we love while making them sound terrible?
>bunch of guys run around and kill indians
>blood meridian needs help sounding terrible
seriously. put proper punctuation in and it's pretty pedestrian. but "art communities" have such an unending hardon for the idea that anyone who disregards convention must be a genius mccarthy's blah tripe get heralded as brilliant.
>>8463765
that sounds good to me though
>jew gets cucked and walks around a lot
knowing that his sci fi work will never be as imaginative as Delany's
wat
“I kept on killin’ ’em…But i didn’t come you know? It hurt…But it didn’t make me shoot…”
Hogg grinned at me. “Go on, cocksucker. Take it out.” He took his hand away.
Denny’s fell back on his thigh like a muddy claw.
I turned on the seat and pulled open Denny’s fly.
It looked awful. It was all swollen, and a funny color, even in the half-dark. When I took it out, it was stiff, but not like a hard-on. It was just leathery; it wobbled on his groin. The head was bulged up around the nail so there wasn’t any space left. The foreskin was stretched tight and didn’t move at all…
I took his balls out too. They were very hot. His cock was almost chilly.
I opened my mouth and bent.
Denny grunted.”
>>8463963
Who is the narrator if not Hogg himself?
>Friend goes to to Ivy League uni and majors in English, primarily go in interested in Fantasy, Sci Fi, and Jack London
>Takes classes in Classics, American and Jewish Literature, etc.
>graduates
>instantly comes back a raging leftist, sharing pics of slam poetry sessions as if they have any real substance and expressing how 20th century American Jewish poetry is the best poetry ever produced
Why does this always happen /lit/? Why is it that when contemporary politics and literature combine they instantly go to shit?
>>8463723
https://www.amazon.com/Closing-American-Mind-Education-Impoverished/dp/1451683200
>>8463723
>slam poetry
>raging leftism
Liberals and polyps make me laugh.
>>8463723
>going to the Ivy League to major in English
I never went any school close to that level, do people expect that these schools will teach them how to write well or do they just not know what to do with their lives?
Thoughts on Chuck's work?
Edgelord Supreme couldn't write a decent haiku without shock value.
>>8463711
He catches a lot of hell on this board, but I thought was pretty good.
>>8463763
*thought Rant was pretty good.
Time to go to bed.
Who is your favorite living author and your favorite book of theirs?
Pic related
>>8463698
Infinite Jest by pic related, the absolute madman David "Ruggles" Foster
>>8463703
Didn't he die like 8 years ago?
Underworld by Don Dellilo, the last 40 or so pages of that book gave me feels like no other
Is normal to suck really bad when you're beggining to write?
how much does it take before getting gud?
>>8463691
Yes it's normal. However, the truly genius writers are not normal, are they. And I am a genius.
How does /lit/ deal with writer's block
>inb4 thinking /lit/ is all the same, hivemind, etc
>>8463691
Almost everybody sucks shit at anything when they first start out.
Who else /superiorintelligence/ here? It's sad how the world is not built for us beings of higher consciousness. How does one withstand this lonely feeling of absolute superiority?
Just tell everybody around you several times a day how superior you are and how stupid they are, and how they are too stupid to even realise this.
>>8463830
I tried this approach and I'm met only with laughter and scorn!
How should I refine my approach? Less deprecation, more depravity?
I hate that I can't tell whether you're kidding.
What's the probability that some hidden knowledge is located at the Vatican's library?
Are there any good books that may have some insight into the Library's collection?
Anything "hidden" in the Vatican's archives is hidden for the good of mankind. Books on witchcraft, demon-summoning, and the like. Stuff that humans really should stay away from, regardless of what the folks on /x/ will tell you.
>>8463613
If you want to know so badly just break in action hero style, becoming a fugitive in the process, and run for the rest of the film while attempting to uncover ancient secrets to clear your name. In the process of doing so you will probably meet your love interest who you will grow more attached to throughout the movie until the end when you have your first and final kiss and she sacrifices herself to save the world. In all it would probably be a relativley low budget but decent action flick, getting somewhere between 75 and 80 percent on rotten tomatoes.
Anyone that attempts to access their secrets will be hunted down and murdered. There's a reason we don't know anything, they don't want us to know. More than likely it has conquered treasures they erased from history, or religious texts they do not want us to find.
What are some other Kafkaesque movies I should check out?
>>8463610
bugs's life
honey i shrunk the kids
george shrinks (theirs bugs in there somewhere and it is not a movie)
>>8463610
you're not wrong desu
Enemy