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>>8840470
yes. i kept a copy by my bedside for about 5 months and read it daily. usually on waking rather than at night. this will be confused but here goes.

aside from the practical consideration that the nyrb one volume reprint isn't a good edition and it's better to spring for the folio society 3 volume (or the old out of print modern library edition the folio is based on), i enjoyed watching a mind at work in processing and shaping everything that enters it into something that matches its needs and preoccupations. it is rather like montaigne obviously but with montaigne there's the likelihood that the educated reader will either already know or will eventually get around to most of the classical sources montaigne continually goes back to. And so there's the chance for you to engage with his engagement in two broad ways - how his interpretations impact your reading of the sources and what they show about his own reading. Burton more frequently removes that first aspect since it's unlikely you'd ever want to read most of what he cites. so if you're going to engage with his book you've got to do it purely through him. and so once you come to like him - or at least understand him - it ends a more personal experience than what you get even with montaigne - or any great memorialist for that matter since they all tend to write about periods or events you could have some interest in outside themselves. burton is in fair part antiquated medical theories most often presented in distorted portion so i have a very hard time imagining anyone enjoying that material in itself. it comes down to the mind of the writer and there it is beautiful fun once you put the effort in to grow initiated.

The dude rambles a lot and looses track of his thought often. That's why this book is so long imo. But I guess you could argue this is somehow a positive thing.

>>8840515
Thank you for your thoughtful post. What version do you reccomend?

>>8840210
my dick desu

>>8840210
who gives a fuck, delete this thread

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>>8840210

>>8840201
Didn't read it. Sounded gay.

>>8840201
Who is that and why does it look like Chloe Moretz?

>>8840201
10/10 pic OP

>>8841580
lurk more on /tv/

Are you sure? /lit/ told me she was talentless

>>8840188
and McDonald's has the bestselling food in the world

>>8840192
>marketshare equals quality

Do you also consider McDonalds the best restaurant?

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This is the only movie I've seen that was much better than the book.

>>8840138
>book minus final chapter>film>book with final chapter

smdh desu tbqhwyf

>>8840138
>>8840197

Just noticed you're a tripfag. It all makes sense now.

>Fiction or nonfiction is point

*is fine

>>8840101
>"primitive"

Nigga don't pull the "primitive" card, they fucking went around with sticks and stones in mud/stick huts. Are somehow you have the God damn balls to say "primitive."

They're fucking uncivilized. Don't do the entire "its just another culture manee, dude they're just like us broo" no they're fucking not.

>>8840476
Fuck you.

Also The Storyteller by Mario Vargas Llosa, OP.

>>8840079
Virgins

Cioran and Wittgenstein

>>8840079
According to Kant it may be reasonable under certain circumstances at least.

>>8840035
holy shit op... that picture is frightening the shit out of me

>>8840035

Which paradoxes are you thinking of?

>>8840042
Uh, why? Am I missing something?

>>8840023
>I loves
Fuck

>>8840023
i dont think /pol/ even likes it. theyre okay with it for the content but i dont think most of them think its an actual good book.

theyre more about camp des saints

>>8840023
I tried to read it, I really, truly did. When I made my attempt I even half agreed with the politics. Images of society collapsing always interest me. But the writing was just too bad for me to stand, even then. I got around 5 chapters in before setting it aside.

>>8839984
switch stupid with smart and that quote becomes true

>>8839984
"Lunch has been cancelled today due to lack of hustle. Deal with it."

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>>8840123
Nice one

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Not even memeing

Something you can never learn sadly. You can learn how to construct a plot and write basic prose. But writing really good prose requires an innate talent: a feeling for sound, cadence, wordplay. A good writer, whether he writes minimalistically or elaborately, will make the words flow effortlessly.

>>8839980
mastery of symbolism and vocabulary. themes and good characters should also be included

>>8839864
its like 50f every day the beach is going to be far colder. though if you go it'll certainly be deserted.

t. Califag

>free will doesn't exist
>i believe i have no choice but to say this but i know freewill doesn't exist

>>8839864
Check out James Lasdun's The Fall Guy and Don Winslow's The Cartel. Both well-written crime novels.

>>8839861
Short answer no.

Prose is a tremendously wide concept that incorporates virtually every facet of language, some things always translate, some things don't. Some things translate into some languages, somethings don't translate into others.

In the case of French and English especially there are so many commonalities and overlapping vocabulary that it leaves a lot of space for prose to remain intact or reasonably translated.

It's all about translator's skills. If a translator sucks, of course it's better to read the original. If a translator is able to reproduce the beauty and the main features of an author's prose, just go with it. (Also be aware there are some countries with better skilled translators, because that really depends on specialized schools and universities; some countries actually prove to have something like a natural talent towards translations). Between reading an original with a 60-70% of comprehension and reading a translation with a 95% of comprehension, I choose the second.

>>8839901
Its more like the original for 60% comprehension
Read a translation for 85% comprehension
Read the original alongside a translation for 95% comprehension

>>8839802
you mad, kiddo?

Perhaps you should reconsider your opinion on Collins. After all, he does have quite a few good poems.

Take his "Nostalgia," for instance - I think everyone can relate to this charming bit of satire. One probably couldn't even help himself from laughing at least once while reading it simply because it's so witty, and the imagery is simply spectacular later on in the poem.

Another good poem of his is "Forgetfulness." Here, he muses on how people forget more and more as they age. His inconsistent punctuation and capitalization really adds a visual element to this poem, which highlights a concrete aspect of forgetfulness. Also, his imagery and use of personification really adds life to this poem.

Finally, perhaps take a look at "The Art of Drowning," where he asks himself whether or not life can really flash before our eyes. While the detail alone is great in the first three stanzas, he really hits home with the sudden thrust of the drowning man's reality into the poem. His final stanza especially underscores the totality of death and has strong existentialist overtones.

Of course, free verse isn't everyone's cup of tea, but anyone could admit that he is able to deliver quite a bit of substance in his poetry - even if form is lacklustre.

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>>8839802
>some retarded bullshit artist named Billy
It's all just a little bit of hitory repeating

hah ya give me some recs too, for my brother..of course XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>8839791
Take the fucking redpill already and realize the truth