What's with all the hardcore determinism on /lit/? The same people who bash science and atheism are the ones who feel the need to reference causality and physics in threads that aren't even about philosophy or science. Is this a reaction to finding out yer freedom is a lie?
my freedom : the noumenal :: my dick : your mom
>The same people who bash science and atheism are the ones who feel the need to reference causality and physics in threads that aren't even about philosophy or science
No they aren't.
>>8508877
How do you know, anon? I admit the same question can be asked of me, but what makes you so sure?
Best books on Babylonian demons/monsters?
>>8508812
I don't know but I'd like to hear. All I have is a copy of Herodotus and he is a little light on the Babylonians.
>>8508834
>pseud can't think of a book most people know about
the correct answer is dear diary, today op was a faggot dEsU
>>8509006
I'm a pseud if I claim to be an authority on Babylonia, which I am not. Upon googling Babylonian demons, all I get is wikipedia entries and various articles, rather than book recommendations. If you have any wisdom I'd be grateful to hear it.
I just listened to a lecture on power and ultimately turning into political-philosophical commentary about Brexit by the boy himself, Slavoj Zizek. It can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtfe4tfOoDM
The takeaway is thatpostideology is the removal of the mask between the ruler and the subordinate, a demystification that stands to depress and destroy the subject more than empower them despite common belief to the contrary.
I then took a smoke break and Pink Floyd was stuck in my head. Putting a few thoughts together, I just wrote this, and I'd like to have a genuine discussion on the concept. As for how this is /lit/ related, this song is a piece of poetry, Slavoj references stories in his own explanation of this and is an author, and y'all can easily reference other literary works as examples for or against (e.g. Ulysses as a piece of literature revealed the specters of modernism, that our hero might be a cuckold within our ideals).
Anyway, queue my short rant:
So you think you can tell? Where are our heroes?
Watergate didn't cool down the heat of the Cold War, the proxy murder-suicide of ideology. It was at this very moment that the power of power came to be known in popular music, though it wouldn't be written about in detail for some time in contemporary philosophy.
The song itself is commonly interpreted to have a dual meaning (or maybe just one meaning tied to sentiments of a past relationship, a fatalism-in-ideal if you will): Roger Waters was caught up in sacrificing his own artistry and individuality for the lifestyle (drugs, sex, and rock 'n' roll) that required him to submit himself to the faced specter behind the music industry, but Roger also wrote in a lament to his 'lost' friend and fellow musician Syd Barrett, the image of the olden times now coated in a dusty layer of legend.
There is a third meaning present, a synthesis of these two more obvious ones: the wastelands of life after ideology, a concept that is now frequently referenced. There exists a crisis of larger identity, an ahistorical void of larger-than-oneself, of belonging, the singularity of individualism. The singularity swept across the nation in the form of political protests against Vietnam or for women's/minority rights, a rabid search for causes that ultimately ended in the powerful still being powerful through the same means they normally used, but this time, even worse, they removed their masks, removing the distance between us and them. This very visible prison we now inhabit is the crushed spirit of man, much opposed to the romanticism and altruism of fighting for a greater cause in a war ("Did you exchange a walk-on part in the war for a lead role in the cage?"). The realization and demystification of it all left the Cold War as a terribly apparent scramble for power.
(cont'd)
>>8508803
(cont'd and final part)
"We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year, / Running over the same old ground. / What have we found? / The same old fears. / Wish you were here."
So we thought we could tell, but the people that were telling us stopped making sense and suddenly we realized that we couldn't tell ourselves much. They revealed themselves to be just as us, lost souls swimming in a fish bowl and nothing's changed except the illusion is gone. We are here, and here's a crisis that used to be concealed, that we're in a hyper-artificial world, this fish bowl, hinging on external actors for survival but usually denying such a thing while the getting was good.
There is a trace of optimism, however, in the sentimentality of the song: friends and family, the very trace of a god in humans, love, can never be demystified. We'll never be able to be told about the joys of love, nor will we be able to tell others about it, and here we have found ourselves a Sun in the Desert of Postideology.
>>8508803
Don't care for leftist nonsense.
My heroes are hitler, Schopenhauer, Elliot Rodger, and breivik
>>8508809
>Don't care for leftist nonsense
>closed off to intellectualism strictly because it presents a different worldview
I'm not a leftist, but Slavoj is a potent culture-critic and philosopher. It says a lot about you that you only addressed the first buzzword in the post though, couldn't even make it to the more advanced memes.
i just bought this and if it sucks im going to be pissed.
how does /lit/ feel about meme books in general, such as bottom's dream, jerusalem, and dhalgren?
have you read any? were you disappointed? discuss.
it's doubtful anyone has finished bottom's dream (in english), much more doubtful that anybody is equipped to comment on it. maybe somebody has finished jerusalem, it sounds like memetrash by an author of picture books for kids.
>>8508784
It's a one-off read that you won't want to read again, but it's an experience on that first try
dhalgren isn't a meme book, and whenever you post it everybody cares even less
Is Terence McKenna /lit/?
>>8508771
As far as complete stoners go, he's quite good. I wouldn't qualify him as a genius, but he's well-read and has interesting insights on drugs, language, culture and technology that's pretty impressive for someone outside of academia.
He's read Joyce and Pynchon. Once told an audience that they were better off reading Mason & Dixon than attending his lecture.
>>8508771
>le leftist weed man
Anyone who listens to him should be force fed redpills
>>8508783
McKenna is one of the biggest redpills you will ever take.
>The world doesn't exist without a knowing subject
What did he mean by this?
From what I understood, he claims that the world we perceive is a representation and exists only in our head. Remove the head and there's no more representation anymore. However, there must still exist something, namely the Will, the Thing-in-itself.
Does he simply restrict "the world" to meaning a representation of the Will? It seems to me that the Will *forms* "the world", but is only seen as representation.
Did I go wrong somewhere?
He's saying that beeing yourself gives you a sense of reality. Without the self there is no reality
>>8508764
He means that when you'll die you'll take the world with you.
You have to be a male to understand.
>It was yrstruly and C and Poor Tony that crewed that day and everything like that. The AM were wicked bright and us a bit sick however we scored our wake ups boosting some items... He say he take his self up to Roy Tony and say him not to mess with
Say him not to mess with? Are you fucking joking? Does David Wallace actually think this is how black people talk?
There's even worse parts than that... what does THAT tell you... I was trying to enjoy his book, but I just cant get past this racism. Luckily enough I still have the receipt, and will be returning this piece of shit with a bit to say to the person that tried to tell me to read this. Fucking awful.
>>8508758
Going to go "crew" with my crew and say fuck your book nigga. Seriously what the fuck
"Hol' up"
>>8508758
david foster wallace is dead my man
> that face when fascists just activated my trap card
>>8508757
Fascism is the right way forward, retard
>>8508802
"Activate it, Felix."
>>8508802
pew pew pew!
>started that fucking good reads challenge
>no longer feel I can read for enjoyment
>all reading feels like cramming
>just want to get one book over with so I can get onto the next book
I can't wait until I finish this stupid fucking challenge. I have two books to go before I finally complete it and never have to touch it again, then reading will actually be easy and relaxing, because I won't feel like I have to read something and cram it down my throat for the sake of completing the stupid challenge anymore.
>metrics on your hobbies
There's a reason goodreads does that and it's to sell more books
>>8508734
do you have any will at all? goddamn
Delete your goodreads account.
Unironically one of the most tedious, boring novels I've ever read.
>>8508588
No one cares, faggot
>that chapter when the ex priest recalls the first time he met the judge
>>8508596
riveting contribution
I unironically view this as one of the most powerful and deeply personal books every written
i kek'd
>>8508564
Fuckin pleb shit, you'd find a copy in almost every household.
>he loves Pynchon
>he lauds V.
>he hasnt read Stone Junction
Whats your excuse, /lit/?
>>8508545
What's the connection between Pynchon and this book, besides the introduction?
>>8508567
Post modern. Zany characters. Length of the book. Humorous but great prose.
>>8508612
Ok cool, I think I'll check it out. You don't have to be such a dick about it though.
I unironically view this as one of the greatest science fiction books ever written.
Too bad you didn't expound in a relevant thread, someone could have cared.
Considering that an entire religion came from it (despite none of its contents being factual), I'd say it was a pretty successful series.
anyone here working as a technical writer? ill be starting next month, if it was good enough for The Pinecone, its good enough for me
>>8508486
Wow, I want her tits in my ass
>>8508486
It's a miserable job. I worked as a technical writer for Freightliner for about two years and it was wretched.
>>8508522
what was wrong with it? what are you working now?
Favorite Latin American literature thread
>>8508484
#100 is one of my favorite books ever. I read death foretold but did not enjoy it alot. Where 2 go next with Gabo?
>>8508503
Love In The Time Of Cholera I suppose
>>8508503
ive heard that Love in the Time of Cholera is pretty good.