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>>8949704
Why read it in English?

>>8949708
Because I don't speak German.

I know this is a troll thread, BUT

if you are really concerned with biased translations or even translators editing parts of the text, I would probably try to find the oldest translation available of Mein Kampf. If you find a book pre 1940, consider it good.

Fuck you then.

Read my diary then:

Dear diary, fuck /lit/.

>>8949650
"Shut up," I said, still intensely groggy from being woken from a dead sleep. The incessant questions and ever louder whining had become too much. I was finally awake.
"I think I should go."
"Maybe you should."
"Why are you being so mean."
"I'm sorry, I was extremely sleepy and cranky. What I said was rude and disrespectful, and very out of character."
"It was. I should go."
"I don't want you to go, but I really wasn't expecting to be woken up. Why did you wake me up?"
"I didn't know you were asleep."
"I was totally asleep. I'm sorry I told you to shut up."
"It was really mean. I couldn't sleep."
"Well now we are both awake."
"Do you want me to go?"
"I think you are, creative, talented, and cool, and I am very attracted to you, but I don't think we are compatible. You drink way more than I would ever want to and you chain smoke. I try to live healthfully, and this doesn't feel like a good fit at all."
"Why didn't you tell me that before?"
"I didn't know before. Tonight really convinced me. Maybe I'm just slow."
"What."
"Never mind."
"What."
"Should I go?"
"I don't want you to go, but if you ask that question again, my answer will be yes."
"Do you want me to go?"
"Yes."
"Why did you say that?"
"So you will stop asking me that question."
"Why are you being mean?"
"I'm not being mean, but it is clear to me that you want to go."
"I don't want to go." Continues getting dressed. Pulls up Uber on phone.
"Your actions say you want to go. You convinced me that you want to go."
"I wasn't sure."
"I became unsure. The more you asked me, the more it made me question. Now I think you should go."
"I don't want to go."
"Then why did you ask me again, after I told you that?"
"I wasn't thinking."
"That's quite a way to go through life."
"I'm sorry."
"Don't be sorry. You have exhausted me."

ugh i lost my diary at a bar the other night please dont find it

also would say that mccandless is the ultimate villain of the book? i mean he had the information and the maps of that land that showed there was nothing there which the others were trying to keep from being leaked so they could send forces there. but he was apathetic to the whole situation and kinda welcomed the destruction that would ensue like he didn't have the power to stop it in his hands. then just selling out to the gaywad lester and fucking off to an island somewhere.wtf

Exhausting, and incredibly cynical. Really don't think there's a single "good" character in the whole novel, Liz included: I got the feeling that the "book" she was writing was just empty plagiarism, a greedy pastiche of ideas unoriginal and scenes relevant little-but-herself (this idea kinda comes into play through McCandless when he says something along the lines of "People think shit is interesting just because it happened to them").

The parts of the novel that aren't dialogue are written in an insanely arcane way; Gaddis seems to hate many, many things, with commas potentially being like in the Top 3 of Things Most Hated.

Like a lot of postmodernism I imagine this work only getting more and more relevant and pertinent with age. Very excited to get into J R.

Some scattered thoughts

>>8949774
yeah, it's weird there is definitely a dualist nature to all of the characters. like a constant struggle and push and pull. you see it where liz says to billy that he reminds her of paul in many ways and you see it with mccandless/lester. different sides of the same coin.

the scenes with paul and liz were very exhausting. i was always happy when he would fuck off on a trip for a few days and dreaded when he came back.

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zizeks, zizeks heah. getcha red hot ideologies, two for a dollar. straight from the trash can, getcha red hot zizeks

there you go kid now beat it you're bothering me

>>8949595
Has he not talked about this several times? Does he retell the story about the black guy who let him call him a nigger again?

What the fuck is wrong with him and his nose? Does he have a really bad cold or something?

We wuz oats and sheit

I never thought 4chan would adopt a twitter meme. How utterly shameful.

Fuck you [s4s]

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Brother of mine may I borrow some oats
For my stomach it aches beyond reason.
Prone I have lain, by the donkeys and goats
and I fear I will not last the season.

Cannot you spare me a mouthful of grain?
I am wasting away, while you fatten.
Sick as I am will you lighten my pain?
Just one lick of the gruel you have spat in?

>shakesperean prose

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>>8949494

>>8949494
You realize that oat posting isn't new, yes?

>>8949429
>The Unabomber Manifesto
It does really outline where he is coming from, and what to do about it. Great manifesto. Would reject technology to.
>Iceberg Slim's Pimp
A very different work, and one that is shamefully underdiscussed here. It's a great story, and more like a traditional narrative. It taught me more about The Pimp Game than any other singular source, no doubt.

Iceberg Slim's Pimp?

Panzram obviously.

>>8949429
The Autobiography of Malcolm X :^)

>>8949362
bump

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lit you guys suck

and another one

>>8949262
i dunno man, i read 600 pages in the last week. and half of the week i was fucking around with my wife.

i can read about ~75 pages on one book per day, then i change topics

one thing that helps me is focus on the story, not on the page, not on the chapter, the faster i want to finish a book the longer it takes

>>8949262
used to read 8-12+ hours daily

>>8949221
meatzsche

>>8949221
Philosophy does not come in package deals, that's you getting in the way of reason

>>8949221
>>8949221

You don't. Oppose globalism, strive for virtue and seek meaning.

Universalism with reference to some absolute, transcendent pole around which to organize seems like it inevitably slides towards what you're trying to avoid.

Come to think of it, maybe Christianity's your answer then.

>>8949174
>i have a fucking professor who i pay thousands of dollars to teach me things
>i don't ask my fucking professor for advice
fuck sake, just take a shitload of stimulants and fuck off.

>buying books

Sorry, lad, I would help you but I'm laughing too much.

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>>8949174
You might just have some issue with philosophy.
Try taking notes, such as the Cornell method to be able to come up with questions.

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>>8949152
>one very dark looking author

>>8949162
I waited for this comment

>>8949152
goosebumps

>>8949145
>ask for YA tier plot
>dont want ya
get your shit together son

>>8949145
1984?
Best I can think of.

The reason dystopian/rebellion stories are so commonly YA is because believing that you can triumph over a dystopia is something only little kids think about.

The rest of us adults know better. This is the world and you can't beat the ones on top.

>>8949125
i don't understand this guy at all

it's Cathedral ground zero

>>8949155
He's a hard nut to crack. Are his occult writings in anyway combatable with his newer ideas or are they all abandoned?

>>8948968
fuck off butters you betrayed us

>>8948996
when you left us

>>8948968
what are you, some kind of individual? struggling against the organism of society? i suppose people like you are useful in one way or another, sometimes shining brightly enough to pull away the weaklings, letting them wither under your illusory glow, or if you are not even bright enough to be a will o the wisp, you get rid of yourself for us. the organism of society needs you to help keep itself clean. like the birds who pick out pests from an alligator's mouth.

fuckin tripfags.