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Give me books with theme of existential despair
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My diary desu.
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>>8834151
link to OP article? sounds legit desu

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Is philosophy, particularly of the metaphysical sort, meaningful or useful? For example, how can Idealism or Dialectics be applied in a meaningful manner?

How would you respond to someone who is skeptical of the usefulness or realistic application of thought such as Kant? or Heidegger? Is it really just a bunch of mental circle-jerk mumbo-jumbo?
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Hello? Is anyone there?
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>>8834145
cognitively meaningful? no; any other type of meaning? sure
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Metaphysics is the first philosophy, the basis of all other philosophical and scientific inquiry.
If you don't understand metaphysics, you don't know what the assumptions and basis for any of your thoughts are.
Metaphysics are explanations and interpretations of the world around us.

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>this exists
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>>8834114
so does your virginity
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why does /lit/ never talk about the famous five or the secret seven?
when i went to school everyone collected them, they sold them in corner shops in big stacks
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Well, it exists, but it's a modern spoof by Bruno Vincent, who's written a bunch of them.

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>Spend your entire life being praised by plebeians for having boring cliche opinions about Islam and Determinism
>Try to obtain a level of respect within the academic community by publishing a book on morality
>Fail to even overcome a man over 250 years before
>Instead of forming an argument, you ignore him entirely

Is this the typical life of a stemtard that tries to go into philosophy?
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Who's a man
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>>8834159
Hume presumably
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>>8834095

>boring cliche opinions about Islam and Determinism

Boring, cliche and yet nonetheless correct.

He won fame by telling the truth.

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Is this guy of serious literary merit?

I keep seeing his name thrown around
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he writes pretty good novels

people hate him because he's the face of american literary fiction when he's not actually the best, but he's fine
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>>8834047
Who is fhe best?
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He's good. He writes very good, very realistic characters. People here shit on him tho

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>Once you label me you negate me

What did he mean hy this?
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he got called "fag" a lot
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He understood that gender is a spectrum
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I'm an irrationalist weenie who can't handle the GWF "Große Weiße Flinte" Hegel.

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So what were the best books published in 2016?
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>>8833934
nobody reads here.
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>>8834454
>implying Jordan Peterson is not a fascist
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This is honestly one of the better threads on /lit/ rn

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When I heard the learn’d astronomer;
When the proofs, the figures, were ranged in columns before me;
When I was shown the charts and the diagrams, to add, divide, and measure them;
When I, sitting, heard the astronomer, where he lectured with much applause in the lecture-room,
How soon, unaccountable, I became tired and sick;
Till rising and gliding out, I wander’d off by myself,
In the mystical moist night-air, and from time to time,
Look’d up in perfect silence at the stars.

> anyone got anything cool to say about this?
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Yes it means he was too stupid to understand the science
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>>8833855
pretty much this

it's pure sour grapes/ressentiment/slave morality
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The supposed learn'd academic is often incapable of understanding the divine.

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>age
>native language
>5 favorite books
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>English
>Russian, Spanish, Spanish, Polish, English
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1 21
2 English
3 Moby-Dick
Dr. Zhivago
The Name of the Rose
Don Kihot
Les Misérables
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>>8833822
>18
>English
>Karamazov, Lord of the Rings, Siddhartha, The Cannibal, Leviathan

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How do we determine quality if not by establishing what is the most enjoyable to the greatest amount of people?

It seems like every attempt at defining a cultural elite with more of a say in what constitutes good art is rather arbitrary.
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>>8833697

We define it by masterful use of literary techniques and insight into the human condition. Yes, that's a bit of a vague definition, but it's not meant to be a checklist.

What's enjoyable to most people always changes depending on marketing trends, and what's considered pop-lit of one generation rarely survives its popularity to the next.
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>>8833740
>What's enjoyable to most people always changes depending on marketing trends, and what's considered pop-lit of one generation rarely survives its popularity to the next.
That's a good point. Couldn't we say that on that basis the classics actually are the most enjoyable to the greatest amount of people, because they remain enjoyable throughout the years?
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>>8833697
Perhaps it only seems arbitrary if you haven't studied literature, but just pretend you have because you've read meme books on your own. There are elements of chance in fame/recognition, but at the end of the day, Fifty Shades of Grey is objectively shit compared to anything by a skillful author. We don't delude ourselves that the average person is the smartest or most educated (otherwise, they wouldn't be average), so why pretend their taste is the best measure?

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Can we rap about the concept of the "Collapse of Language" for a second?
I hear this brought up by intellectuals, and in connection with other concepts but I don't exactly understand what it means. Is anyone very familiar with what people are exactly saying leads to the collapse of language/meaning?

Makeshift Swahili https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoyVH7xA6IE
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the second result on Google when I search for this is a NYT article related to Trump and his future presidency so I came to you guys instead
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>>8833659
tower of babel was round fuck is this
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>>8833659
>can we talk about a This Heat song?
No. Go back to your underage poser music website, faggot.

>>>/mu/

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I'm in my third year of uni and I'm trying to plan for the future.

I was considering taking a year out to work and travel and then coming back to do my masters in American literature.

Has anyone done anything similar?

Would recommend?

Would not?
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>>8833650
>American literature.

I think you know the answer.
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>>8833650
Is a 'Masters in American literature' a euphemism for doing nothing
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>>8833650
>taking a year out to travel
>masters in American literature

Just ask daddy if he will keep paying for your masters

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How can you visit any half decent library, especially one that includes technical works, and still see the "well read" ideal as anything other than a marketing scam or a pretension among a coterie who sell you books* and vigorously engage in a circlejerk among themselves?

It's impossible to even have a surface level grasp of most things, unless you follow the tactic of pretending that nothing has happened since 1900. And pretend that all maths and science doesn't exist. And that only material published by publishers with a high revenue exists. Which is the reality that a large proportion of """intellectuals""" live in.

* A certain industrial complex in my opinion, though I know that you guys don't want to hear it
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>>8833634
Tell me OP, has The Nature of Virtue Itself changed since 1900?
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I think we live in an exciting time of shift in the intellectual zeitgeist. With field specialization occurring in every academic discipline and individuals no longer to have a breadth of knowledge in more than two or three general topics, even literature experts will have to acknowledge to impossibility of being an encyclopedia unto themselves of anything other than a necessarily delimited subset of ideas. This is going to make criticism from the point of view of a would-be human compendium of historical knowledge an absurdity, and art is going to be referential only to the author's subjective literary experience rather than appeal to the pantheon of the accepted 'Western Canon'. In this sense, books will still be made out of other books, but there will be no assumed common literary lexicon, which I think is a good thing, as being moored to one standard of academic thought is limiting rather than liberating
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>>8833634

>* A certain industrial complex in my opinion, though I know that you guys don't want to hear it

You fucking did it again. You swoop in at key moments in my life when I am about to fall back into bad habits and make me realize that life is short and 4chan is shit.

Thanks man.

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prove me wrong
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The sequels are better.
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He has a celtic name and they're the undisputed masters of literature so it's prolly true
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>>8833516
Yep pretty much OP

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Which books capture the modern human condition?
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The kind of thinking presented if your pic isnt just a modern thing, people have always been shit, no one forces you to go into social media
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>>8833555
This doesnt mean we shouldnt be throwing those people into gas chambers tho

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