What is the scariest most horrific book, that made you physically cringe.
Some say she's naive, she's a stupid bitch
Some say to forgive, guilty she should die
The beginning of the end begins at birth
Breeding masses of twisted screaming flesh
An example we should make out of theses creators of misfortune
A serious crime that should not be forgiven
The guilty one, innocent she now cries
A life of hell, better off to die
Born without eyes, hands, and half a brain
Being born addicted to cocaine
>>8513178
What... Is this?/
The Girl Next Door
will scar you emotionally
of pretty much destroyed any of these Spoken word poets now a days?
would he dominate spoken world competitions
Of course he would. He would dominate anything to do with poetry.
If he does come back to life at least he'll be right at home in modern cities since he's used to seeing all black
To be fair, spoken poetry competitions tend to be dominated by millenial progressivism
Milton has no chance really
James Joyce thread.
Also, anyone know where I can read the Gabler edition of Ulysses online?
james joyce is the original meme author
stay woke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-ZH-OvbQyg
>>8513147
It's a good album anon, but what does it have to do with Joyce?
Has anyone read À rebours? Is it worth reading? What translation?
>>8513093
>translation
Not for this particular text.
I loved it, but it depends on your taste I guess. Definitely worth a read either way. He's a brilliant author. I preferred the older translation, whichever one has the translation by Havelock Ellis. Just be sure you get an unabridged edition:
http://www.ibiblio.org/eldritch/jkh/rebours.html
>>8513106
Sorry, introduction by Ellis, not translation.
So I read his Notes from the Underground, what a depressing life this man must have had. He may be right, but what is the point of over-analyzing everything in your life to the point you get sick of it? I don't like these kind of books nor do I see what they contribute to literature, it is a depressing story about a depressed man with outstanding writing skills used only for letting his negativity out.
I wonder what he would write about if he grew up patrician.
Great impression of a woman
It's meant to be a humorous reposte to "What is to be Done?" (the novel), which has someone saying he is an egoist and will do whatever he wants, and what he wants to make everyone happy, and he ends with, "Do you hear me, you in your underground hole?" Dostoevsky's character is supposed to be the guy in the underground hole writing a response, saying, "Fuck happiness."
Are translators even human?
For example, I read Don Quixote with Edith Grossman's translation. How does someone even start to translate a work from 1615 with its timely humour and way of speaking?
>>8513039
you gotta live the quixote lifestyle my friend
Because Quixote mostly consists of irony which transcends translations
>He writes in first person
How the fuck do people write in "I"?
I barely have the balls to hide myself in "him"
>>8512986
I write in "I" but it's dishonest as fuck
hows that sound
Don't write about yourself.
>>8512986
stop caring what reddit thinks.
Is the Unabomber's Manifesto worth reading? Looks like it's mostly rhetoric.
>>8512914
it's not long just read it
>>8512914
It's pretty horrible, but it has a few fanboys here who defend it as a work of genius. It's political existentialism mixed with Utopianism and generic anprimism with some shitty political analysis at the beginning to get the braindead interested
>>8512914
Yes. Make sure you read Ship of Fools too.
There's a website called The Electric Typewriter which has famous essays for free. Some are from environmental activists.
Go for it.
Just finished reading pic related, what did I like about /lit/?
Holden Caulfield is a faggot, just like OP, so it was relatable
can't get the phoebe meme out of your head?
>>8513078
Holy..... I want more...
For years now the philosophy of logical positivism has weighed on my mind. On my first confrontation with the philosophy, I naturally formed the objection which I know many of you are ready to supply: logical positivism is self-defeating.
However, I have suspected for a while - against my own will it seems - that this objection is superficial. For instance, logical positivism is able to admit of the usefulness of propositions such as "All squares have four sides." Such propositions are not about things in the world per se, but rather supply definite signs by which we are able to communicate to each other the impressions of our senses. We need these abstractions to determine whether what we sense fits the model proposed by an empirical proposition.
The proposition of logical positivism is summed up by Ayer as "a sentence is factually significant if, and only if, he knows how to verify the proposition which it purports to express - that is, if he knows what observations would lead him, under certain conditions, to accept the proposition as being true, or reject it as being false." This is a proposition which can be compared to geometric or logico-mathematical propositions. Such propositions are not "factually significant," in that they do not propose facts - which are statements about things in the world. Yet they are, as abstractions, and assuming their logical coherency, abstractly significant. Logical positivism is the abstraction of this logical reality concerning abstractions, which is the framework in which the evidence of the senses is interpreted and communicated.
I think a consequence of this interpretation of logical positivism makes it compatible with metaphysics - so long as we consign metaphysics to abstraction on the tendencies of observed reality. For instance, the concept of 'green,' which cannot be instantiated by itself except as the property of a concrete being, appears to qualify as a metaphysical notion, given it is abstracted from being. The same can be applied to such concepts as 'motion' (which cannot exist in itself except as the property of a concrete being), ' final cause,' 'personal identity,' and so on.
What does /lit/ think?
tl;dr I'm a logical positivist, fight me
find peace in the philosophy of pragmatism: things should be believed based on how well they predict results. Planes fly, math works.
Truth in the noumenal sense is entirely another matter.
The historians of future will look back at this post with great astonishment because what they will discover is that it only took one post (a comic, to be exact) to destroy OP's cherished little logical positivism fantasy.
I'll be here when you shed your current identity and facade and adopt something equally ridiculous in its place (but for the love of our Lord Jesus Christ, please don't let it be an Analytic Marxist or a theist that churns out arguments in Quantified Modal Logic for the existence of God ala Plantinga).
>>8512835
I am partial to quietism, although I still usually feel led back to Schopenhauer or Parmenides when I try to work with what is available.
Actually, the likelihood I ascribe to metempsychosis or panpsychism has kept me from suicide, seeing as I'll just wake up again as a different mind (though obviously without the experience of continuity).
But I'm afraid this doesn't help clarify my difficulties with logical positivism.
>>8512843
I suspect you didn't read the post.
OT: did you know Alvin Plantinga is an expert on air conditioners?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nDOxLh6AbQ
Thoughts?
>>8512742
I want to pull Karl's hair while he sucks my cock
>>8512742
It was a struggle, all right.
ITT hack frauds.
>>8513974
How dare you.
He is, dare i say, our guy.
>>8514149
no, all jungians are frauds and must leave
>hear that pic related is a funny read
>read it
>gradually sink into depression along with Yossarian over the pointless madness of it all
its not at all what i expected, but i can't complain
expectation vs reality thrad?
>>8512641
Expected a good thread. Reality served me a shit one
Don't trust Orr man! Its not as happy as it all seems!
>>8512641
It's also funny though.
Hi all I was wondering if anyone else has read the Flashman papers by George Mcdonald Fraiser?
I read up to Flashman and the tiger when i was mid teens and loved them,
Wanted to know from any other Flashers what there favorite Flashman book is? mine in order of favorite is:
>Royal Flash
>Flashman and the redskins
>Flashmans Lady
>Flashman (1st Book)
>Flashman and the great game
>Flash for Freedom!
>Flashman and the angel of the lord
>Flashman and the Dragon
>Flashman and the tiger.
I heard there was also the speedicut Papers and some modern flashman book but i never go around to them, are they worth the time?
Also proper Flasman film WHEN? i know there was the one from the 70s starring the clockwork orange guy but it was really cheesy and didnt have any of the dark themes that make the books great.
>>8512619
bump.
Down to page 10 I go ;_;
seriously, no one read or have an opinion on this?
oh! and i forgot ive also read
>Flashman and the mountain of light
>>8512619
i like royal flash the most too. tried to start a flashman post on here the other day. someone said they thought it looked to british. flasher is literally me.
Do you consider Shakespeare a philosopher?
Nah, not really. Dante, Milton, Tolstoy are authors who were philosophers, Shakespeare in contrast is something more of a commonsensical anti-philosopher, à la Montaigne.
>>8512618
He was too dumb, in addition to not being well read.
>There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Hurr durr, more than in his writings for sure.