/lit/, please recommend some books about the sea. Not Moby Dick tier, something comfier and shorter, fiction or non fiction.
>>8836390
Lord Jim
The Nigger of The Narcissus
The Old Man and The Sea
>>8836395
>The Old Man and The Sea
this.
>>8836405
Came here to say this, too
What book will stop the unendurable suffering of being alive
The Bible
>>8836347
Take your pick, my dude.
If one doesn't believe in God (any type of God) what philosophy is there besides nihilism?
>>8836320
most of them.
>>8836354
Who takes the time to make these?
>>8836358
Sophomore NEETs.
does /lit/ have a discord server?
inform me.
>>8836227
Yes
>>8836380
how do I join?
>>8836400
You prove your worth. Give me an original insight into Gravity's Rainbow.
I'm looking for books in the same vein as The Prince. I want to dominate the corporate ladder, or at least have a general understanding of how people gain power and keep it.
That book sounds boring as shit.
What's the best place to read a summary?
>>8836220
maybe machiavellis other book. I think its called "Discourses on Livy", never read it though
Should this be required for high school/college students?
>>8836205
Yes.
/thread
>>8836205
Another nice little booklet for essay writing is "They say, I say" or something like that. It's about the same size as TEOS
>>8836205
incoming bait posts calling it shit
Should be required for everyone.
Guys, I think Robert Fitzgerald translation of Homer's Illiad and Odyssey might the best out there: http://www.bopsecrets.org/gateway/passages/homer.htm
The Iliad:
Sing, goddess, the anger of Peleus’ son Achilleus
and its devastation, which put pains thousandfold upon the Achaians,
hurled in their multitudes to the house of Hades strong souls
of heroes, but gave their bodies to be the delicate feasting
of dogs, of all birds, and the will of Zeus was accomplished
since that time when first there stood in division of conflict
Atreus’ son the lord of men and brilliant Achilleus. . . .
Translated by Richmond Lattimore
Anger be now your song, immortal one,
Akhilleus’ anger, doomed and ruinous,
that caused the Akhaians loss on bitter loss
and crowded brave souls into the undergloom,
leaving so many dead men — carrion
for dogs and birds; and the will of Zeus was done.
Begin it when the two men first contending
broke with one another —
the Lord Marshal
Agamémnon, Atreus’ son, and Prince Akhilleus. . . .
Translated by Robert Fitzgerald
Rage — Goddess, sing the rage of Peleus’ son Achilles,
murderous, doomed, that cost the Achaeans countless losses,
hurling down to the House of Death so many sturdy souls,
great fighters’ souls, but made their bodies carrion,
feasts for the dogs and birds,
and the will of Zeus was moving toward its end.
Begin, Muse, when the two first broke and clashed,
Agamemnon lord of men and brilliant Achilles. . . .
Translated by Robert Fagles
>>8836150
>Best
It all depends on what you're looking for. Honestly.
i am quite partial to Stanley Lombardo's translation.
You ever hear of dactylic hexameter?
I really liked this book until it became the Tumblr Bible
>>8836130
nice blog post, fag
>>8836130
so you liked it until 2010?
>spend more time designing a cover for your novel than you do actually writing it
Sh-shut up sanpai, im writing it in my head!
>actually writing a book instead of hiring a ghostwriter on fiver
>>8836136
Dumbass weeb faggottron.
Just finished reading this for the first time, you guys arent going to like this but this is the first book ive ever voluntarily read, this is my first post, and man do i love this book its like i just finished a really good tv series, anyway to real matter at hand i want to watch the movie version, how do you feel about that?
>like i just finished a really good tv series
You don't say?
bad bait
What are some books that are good in audio form? Making long drives to work and need something in between.
Pride and Prejudice with Rosamund Pike. She does a good job with the humor and characters.
Poetry, maybe?
>>8836072
Let this man read you Harry Potter.
>>8836104
All I can hear in her voice is the crazy bitch from Gone Girl. That movie killed my crush on her.
Name a great book that ISN'T a meme.
>>8836060
I dislike the meme that distorts what meme actually means.
Greats books stay great because of memes. People hear of them and sometimes read them and then it passes on.
But you of course mean to ask; what books are trolls. I answer; fish around. Read the descriptions and some reviews. I could recommend a good book that doesn't do anything for you personally. This doesn't mean it isn't a good book, and it doesn't even mean you wont end up liking it someday, you should rather find in your own time.
>>8836060
William Gaddis - The Recognitions
Joseph McElroy - Women & Men
William Gass - The Tunnel
>>8836083
ALL MEMES
Why does he trigger SJWs? They won't even admit he was a good writer.
He wasn't though
>>8835941
do you think Henry James's prose is good? do you find yourself agreeing with Harold Bloom?
talk to your doctor about bad tastes today
>>8835937
Where have you seen this?
Any love for John Fante?
I loved Ask the Dust. It reminded me of a Bukowski if he was a polished writer. That may be a turn off for someone, but I enjoyed it greatly. I'm starting "Wait Until Spring, Bandini" with hope it's as good.
>>8835926
As bad as Bukowski, Kerouac, Fitzgerald and Hemingway.
Read Portnoy's Complaint instead.
>>8835926
Fante is such a comfy read, I've worked my way through most of his books. I'd rank them like this:
Brotherhood of the Grape > The Big Hunger > West of Rome > Wait Until Spring, Bandini > The Wine of Youth > Dreams from Bunker Hill > Road to Los Angeles > Ask the Dust > 1933 Was a Bad Year
Currently reading his Selected Letters (the authorial style is as Bandini as expected). After that I think I've got just Full of Life to go.
>>8835926
I like Ask the Dust. I call it Fante's Inferno.
Over-rated and over-analyzed trash.
>>8835909
Why is American art so "watered down"? This happens in movies and books. Even the supposed patrician ones are like this.
>>8835927
this is completely false, try to read more
>>8835909
What does overanalyzed even mean you pleb