Do you pay attention to people who use the phrase "white bro"?
I just had someone criticise my debut memoir for being "bored white bro autobiography". Should I feel as insulted as I do? This doesn't feel nice at all. I have already written several lengthy passages within the memoir itself about the various way I imagine different people are likely to perceive my work and its author and some form of criticisms it is likely to receive.
Am I just being sensitive right now? I can't decide.
>>8949344
>debut memoir
Stopped reading right there.
Nice bate, though. 5.75/10
>>8949344
>>>/pol/
This isn't your safe space, fuckboi. Women and people of color are taking back literature and there's nothing you can do to stop it.
God, the narcissism of white make stormtards is simply astounding. Just shut the fuck up. Your life has been easy as fuck, no one cares what you have to say. You have so much privilege and still thing your writing matters. Disgusting.
>>8949358
Huh? What do you mean?
Did anything significant come out in the 21st century yet? Not just in literature, but art in general?
Here's my view of it: art came from religion. It was based in it, it had meaning that was more then spiritual, for lack of a better word. Music was supposed to evoke rain with all kinds of chants, sculpture wasn't just art, it had a strong religious side to it. Even theater was replaced by cinema (which is rather unimaginative for the last 15 years).
We live in a rather Godless society. Few people know what it really means to be religious. And even TV and celebrities lost their sacred place. The only thing that is holy today is the internet and maybe science. Music is completely inessential, it's just for fun and entertainment really.
Is pure literary writing at all possible? I'd say no, because if it were, poetry would still be alive.try to argue me that it lives on in music. it does not
What comes next in literature?
>>8949335
>What comes next in literature?
We honestly can't know for another 50 years.
Moby Dick didn't become /lit/ until well after Hermey's life.
For all we know, King might become regarded as /lit/ in the future.
>>8949335
why don't you just write something yourself, please? want somethin done right... well, you know the phrase.
>>8949335
if money still dictating where the music and literature goes we'll have hip hop and YA for the rest of our poor lives
I am in late high school (yes I'm 18) and I have friends that read, but only YA tier stuff. My family are very /lit/ and I grew up surrounded by books and started reading the classics young, and bypassed the YA phase.
I've suggested books to them, even Jane Austen and the like (romance element ties in with YA) but they all complain that the language is too hard, that the classics are sexist/racist/whatever (so I'm friends with some borderline SJWs, there is literally no one else in my school worth bothering with) and that the plots just aren't as interesting as John Green/Divergent/generic YA romance #7.
How do I change this? I have no one to talk to about books outside of my parents, and it's getting really annoying.
>>8948888
Get new friends
>>8948905
The rest of my school are sport obsessed bogans who actively recoil at words longer than 3 syllables and haven't picked up a book in years. There is no one else.
>>8948888
It's probably safe to now say your friends are eternally pleb, the current-but-not-final mass productions of the late-capitalist hegemonic Culture Industry.
Attention /lit/izens
How would a fellow go about writing a work so monumental in importance that it would be considered a modern day Ulysses?
Just asking for a friend like...
trying to figure that out for myself m80
>>8948203
Same as Ulysses but instead of a day it's a year lmao
Instant canonisation
>author is a woman
Dropped.
>author is non-white
dosvydanya
>author is german or british
dropped
>count the number of books I own written by women
>it's 14
Do you like her?
Who?
I mean that literally, by the way.
>>8947683
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCy6Qlkv2hif7KPtmMmNUGUw
Do these cum devils know that the only reason people watch them is because they're pretty and not because they have anything interesting to say?
Have you ever tried reading a book that turned out to be too difficult for you to read?
>>8947645
Thus Spake Zarathustra, read to the end regardless and probably barely took in half of what he was saying. Maybe because I only really read history.
>>8947711
This and the Birth of Tragedy.
Only two Nietzsche books that fucked me up.
>>8947645
Not too difficult, but the first few times I tried to read Cold Mountain I really couldn't get in to it. Waited a few years, picked it up, and was hooked by the end of the first paragraph.
How can you plebians even compare? Her literary taste is top-tier.
>>8947568
People like this should be executed at once.
>>8947568
omg women, im so triggered. Here's Pepe's reaction (he hates women and liberals, and especially feminists)
>>8947574
You're just jealous of her intellect and refined taste, I bet you're not even a feminist.
I got into an argument with my boyfriend about gender and literature. He asked me to name a masterpiece written by a woman and I couldn't actually come up with any works that are considered masterpieces.
What masterpieces have women written, /lit/?
my diary desu
>>8947503
this t.b.h
Pride and Prejudice, of course
Algún hispanohablante aquí? Acabo de leer un poco de Vonnegut, Kerouac y otros americanos de esta época y me parece que la irreverencia, el carácter de yo sé qué de sus estilos que se alaban tanto ya había popularizado la generación de 98 (Unamuno en particular) y otros, como Borges. Qué opináis?
Anglocentrismo.
En realidad importa poco si ya se había hecho antes, lo que hicieron ellos fue ponerlo en su contexto, sin copiarlo necesariamente.
Lo que no es decir que me gusten Vonnegut o los Beats. Los odio con odio jarocho, y Unamuno y Borges me fascinan.
>>8947470
>los Beats
Siempre olvido esa palabra. Estoy de acuerdo con eso de Anglocentrismo, ahora me obsesiona averiguar lo que se ha tomado / robado anglo-escritores de otros idiomas
>>8947496
No te obsesiones, todos los escritores de todos los tiempos y lugsres han hecho eso. El anglocentrismo consiste en que solo se toma en cuenta lo que se ha producido en inglés sin ver lo que se hs hecho en otros países.
En el caso de Vonnegut et al, dudo que hayan leído a Unamuno (a Borges sí lo creo más factible), lo que sucede es que quizá llegaron a una misma estética por caminos diferentes. No lo robaron, sino que lo "descubrieron" ello mismos en su cultura.
Si te interesa de todos modos, busca teoría postcolonial.
ITT: favourite short reads
Obvious choice is obvious
>>8946721
This'n nach heer
>>8946721
Technically a short story and a novella put together but whatever
>>8946721
brother, can you spare some oats?
Can anyone recommend some books that have decent eroticism and sex scenes? I'm not after something like 50 shades. I want something a bit smarter.
>>8946338
my diary, desu
>>8946338
Atlas Shrugged
Tropic of Cancer
Story of the Eye
Justine
I'll check my goodreads, I love sex /lit/
>
Henry Miller
“At night when I look at Boris' goatee lying on the pillow I get hysterical. O Tania, where now is that warm cunt of yours, those fat, heavy garters, those soft, bulging thighs? There is a bone in my prick six inches long. I will ream out every wrinkle in your cunt, Tania, big with seed. I will send you home to your Sylvester with an ache in your belly and your womb turned inside out. Your Sylvester! Yes, he knows how to build a fire, but I know how to inflame a cunt. I shoot hot bolts into you, Tania, I make your ovaries incandescent. Your Sylvester is a little jealous now? He feels something, does he? He feels the remnants of my big prick. I have set the shores a little wider. I have ironed out the wrinkles. After me you can take on stallions, bulls, rams, drakes, St. Bernards. You can stuff toads, bats, lizards up your rectum. You can shit arpeggios if you like, or string a zither across your navel. I am fucking you, Tania, so that you'll stay fucked. And if you are afraid of being fucked publicly I will fuck you privately. I will tear off a few hairs from your cunt and paste them on Boris' chin. I will bite into your clitoris and spit out two franc pieces...”
Currently reading this for the first time, I'm about halfway through The Counterforce and I have no idea what the fuck is going on anymore.
In The Zone was 400 pages long but still coherent. Now I'm just in a constant state of confusion -what exactly do the Schwarzkommando want? Why are all the Hereros suddenly all good after 00000 is explained? Is Slothrop in some sort of catatonic insanity? What's Katje relationship with Blicero again? What's up with the story of the bulb and that 30 page long series of Slothrop flashbacks?
I'm losing it, /lit/.
>>8946025
Yeah, that sounds about right.
>>8946025
This honestly sounds like some much fun, i've got it lying next to my bed ready for when i finish the magic mountain (which btw is also great)
Thanks for the hype litfam
>>8946025
http://www.ottosell.de/pynchon/rainbow.htm
also katje was temporarily bliceros sex slave along with gottfried
No stack and recent purchases thread?
Stack and recent purchases thread
I'll start.
>pic related
Any tips on which one I should read next?
Finished Lolita yesterday, now what?
>>8945447
>unironically reading Dickens
He's a fucking chump and there are no good books he has written. How can you survive 300 pages of prose from a failed playwright?
>>8945460
Bought Oliver Twist and Treasure Island(read) for no other reason than they were on sale. Two bucks each I believe
Is it really that bad though?
>>8945468
Having released most of his works in serial, ie 10 pages a week in a newspaper, he has tried to draw out ideas and plots as long as possible. Because he was essentially payed per word
I'm just starting on book 12, I dont know what happened to the reading group but as it shows, /lit/ autists are incapable of following a set schedule despite not leaving their room
get in here
How organised was this? How many people said they were going to take part? How long after it was first discussed was Day 1 (gotta give people time to get the book if they want a physical copy)? Did you have a schedule and an OP who was going to post every day?
I would make a poll to work out who is still around and how far in they are.
lol The heroic exploit of Diomedes is my favorite part of the whole poem.
>>8943276
>ywn be as badass as diomedes