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Describe a portion of your fictional world's mythology, make papa Tolkien proud.

Lovecraftheads also weclome.
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there are two opposing forces.

the first disguises itself as an intelligence agency based in Brussels. very few people know that about one-third of the operatives are basic telepaths, or that the man who runs this agency has the psychic ability to convince people to do what he tells them to. he is, of course, the richest and most powerful man on Earth, but is a borderline sociopath, because he has never been denied anything he wants.

the second force is less powerful, more amorphous, and is largely represented by a loose "Cell network" of brilliant researchers who have been keeping some of their discoveries to themselves. building on these discoveries, they have attained some almost magical abilities in some fields - biochemistry, fabrication, and computer design.

the agency has only recently learned of the existence of the cell network, and seeks to obtain their research. the cell network has only just learned of the existence of the agency, and as a true hive mind, has no desires beyond survival; as such they haven't formed a plan. but they have the means.
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>>8760176
Not sure if this counts as mythology, but one of my stories is about a hermit who tries to find the perfect place to live by looking for the brightest spot in the sky. His thinking is that since city lights block out the stars, wherever you can see the stars the brightest must be the most isolated in the world. But its more of his own mystical belief than an actual reality in the story.

Still trying to make it work right tho
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>>8760176
>lovecraftheads also welcome
thanks anon.

there are several different "horizons" or planes of existence. earth's horizon's beginning is yet unknown. all that populate the earth are colossal beings the size of mountains. for a time these beings were all that populated earth. until a being humanity calls "mother" gave birth to 6 winged humans. these would become the gods that humanity would pray to for thousands of years to come. they are also thought to be the ancestors of humans.

ive got a bit more but i might change some things or scrap it completely.

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How do you deal with the fact that books are for nerds?

I'm an avid reader and 27. This fall I held a girls hand for the first time. When she asked what my hobbies are I said I liked books and she withdrew her hand from my sweaty palms.
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>>8759986
Kys, virgin.
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Must be an American thing
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>tfw reading pic related and is not hard at all
>tfw philosophy erudite
Im going for PotS next boiiii
who /ubermensch/ here?
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>>8759946
explain how temporality and historicity are related
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>>8759946
>übermensch
>needs validation from strangers online
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>>8759946
reading is for losers and nerds, we all know and accept that.

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What are some things you've learned exclusively through reading fiction?
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>>8759928
>reading fiction to 'learn'
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>>8759928
That a tanner gets the name of his profession from his use of tannic acid.
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Greek Gods are assholes

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Blood Meridian is the result of a failed, uneducated, unemployed old man with a niche for using gore as a selling point. It's roughly on the same level as formula romance/crime stories.

An uneducated reader (you're 15, you're uneducated, it's not an insult) looks at McCarthy and see's a book that carries you, shocks you, but ultimately bores you 90% of the time especially since relating modern books to used up biblical allegory is just BORING and TIRED.

McCarthy has done an incredible thing though. He has tricked people into thinking that he didn't use a ripped up thesaurus while living with cockroaches in a shaggy motel off some roadside truckstop hooker hang up.

His idea of editing is taking proper prose and then cutting it up, removing key words, and throwing in a six syllable word that means "taking a shit against a tree".

He is the equivalent of a magician in literature. He dazzles people who have no real interest of understanding what it takes to be a magician.

Lastly, the whole idea of "show, don't tell" has been translated by McCarthy into, "don't tell anything, bible reference, remove a word, look at the thesaurus, rip off someone else's stories with a weak copyright, add gore, publish".

He has no real creativity. He's a bad, homemade, poverty re-press of a great vinyl. It's a true abomination.
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>>8759927
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>>8759927

It's not that gory tho just violent
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>>8759927
You haven't read Blood Meridian, and you barely have the reading comprehension to regurgitate whichever meme reviews you've read of it.

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Can somebody honestly, without being a pretentious cuck about it, explain the objective value of poetry? I've done a research and I still don't get it, at all. The value of prose is easy to see, for it concerns itself with narrative structures, precise, cerebral ideas, and setting the scene. Sure, some poetry does it too, but 99% of it is about feels, abstract ideas, short, meaningless tidbits, or whatever it's author had for breakfast that morning. I've read the analysis of the most celebrated poems and the arguments for its value boil down to
>look at that beautifully constructed rhythm/meter/alliteration/something equally asinine, isn't it amazing! The way the author breaks the line here and not there blows my mind!
>wanking over metaphors/similes/metonyms/critics own brain aneurysm, all the things done much better in a strong prose
So this is it? I'm just supposed to appreciate a poetic stanza for being written kinda neatly? There isn't much to it, no memorable, deep characters, no heartbreaking stories, or metaphysical implications, just a bunch of words about nothing in particular, sewn together in a somewhat cool fashion. The apotheosis of this shit is so called 'pattern poetry', in which you're meant to enjoy a SHAPE of a poem. Fucking hell.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not against words being strung in a neat way if that rubs your fancy, but isn't it kind of childish, and unnecessary?
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I think there are a lot of things in human life and emotion that are exceedingly hard to articulate, and I've always assumed that poetry was an attempt to articulate such things in an indirect way. The chicken-clucking that usually happens AROUND poetry is a mystery to me though.

The best poems for me, personally, are the ones that manage to convey ideas without stating them overtly, and communicating the most information in the smallest space. The first poem that comes to mind here is Percy Bysshe Shelley's Ozymandias.
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>>8759915
>objective value
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>>8759915
>without being a pretentious cuck about it.

You first.

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Don't deterministic arguments fall apart at the simplest free-will arguments? I mean, come on- they're all so much more convoluted than just 'we can choose'. They're so complex and convoluted compared to the one assumption that we have the power to choose that they have to violate Occam's Razor.
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"they have to violate Occam's Razor"
is it they who have violated it?
if i ask you 'what is 1+1' is the simpler answer '2' or 'whatever it so chooses'
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>>8759795
what? deterministic arguement very simple. present state of universe is the inevitable result of the previous discrete state. how can you refute that? nothing arises from nothing.
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>>8759844
>nothing arises from nothing.
Except, you know, the Universe

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Post your favourite audio-books, what you're listening to now, what you plan on listening to, recommendations or anything else about audio books.
>Favourite - Harry Potter series read by Jim Dale Enhanced
>Listening to now - A Song of Ice and Fire: A Feast for Crows read by Roy Dotrice
>Also - The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring read by Rob Inglis
>Planning - From the Earth to the Moon read by Jim Killavey (after I finish the Lord of the Rings series.)
>Would recommend- Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy series read by Martin Freeman
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Gandalf reading the Odyssey is god tier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgB9vxYT9kw&list=PLO4w6YrRB31BTAqDnTClVNsClUh6cVG6i
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The Martian narrator is fantastic.
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>>8759755
>Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy series read by Martin Freeman
Why is that a thing? It's actually real guys.

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>a real page-turner
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I hate that. Literally any book in existence requires the act of page-turning to progress through it.
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>>8759628
do you have autism by any chance?
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>>8759628
see >>8759631

fuck you shithead

Are you giving anyone any books for Christmas?

I think it is usually the worst thing to give someone, unless you really know them very well, or if they're the kind of person who reads anything and many books a month.
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My sister gets a book because she turned me onto literature. Also she's my sister so I know what she'll like.

Dad gets a book because he turned me on to mid-century sci-fi. That one is harder because he has read most of it already.

Best friend gets a book because he is a pleb and needs to fix his shit before he gets old and dies. What book should I give him?
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>>8759599
The Fault in Our Stars
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>>8759604
I loved Looking for Alaska so I might do that

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"Under their dropped lids his eyes found the tiny bow of the leather headband inside his high grade ha."

Why is it "a high grade ha" and not a high grade hat? My lecturer smugly said there was a hidden meaning but didn't go on to say what it was...
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>>8759563
Here it is in context:

>In Westland row he halted before the window of the Belfast and Oriental Tea Company and read the legends of leadpapered packets: choice blend, finest quality, family tea. Rather warm. Tea. Must get some from Tom Kernan. Couldn’t ask him at a funeral, though. While his eyes still read blandly he took off his hat quietly inhaling his hairoil and sent his right hand with slow grace over his brow and hair. Very warm morning. Under their dropped lids his eyes found the tiny bow of the leather headband inside his high grade ha. Just there. His right hand came down into the bowl of his hat. His fingers found quickly a card behind the headband and transferred it to his waistcoat pocket.
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>>8759593
>>8759563
I'm stumped and can only think of pleb interpretations.
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>>8759659
I have one now.
http://www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/religion/ha.htm

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We should change the text ''No new posts'' to pic related on /lit/.
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/lit/ posts are the best poetry that I have ever witnessed
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reddit tier
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>>8759705
this, 4chan is for big boys

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>I'll start with V for Vendetta.
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>>8759547
Wrong board.
You want /co/
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The only replies you'll get are Alan Moore, and for good reason
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>comics
>good

fuck off

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So I read this and kind of hated it, what did I miss?

Steinbeck general i guess
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>>8759515
Why'd you hate it?
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>>8759515
WHY DON'T YOU ELABORATE ON WHY YOU 'HATED' IT, YOU FUCKING DENSE CUNT
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I'm in Salinas right now and can't see a single reason why you didn't like the countless pages of descriptive California Central Coast landscape passages

I know this has been memed to death, but I never paid much attention to these sort of threads before. I've just bought these books for 10 bucks (the whole bunch). The translation is from Garnet. Is it any good? Have I been memed?
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>>8759500
It's fine

The covers are horrendous, though
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>>8759504
I don't know, I find them kek inducing for some reason.
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>>8759504
I choose to believe that those covers are on a very deep layer of post-modern irony.
I mean, no one could seriously put those kinds of covers on a book...right?

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