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Anyone on here ever bought a box of books from Books By The Foot? How was your experience, and what did you get?

If you don't know what it is, it's this company that sends you a box of books for a flat rate: it's $16.99 for genre fiction shit, but you can choose other subjects like 'classics,' and 'sci-fi' for $13 extra. Is this a good idea to spend some pocket money on? $29 + S&H sounds like a pretty good deal for a box that contains ~75 books.

http://www.booksbythefoot.com/shop/pc/Boxed-Books-by-Subject-17p150.htm
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What's he going to do when the books start falling off?
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That looks like a fire hazard
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Sounds fun. The unboxing would make for a good thread.

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post yfw you're reading a dankass book
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Your thread is cancer and you should feel bad.
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Yes? No? What should I read in preparation?
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>>8728409

poe.
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>>8728409
freud
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Can someone tell me what is that book supposed to be about.

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this is the greatest living old white male writer of all time.

prove me wrong. protip. you aren't
.
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>>8728314
Old, white, and male are implied in greatness
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>>8728314
can't prove you wrong because I can't find a copy
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>>8728314
I'd say that he's one third of a trinity balanced out by Gene Wolfe and William H. Gass.

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A formless and dull mass of phony folklore, a cold pudding of a book. Conventional and drab, redeemed from utter insipidity only by infrequent snatches of heavenly intonations. Detest it. A cancerous growth of fancy word-tissue hardly redeems the dreadful joviality of the folklore and the easy, too easy, allegory. Indifferent to it, as to all regional literature written in dialect. A tragic failure and a frightful bore.
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That's what he said about FW right?
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>>8728311
It was also bawdy, vulgar, and occasionally hilarious.
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>>8728322
Nabokov on Finnegans wake I think (if not that, ulysses)

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so someone like Ta Nehisi Coates or Teju Cole are more intelligent than Einstein in terms of pure brainpower
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this is dumb, if you're working in a sweatshop chances are you aren't even educated. unless there are will hunting-tier sweatshop workers out there idk
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>>8728295
Yep, Einstein is actually pretty stupid compared to the many geniuses of our time.

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>One week ago
Change will never come through politics, politics is the mindkiller, the Alt-Right is hopelessly democratic
>Now
Praise Trump, the Cathedral is dead!
Did we beak him, /lit/?
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where do you see him praising trump?
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>>8728260
How stupid would someone have to be to think trump will cause any meaningful change
He was pandering hard as hell during the election and now he's gonna basically become a liberal a la clinton
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>>8728273
POLITICIANS CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THESE LIES!

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ITT: Gente a la que Trump echaría AKA hispanoparlantes

Compartamos nuestros textos, nuestras pequeñas obras. Cosas que queramos compartir en /lit/.

Adelante amigos.
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Quién
Quién se olvide de mí, suspiraré su nombre
En medio del ruido inmaculado, se escuchará y seré escuchado
Con mis ruinas, latentes en el suelo que yace bajo mi silueta de hambre
Bajo el tumulto de rosas quemadas, que en mis manos han sido manchadas
Sangre viva, sangre abandonada en las palabras mías
A palabras tuyas, semblante fervor al final de mis días
Vuelan violentos los colosos sórdidos, nuestras voces hastías
Soñolientas con el trazo de las brasas frías
Al final, sabrán olvidar el sonido, rendir al cántico
Profetizarse leves en el olvido, subir el ático
Volverse el arpa melodiosa que cuenta la hora
Nocturna en la frontera del sueño y la constelación de espada
Diurna en el calor que extingue la piel descarnada.

Quien dice que la selva no es memoria, recordaré su lluvia
Ebrio en el rocío que me brindará las mentiras
Ávido el sentimiento de las luces que fluyan
En mis venas, atiborradas de tinta muertas en iras
Tanto escribir, tanto sentir los dioses que no he de borrar
Tanto domar el fuego, separarlo del mar
De intoxicarse en el humo, tan propio del aire


Mata suspiro y vive desaire
Contacto y delirio al respirar el abismo
Estrellarse al fondo y besar las rocas que aguarden mi llegada
Sólo en la cima que me detuvo era yo mismo
En el crimen y la nostalgia que me libera
En el perdón y abrazo que me condena


Quien lea mis dedos en las teclas del piano, guardará mi sinfonía
El ritmo inerte que caracteriza mi flor espía
Hoy, mira dentro, escucha el eco de los ojos blancos
Bailan al ruido tranquilo y melodía alborotada
Acordes disparan a los sordos oídos de horizontes anchos
Germinan, sufren el mustio recibir de la ardiente tonada
Hipnotiza la playa y recibe la brisa
Como olas acordes que azotan a damas de pies caídos
Roba mi espíritu sin prisa
Roba mi sendero y me envuelve en la armonía de sus gemidos
Desnuda, desnudo
Desnudo mi corazón, desnudas sus garras
Indefenso.
Quien pise mi tumba, bailaré en la suya
Muerto estaré yo y el día que me acabe
El tiempo que no veré será mío
El azar, un vehículo
Partir indiferente de la tierra
Que es mi patria y que me aplasta
Mi hogar y el espejo
Me encierra y en éste soy libre
Vicisitudes serán rostros ajenos
Incertidumbre, la llama que apague el libro
Con la pluma que escribo y pierdo mis ideas
Cerraré el baúl
Enterraré la llave.
Ya postee otro poema en otro hilo, y no fue bien recibido. Creo que éste es el mejor poema que tengo (aunque sea uno de los que menos me haya tomado tiempo). Si me dan una reseña y uno que otro consejo, estaré muy agradecido.
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>>8728289

Te diré lo que pueda ya que no soy ningún profesional ni ningún gran leído ni nada de eso.

Me parece que sufre de lo que sufren algunos escritos míos también en algunas ocasiones, de ser demasiado abstracto y fallar al conseguir cierta coherencia que enganche al espectador en una retahíla de versos que lo vayan desgarrando (o animando o, simplemente, emocionando) con el paso de las letras.

No obstante, me parece que tiene virtud en cuanto a la elección de las palabras, los sentimientos en momentos concretos, cierta ambición de querer jugar con la estructura poética.

No sé porque los otros habrán sido mal recibidos, quizá alguien más profesional habrá visto más errores o quizá no ha conectado y punto, pero no me parece que lo que haces carezca de la suficiente fuerza como para que no le dediques más tiempo, ganas, inspiración y trabajo.
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>>8728328
Pues el otro que postee hace poco fue uno que recuerdo haber escrito por escribir. Yo sé que eso no es correcto, pero debía quitarme esa ansiedad de no haber escrito en varios días. Además, no parezco trabajar bien en el formato de estrofas de 4 versos, como estaba estructurado ése poema. Puedes verlo en el ultimo poetry critique thread.

Aún soy un novato en la poesía y trato de leer la mayor cantidad de poesía de diversos autores como me sea posible, para asimilar éste asunto de los poemas

>open The Grapes of Wrath ebook
>ctrl-f "squat"
>77 results
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>>8728220
Can you ctrl-f for LIGHTWEIGHT BABY[\spoiler]
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Still not as many as in the biography I wrote about your mum
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>open Stoner e-book
>ctrl+f "dank af"
>420 results

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Is fantasy and science fiction literature?
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>>8728064

some is of course /thread next
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*sigh*
in everyone genre of fiction you can find things that are literature (dune, do androids dream of electric sheep) but that doesn't mean that the genre as a whole is literature.

A single book can of course be literature, asking if a setting can be literature is nonsensical
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>>8728064
inventing new meanings for words to imply prestige is something pretentious people do

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An idea came to me recently while reading Thinking Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman. TL;DR it's a book about heuristics and cognitive biases in decision making, that sums up over 30 years worth of psychological research. Daniel Kahneman is a famous researcher in that field, and he even won a Nobel prize in economy (there's no Nobel prize in psychology, so us shrinks gotta keep stealing prizes from other fields) for figuring out the precise issues with rational-choice model in economy and correcting it (has mostly to do with loss aversion).

One of the most crucial ideas that the book keeps coming back to over and over again is the two-system model of mind. Kahneman posits that human cognition is governed by two semi-independent systems, System 1 & System 2. System 1 is a fast, automatic, associative "mind" that works on the basis of heuristics (mental shortcuts), and is pretty much always active. This is the system that most people use, for example, when deciding which political candidate to choose - instead of using some algorithm that would take into account policies, consistency of opinion, past behaviour, etc..., they substitute the question of: "who is the better candidate for the position" with: "which candidate do I like more" and then work out that one and use the answer for the first one as well (substitution heuristic). System 2 on the other hand is the rational, logical, step-by-step "mind" that's very lazy and is on average used very rarely. We use System 2 for example when working out advanced mathematical problems (i.e. algebra).

Anyway, the idea that came to me was that keeping Kahneman's two-system model in mind (pardon the pun), the platonic Dialogues can be seen as a struggle between the System 2 and System 1. Socrates is in a way an exemplar of the System 2 - he tries to engage his interlocutors in dialectic, and through it break down every single problem into small individual claims that can be examined, and from there on build up a hierarchy of true claims that will result in a useful true statement. Socrates' interlocutors on the other hand, and especially Sophists, embody in their thinking the System 1 - they are unwilling to engage in dialectic because they find it annoying and tiring (compare the inherent laziness of System 2) and they'd rather engage in behaviour that favours the System 1, such as the oration of long-winded speeches.

What do you think about this?
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Duh
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Why do you badmouth the sophists?

Socrates probably had autism anyways.
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>TL;DR
>wall of text
Aint reading

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OK, /lit/, I am not an native English speaker, but isn't the expression "holier-than-thou" grammatically wrong?

"Thou" is for the subject and "thee" for the object. Modern English doesn't really make the distinction anymore, but shouldn't it still be "holier-than-thee"?

Here are a few examples of its usage:

"After all, it is such a beastly business sticking one’s holier-than-thou nose into other people’s affairs." (Booksie)

“'Veggie-gate' played directly into fears that holier-than-thou greenies just want to seize everybody’s steak knives." (The Economist)

"Why don’t the holier-than-thou anti-smoking zealots put as much energy into highlighting the dangers of alcohol as they do cigarettes?" (Los Angeles Times)

In the above excerpts, the expression serves as an adjective to describe a subject as being ironically more righteous than the common man. So, it should be understood as "[subject] is holier than [object]", right? So, "thee" should prevail, right?

What am I missing?
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Comparatives like "than" usually place both nouns in the same status and therefore the same case

e.g. "Neither he nor I could have forseen this"

But "than" is often used prepositionally, especially colloquially, and prepositions DO alter the case

https://motivatedgrammar.wordpress.com/2012/06/13/than-i-and-than-me/
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>>8727944
It's just a stupid idiomatic phrase that nobody should be using anyway
>X person has opinion on moral issue
>Everyone who likes said questionably good thing gets angry but have no legitimate arguments to defend themselves with
>"Bbbbut X is just being p r e t e n s h u s !"
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>>8727944
> I am holier than thou
Correct; both pronouns are in the nominative.

> I am holier than thee
Incorrect. One is nominative, the other is oblique. The verb 'is' does not take an object.

Can any of you learned anons point me in the direction of some resources for getting a handle on Herr Marx?

I lack the patience to try to understand him directly, call me a pleb all you want but slogging through dense philosophy that never reiterates itself doesn't aid my understanding of the material.
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>>8727909
Just watch lectures on youtube if your too adhd for reading. Hint: ten minutes on marx type videos aren't what you should be looking for
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>>8727933
>too adhd for reading
More like too busy with work + grad program + gf + reading I enjoy
I can't waste months trying to even grasp what the arguments even are, let alone branch off to read up on the theories that influenced Marx. I understand that it's a hard book to summarize but there have to have been some efforts made in the last 150 yrs that hold academic water.
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>>8727909
tysons text on critical theory today. the marx chapter makes it so fucking clear. it makes you wonder why you ever had a problem with it.

that being said, its a college book so it aint gonna be cheap even used. maybe like $30

but the whole book is a great intro for all fields of critical theory. its something i refer to often

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Is it just this translation or is everyone in this book supposed to come off as a complete spaz?
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Is this your first Dostoevsky book?
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>from the writer of Notes from Underground, about a true /r9k/ level robot

Yes, anon, they're spazzes. That's what Dostoyevsky was good at writing.
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>>8727906

>He read P&V

Why is American literature so bad and soulless? I think the only exception comes from writers who lived in the South. Anyone from the East or West coast is fucking shit and has absolutely nothing to say to anyone, except for the degenerate western youth. The best writer to come out from the US in the XXth century was actually a Russian. You guys ought to be ashamed of yourselves.
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>>8727883
t. Swedish Academy of Literary Trannycucks
t. S.A.L.T.
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>all of American literature
How'd you read it all?
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Melville alone defeats your argument

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