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Does anyone here speak spanish?
I just finished writing a short story and would like to hear some input on it.
i'm sorry i don't have an english version, i'm a native spanish speaker so yeah. i guess i could translate it, but it wouldn't be the same and i'm not 100% fluent in english anyway
honest writing advice is also welcome, even if it's harsh.... i would try to be as open to it as possible even if it hurts my pride, lol
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>>8947779
Post it, I'll read it and tear you a new one.
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Yo lo hablo. ¿Quieres que te den opiniones sobre tu historia?
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no, i don't. sorry.
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In what order should I read Plato's works?
Is there a nice volume collection of a few of his essential works I can pick up?
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Noob
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>>8947691
skip it and jump to something that is actually relevant to the 21st century
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>>8947691
>Is there a nice volume collection of a few of his essential works I can pick up?
A Plato Reader
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>check the wiki
>read a bit about the plot
>look at author
>realise it's written by a woman
>DROPPED
>even before I started
Anyone else ?
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>>8947642
It's the finest English novel ever written
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The opportunity cost of reading women's writings is too high.
Who else /efficient/ here?
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Elena. Ferrante.
Check out how hip I am.
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This is cool as hell. Should I buy these? I didn't know that the game of thrones had such a cool collection of books like this. Do I buy it or not?
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>>8947637
Hate to break it to you, but that's not actually the complete series.
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>>8947637
No. I'd never suggest anyone read A Song of Ice and Fire. But if you really want to read them that badly, hold off on any fancy collections until the series is actually over. Pick up used copies of the paperbacks or borrow them from the library. They might seem long but they're easy reads.
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>>8947902
Ive never read the books before, are they really that bad?
What's the recommended translation for The Iliad and/or the Odyssey? I understand Fagles is popular here, but I can't find his version for a reasonable price (UK). Penguin classics has the Hammond translation, but have heard nothing about that.
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Alexander Pope translation is by far the best
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>>8947544
Seconding Pope. For the Iliad at least. His Odyssey isn't as good.
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>>8947534
Depends what you're looking for from a translation, obviously. But you can google it to see samples from most versions online.
Not sure why price is an issue- I see them quite a bit in second hand bookshops, plus they should be in libraries.
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Where does /lit/ go to download ebooks?
Libgen.io has been down for quite some time now.
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http://aaaaarg.fail/
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I get them from the Kindle store
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>>8947585
fuck off normie
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Hey /lit/ can you guys recommend me some poems by Robert Frost?
Also general poetry thread, post some timeless poems by various authors.
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I like mowing, mending wall, home burial, after Apple picking, the woodpile, a time to talk, out out- and the star splitter
I've only read his book north of Boston so far (and about a dozen from other collections)
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There was never a sound beside the wood but one,
And that was my long scythe whispering to the ground.
What was it it whispered? I knew not well myself;
Perhaps it was something about the heat of the sun,
Something, perhaps, about the lack of sound—
And that was why it whispered and did not speak.
It was no dream of the gift of idle hours,
Or easy gold at the hand of fay or elf:
Anything more than the truth would have seemed too weak
To the earnest love that laid the swale in rows,
Not without feeble-pointed spikes of flowers
(Pale orchises), and scared a bright green snake.
The fact is the sweetest dream that labor knows.
My long scythe whispered and left the hay to make.
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Design
Robert Frost, 1874 - 1963
I found a dimpled spider, fat and white,
On a white heal-all, holding up a moth
Like a white piece of rigid satin cloth--
Assorted characters of death and blight
Mixed ready to begin the morning right,
Like the ingredients of a witches’ broth--
A snow-drop spider, a flower like a froth,
And dead wings carried like a paper kite.
What had that flower to do with being white,
The wayside blue and innocent heal-all?
What brought the kindred spider to that height,
Then steered the white moth thither in the night?
What but design of darkness to appall?--
If design govern in a thing so small.
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/lit/, who is the most well-written female character of all time? Is it Hedda Gabler? She has been called the female Hamlet.
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>>8947493
ibsen and james were both great at it. de marivaux too.
la fayette is similarly excellent
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>>8947493
best translation for Hedda?
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Medea
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This is probably only for those of us who write lengthy novels, as that's what I'm seeking advice on, but if you can describe yourself as an author your help is welcome.
What do you guys do to keep organized when writing your books?
Typically, I have a folder on my desktop with this inside:
1. A file of the original idea. Once it's strong enough to start writing about, I stop touching this document. Sort of like a reference point if I lose track.
2. A file with a general scene-by-scene, starts out as basic sentences that I keep expanding upon as I go along
3. A file for random good ideas and blurbs I come up with along the way that don't quite fit
4. An "official" file with the actual text, everything divided up by chapters, etc etc
I'm questioning if this is the right thing for me right now, I'm writing the longest book I've ever done and I just can't keep up with all this text. I can't stay organized. Cutting and pasting and rearranging, attempting to follow my scene-by-scene (I've never really been someone who has the ability to write everything in order), it's just discouraging and messy and inefficient.
So what methods do you guys use? How well does it work for you? High tech and low/no tech methods all welcome.
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>>8947429
Holy fuck is this thread about SJWs, women, and liberals? xD
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>>8947436
Did you even read the title of my post, anon?
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>>8947449
Did you really want me to?
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>tfw when years into reading and writing
>tfw you thought you can write a good text
>tfw everything is just your nostalgic bullshit nonsense with plain political sublpot
>tfw when characters are worse than average 2D anime dolls
>tfw no depth and no wise thoughts to be written
>tfw no life experience
Why live? How to fight idea lacking/idea fixation?
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>>8947421
bump
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>>8947421
>no life experience
>why live?
Um... You've already answered your own question, dude.
So either write about the challenge of writing and having no life experience (as that is hot for you right now), or go and get some fucking life experience.
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>>8947721
> write about the challenge of writing
Would you read that?
What other places do you visit to discuss /lit/erature?
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unichan
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>>8947187
my mind
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Books like this one
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Did you finish the book?
Is it as good as /lit/ says?
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>>8947095
It's very good. (not OP)
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>>8947065
Is this the snobby kids east coast school murder thingy?
How do I into political and economic theory? I'm pretty much a total layman. Only familiar with Smith, Marx, Keynes, Hayek. Any advice/recs would be appreciated.
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shameless self bump
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>>8947062
Just take the redpill, kiddo
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>>8947062
General advice would be to check out the reading lists for undergraduate courses of respectable universities.
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What's the best edition of Shakespeare's completed works?
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>>8947028
I can't comment on the best because I haven't compared them, but I really enjoy the Norton Shakespeare. Single column, good notes, brief but good introductions, and comparisons of different versions of plays. It also includes neat information on life in Shakespeare's time, and even includes documents from his contemporaries about him.
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>>8947028
I don't know but I got oxford and I don't like it very much.
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>>8947028
This fucker was FUNNY
I think this is what saved him js
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Putting "substance" into my writing
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Earlier, I thought my problem was descriptions, which kind of remains a problem. But the actual problem is deeper.
Here's a demonstration. I have a story to tell. Let's say its a detective who is woken up with a call about a murder.
>He was woken up by a phone call at dawn. It was still raining outside. He got up and started getting dressed. His wife, still half-asleep, asked him what happened. He told her that the hairdresser had been found dead.
So this is very amateurish, and I thought that my problem is that I am not making the scene vivid by inserting description.
Take two:
>Raindrops pattered on the roof obscuring the low, rhythmic hum of the cellphone vibrating on the bedstand. It moved slowly across the table as it rand and stopped and rang again, the caller dialing back relentlessly. The phone crawled over the edge of the bedstand and fell over. There was a shuffling under the covers and a hand emerged from the warmth of the blankets, probing the floor for the cellphone.
>He put it to his ear and listened silently.
> “It isn’t dawn yet,” his wife said, half-asleep, as he put it down without having spoken a word.
> He got up and mechanically puts on his navy blue trousers and light blue shirt, the lapels say Police.
> “Somebody died,” he says nonchalantly.
>“Who?”
>"The barber," he replied.
Now I look back at it and its worse.
So obviously, what I'm lacking is not "description" but substance.
How do I explain this? My story is very barebones. The characters and setting do not seem alive. They do not appear like real people or real settings.
I've seen this mistake in a lot of amateur writers on places like wattpad too. Its like this happens then that happens and then there's this thing and that lying around, and she picks it up and does this with this....
How do I get out of this amateurish trap? If a professional writer would've done the above scene, you would've felt you're there in that bedroom, like you know the couple. Like you can feel the wife's frustration and the husband-cop's weariness from his job, etc. How do I do those things?
(I cooked up this example for the purpose of this post, btw. It isnt my story).
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>>8946988
Stop reading novels and start reading poetry. Interact with more people and try to develop empathy. Keep practicing, good prose is unspeakably difficult.
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...so, the previous owner still lives in the house, or...?
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>>8946994
Recommend poetry that would suit my requirements