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What the fuck is the point of """"""poetry"""""" that doesn't follow rhyme and meter?
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so ethnic people can participate
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>>8732743
this
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Rhyme is the invention of a barbarous age.
Don't fall for it, meter is far more important.

I want to read a good english-language translation of Ovid's Metamorphoses. Ezra Pound said Arthur Golding's translation was one of the finest books in the English language, but I but I was wondering which translations you folks would recommend, as I know there have been many translations since Golding's in the 16th century.
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lol... reading Ovid in english... if you lack the discipline or intelligence to read the greatest work of literature in its most important language, you might as well stop reading, move to Kentucky, buying your books, food, and clothing at Wal Mart, buy a bb gun, paint it black, rob some old women for their pain pills, become an oxycodone addict, and kill yourself. Just learn latin—it's not that hard—and read Ovid, Horace, Cicero, Cato, Martial; learn french and read Montaigne and Rousseau; learn german and read Rilke, Goethe, Schiller, Schopenhauer, Walser, Bernhard, Musil, Kafka, Bernhard, and Walser. Take up farming.
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Golding and Melville are best.
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>>8732710
nice german propaganda

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For all the shit we talk about Slam Poetry, it's the only literary movement that gained any attention in the 21st Century.
What have you done today to fix this?
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>>8732682
LOL I HATE LIBERALS AND WOMEN
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>performance required to be even moderately worth reading

Not /lit/.
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>>8732682
I am a watchman of the literary guard. I contributed tip top shitposts on /lit/, garnering lots of (You)'s and contributing the little beacons of joy that uphold interest in true literature. Slam poetry doesn't have the luxury of my kin; it's doomed to be an ephemeral fad, it's whole duration on this Earth trapped between the pathetic worlds of high brow rap and low brow poetry.

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Why does /lit/ hate comics again?

>inb4 dude capeshit lmao
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>>8732672
pretension
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>>8732676
Is it pretending if its actually better?
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>>8732676
And most of the boards /lit/ likes aren't pretentious bullshit with no meaning? *coughInfiniteJestcough*

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How can one man be so brilliant?
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>>8732604
Ask plebbit. they love him.

WE LOVE PYNCHON, fuck this HACK
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Doestyoentrylevel? Op must be female
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>>8732611
hehe women are simply dumber than men.

bet OP voted for Hillary and hates whiteness

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My favourite book, can i have recommendations
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>>8732582
literally my least favorite book.
Try Player Piano by Vonnegut. I thought it was naïve idealist shite also, so you'd probably like it.
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>>8732603
Why is it your least fav?
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>>8732617
Well i don't purposefully go out and read bad shit, but it was just awful, awful writing.
the characters were flat self-fulfillment dolls in Huxley's utopian dollhouse being manipulated by his clumsy hands. Each represented an ideology far too obviously. The protagonist literally cried about snakes AFTER the fact while being coddled by a little girl in a stilted effort to teach us how to get over our fears. And I'm not politically inclined but holy shit the hyper-liberal ideology. I could only imagine what all those drugs did to Huxley's head. His confidence in his knowledge of humanity and society far outweighed his actual knowledge of such. Everything in the book was an apparatus to communicate his ideals, there was little to no actual literary merit. It was just bad.

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What's some lit where the main character is pregnant?
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>female main characters
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>>8732570
ur mum's diary after i visit her tomoz desu I will watch her be impaled and impregnated by a big black bull
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>>8732570
Don't know this exact setup but Nutshell by Ian McEwan is written from the perspective of a foetus if that interests you

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It took me 6 months to write a poetry book. So, I am recently distributing it free on kindle. I hope you will love it. Link on second comment.
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>>8732500
https://www.amazon.com/Man-Who-Saw-Angel-ebook/dp/B01LYTOYFS/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
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>>8732500
From what I see it looks very good, quantity and quality is always impressive, much kudos!

What is the first letter of your first name (to see if I might know you)?
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>>8732500
Flipped through it. Seems okay, nothing spectacular. Probably read it seriously tomorrow. If I like I'll drop you a review.

Good luck.

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I make it a point to finish books that I start, but I'm 150 pages into this thing and my god it sucks my cock. I'm seriously considering dropping it.

I hate the 50's. I hate milkshakes, and 'bop', and 'digging' and 'jalopies' and 'necking'. Makes me puke a little in my mouth. I fucking hate this god damn book, and I hate Jack Kerouac.

Seriously, why the fuck is this thing recommended so much? The prose is shit. The plot is boring. Does it get better during the second half, or am I missing something here?

Are there any better books out there about wanderers/travellers that are more insightful than the one written by this braindead boomer baby? Should I finish the fucking thing?
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>>8732499
If you didn't get the original scroll you fucked up
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>>8732499
I dropped it at about that point. It was such a chore, it took me a week to get that far in because I was avoiding it. I regret nothing.
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>>8732499
JUst read the road

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like we always harp on the colonists and what they did to the Native Indians

yet we don't present the same level of demonization to say Genghis Khan, Alexander the Great, Tariq ibn-Ziyad, ..
Abdul Rahman Al Ghafiqi


What is Imperalism only bad when its done by Europeans

or do we excuse Feudalistic conquerors?
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>>8732492
>le /pol/ guy who posts 'aboriginals are subhuman' threads with that exact picture each time
>we always harp on the colonists
>we

Nice try

Now fuck off back to your containment board
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>>8732568
Abos objectively aren't human
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If you read Montesquieu's Spirit of the Laws, you would understand what makes Alexander a better conqueror. You would also understand that even the best conqueror is still blameable as that kind of international aggression is unjustifiable.
Alternatively, if you read Herodotus, you would see how destructive internally and externally wanton conquering is. You would see how large becomes small and satraps are not sustainable.

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Where should I start with his work?
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I've not read any of his major works but his short stories are very good and accessible, I particularly like The Bear.
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>>8732438
I never got how you could dress like that in fucking Mississippi before air conditioning in homes was common.

No wonder he was an alcoholic.
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>>8732775
He was dressed up to have his picture taken.
He famously lounged around in boxers and sock garters.

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Explain why this isn't your favorite book.
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Dropped 1/4 way in out of sheer boredom. What's the attraction, genuinely curious?
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>>8732398
I can't read English
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Well first of all:
>Boring

And outside of that, this book isn't really something I would consider smart.
Its a book that is written in a way where everything makes the point it is supposed to make, and a 12 year old can understand all of the points if they don't fall asleep trying to read this shit.

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What are the most profound novels that you've read? i.e. novels that made you feel like you are reading something important. I've recently been feeling kind of disallusioned by the novels I've been reading, because they all seem to be relatively petty, like ultimately a form of slightly intellectual entertainment.
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>>8732383
>disallusioned
Finnegans Wake
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>>8732387
BRAVO
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>>8732387
fugggg
*disillusioned

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About to read this.

What to expect?
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Expect to laugh, and smile, and cry that you will never write something as fantastic.
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>>8732280

It's single handily the reason why post-modernism was created and why FW was the only thing left for Joyce to write.

You'll see once you read the book. It's everything a novel should be, everything a novel should have in it, from the beginning of written language to the death of mankind.

Why did so many authors in post-modernism get whacky, start doing even weirder shit? Because they were looking for something, anything, that Ulysses didn't have that would catch on and ultimately they failed. Everyone has failed. Every book after this one is missing a piece - a piece that this book founded.

It's simply everything. Nothing will ever top it. The human spirit, the words, the language, the stories simply do not exist, cannot exist. Ulysses is and end all book. It is, and was, and forever will be the perfect novel.

Anyone who reads it realizes nothing more can be done to improve literature. Therefore, as the Post-Modernists did, and as culture is doing today, the only thing left for art is to destroy art. To dismantle every piece of structure the human-race has been founded on until the only thing that is left is a cesspool of shit that one cannot see their reflection in, and that, that there, is truly hell.

Good luck. Because after this book you'll literally see the repetitive nature in literature. You will see every chance (and failure) at recapturing even the slimmest, most faint piece of Ulysses.
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>>8732316
Is this a pasta?

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/lit/erally have never read one
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+1 for Nathaniel Branden
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I'm about half way through with How to Win Friends and Influence People, it's a good book but can sometimes be a bit too heavy with the anecdotes. It's the first self improvement book I've ever read and I want to continue exploring the medium.

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