what one must read before Ulysses in order to make it less painful?
>reading is painful
find a new hobby
Hamlet
The Odyssey
Portrait
Should have knowledge of the Bible/catholicism as well.
Redpill me on this book, /lit/. I've done my fair share of LSD but I can't seem to get into it. Is this book jewish trash for plebians? Or am I (a patrician) just missing something?
>>8512584
>redpill me
Kill yourself
>>8512594
Redpill me on suicide, is it a good idea, or is it a jewish deception to subvert the west?
>>8512603
Funny
Here's the longlist for the National Book Awards.
1. Chris Bachelder, The Throwback Special (Norton)
2. Garth Greenwell, What Belongs to You (Farrar, Straus and Giroux)
3. Adam Haslett, Imagine Me Gone (Little, Brown)
4. Paulette Jiles, News of the World (William Morrow)
5. Karan Mahajan, The Association of Small Bombs(Viking)
6. Elizabeth McKenzie, The Portable Veblen (Penguin Press)
7. Lydia Millet, Sweet Lamb of Heaven (Norton)
8. Brad Watson, Miss Jane (Norton)
9. Colson Whitehead, The Underground Railroad (Doubleday)
10. Jacqueline Woodson, Another Brooklyn (Amistad)
Also check out this booktuber talk about her book unpopular opinions while on a very expensive looking boat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGofgixvPco
>>8512557
Why should we care about any of this shit?
Is it a le epic identity politics threads?
>>8512571
No. Just thought I would share what is considered good writing today with people who might not be familiar with contemporary fiction, no matter mine or anyone's opinion on it.
>>8512575
awards are literally just irl memes
Hi /lit anon inspiring writer anon here, I was wondering do you have any "writing software" to recommend me? I want something to remove distractions and to be easy on eyes, like dark screen with grey/green text? Thanks in advance.
>>8512544
You mean 'aspiring'
>>8512550
Yes. Sorry, English is my second language.
Libre Office writer - Just started using it, it's like MS Word. Got a fullscreen mode if that's something you're after and customizable colour scheme.
Currently reading Mythology by Edith Hamilton and really enjoying it. I'm into astronomy so it's cool to see the stories behind some of the names I recognise from constellations.
Anyway, I was wondering if you guys thought this chart from the wiki is still up to date/good? Is this a decent order to read in? Going to move on to the Iliad next.
If you like mythology and constellations you'll love Hesiod
This chart is pretty good for initiation, ejoy it
>Moby Dick posting for weeks
>Dune posting for weeks
>Morrison posting for weeks
>Delillo posting for weeks
The fuck is with the absurd similarity in /lit/ newfags' reading habits?
>>8512496
Fuck off, anime degenerate
School started a few weeks ago.
Can the Republic be skipped if one isn't interested in politics? Is there more to the work than just political theory?
It's not politics but political philosophy. And political philosophy is always intertwined with Moral Philosophy and a smidgen of Metaphysics.
>>8512426
He fleshed out the human psyche which Freud took up later
What a coincidence I was getting ready to read this, and I was pondering if the republic by Cicerone is worth reading and how does it compares.
Why is it okay to spoil the classics?
>be at library
>grab a book: 'The Sorrows of Young Werther'
>'I have read many good things about this author, I wonder what this book is about'
>back cover literally tells you the ending
>reading for plot
I fucking hate this too anon.
Sauce on the grill btw?
>>8512408
>reading the back cover
>needing to be told what a book is about
Pleb
What are some good non-fiction books? Preferably not history orientated?
Ey
>>8512374
What subject are you interested in, there are millions of non-fiction books.
The Feynman lectures on Physics (1964)
Acknowledging that it is genre-fiction, can we have a historical fiction of merit thread?
Really enjoyed The Dwarf, The Siege of Krishnapur, The Luck of Barry Lyndon, and The Black Douglas.
Brits or northern Europeans ideally.
>>8512348
I didn't know Tolstoy wrote genre fiction.
>>8512363
He wrote self-help too. Lets not touch on War and Peace, Catch 22, Les Mis though, they are overdiscussed.
>>8512348
Not British or Northern European, since it is an Argentine writing about Renaissance Italy, but Bomarzo by Mujica Lainez is excellent.
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/69759.Bomarzo
It seems to be rather expensive, since the 1969 first printing is the only one in English. (was translated by Gregory Rabassa)
https://www.amazon.com/Bomarzo-novel-Manuel-Mujica-Lainez/dp/0671204068/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1473972079&sr=1-1&keywords=bomarzo
Bolaño recommended it (wrote a review, but I couldnt find it translated) http://resonancias.org/content/read/272/el-escritor-trashumante-roberto-bolano-se-ha-ido-de-nuestro-mundo-cruel-por-agapito-perales/
Not Historical Fiction, but you may like the biographies of Henry Troyat.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Troyat
https://www.amazon.com/Catherine-Great-Henri-Troyat/dp/0452011205/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1473973339&sr=1-1&keywords=henri+troyat+catherine
>>8512372
he published bovels on many russians, also on Tolstoi
https://www.amazon.com/Tolstoy-Henri-Troyat/dp/0802137687/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1473973519&sr=1-1&keywords=henri+troyat+tolstoy
Hello /lit/
Can you recommend some literature to help me understand why life is so objectively shitty? I'm already familiar with some of the essential works from Schopenhauer and Zapffe, and Ligotti is on my queue. I'd like to read Mainlander and Horstmann someday, but unfortunately it might be quite some time before they're translated into English.
Any other essential thinkers? Maybe some works of fiction? Thanks.
>objectively adjective
>>8512288
If you keep reading books like that it will be. Life is what you make of it.
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What Delillo book should I put next into my queue? I just finished White Noise, waiting on Underworld until I finish a few other doorstoppers, and waiting on Zero K until it comes in paperback. So given those constraints.
>>8512251
Libra
Go through his peak in order: White Noise, Libra, Mao II (GOAT), Underworld
If you want more, read End Zone and Cosmopolis.
cosmopolis is imo his best. the prose is so obtuse, and i dig the books ideas more than any of his others, even tho its nothing to dissimilar to delilos usual
Why is literature the only art medium where cooperating is looked down upon? Films are pretty much accepted to be a team effort, musical collaborations are always welcomed, comicbooks/manga are being drawn by several people for speed and efficiency, but books are firmly set in public eye as a solo mission and terms like 'ghost writer' are derogatory. What if I'm an idea guy with no talent for the word, do I not deserve a shot at getting these stories out there?
>>8512249
Because literature is unlike film
>>8512249
>do I not deserve a shot at getting these stories out there?
exactly
>>8512249
>Films are pretty much accepted to be a team effort
Not so fast - the films most praised by "high culture" critics are those with the "strong vision" type of director and absolutely minimal input from anyone else
>musical collaborations are always welcomed
But hardly ever yield quintessential music
>comicbooks/manga are being drawn by several people for speed and efficiency
And those aren't usually recognised as an art form
What are some of the gems of the internet for someone in search of knowldge? The /lit/ sticky is pretty good, and I've heard of stuff like lesswrong.com and rationalwiki, but does /lit/ know of anything else?
/x/
>>8512229
Have you tried the redpill of /r9k/ and /pol/?
>kant btfo
literally who
>>8512227
>Chris has a commanding stature, with a height over 1.80 m
dwarfing kant both mentally AND physically
>>8512227
Who? The solver of everything that's who.