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I do want to learn more, understand more. I plan to follow lits guide to philosophy, but I am constantly irritated by self doubt concerning my intelligence. Is it true that some work will always remain beyong my comprehension?

How important is intelligence to becoming wiser? Is there a way to read and truly understand the great works with sheer hard work?
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>beyong

I reported your thread by the way.
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>>8950644
Mistakes happen. Your parents might know.
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I am also interested in this.

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This article illustrates just how stupid the concept of "death of the author" is:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2017/01/07/poet-i-cant-answer-questions-on-texas-standardized-tests-about-my-own-poems/

TL,DR: The author of source material on two Texas standardized tests says she can’t actually answer the questions about her own work because they are so poorly conceived.
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>>8950476
>death of the author is shit because there are stupid teachers/educational standards

really makes you think
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>>8950476
Wut. If anything that article is evidence of the opposite- that trying to uncover an author's 'true intentions' is a fool's errand.

(Of course it's not really that either, because this is a dumb multiple choice quiz and not actual academic study)

Have you actually read Barthes, Foucault, Wimsatt, Beardsley etc, OP?
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'Death of the Author' doesn't mean you get to just make up what 'Death of the Author' actually means you stupid egg.

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When will you finish your next piece of writing? What is it? Will you self-publish?
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>>8950440
>When?
Possibly in a few months, but I've been on-off it for about 18 months. Some months I write thousands of words, sometimes I just edit, sometimes I do nothing. It's a short story about euthanasia in a sci-fi dystopia desu (25,000 words so far)
>self-publish?
No. I know shitty published writers tho, who can help me.

Hbu, OP?
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>>8950440
>When will you finish your next piece of writing?
2017.

>What is it?
A Nobel Peace Prize winner.

>Will you self-publish?
No.
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>>8950440

Brother, there is no need to carry arms - I will not threaten your oats by force!

Brother, all I ask are some oats. I ask only the oats you can spare, and I would not raise a trotter to harm if you refused. But think, brother, just think on my troubles. Many days I have walked without oats, and I grow feeble.

Help me, brother.

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It doesn't matter if you hate women and minorities and think they're inferior, incapable of reading comprehension or writing anything meaningful, or if you think the sun shines out of their asses.

This board is for discussing literature. It's for shitting on YA fiction. It's not for mindless baiting.

Misogynist needing their views to be validated or feminists getting triggered by it, please stop posting and replying to these baiting threads.
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>>8950367
its all fucking women creating those threads anyway looking for attention. fucking bitches
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>>8950367

Shut the fuck up already about this shit. If it RELATES to literature in ANY way then it's allowed on the board. Fuck off back to plebbit SJW.
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>>8950369
I thought it was runaway /pol/tards,

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I'm trying to edit together that huge DFW interview that's like an hour and a half for German TV down to something more manageable in size that hits most of his points but I'm realizing just how much material is repeated or contradicted.

He must say some permutation on "American systems that work very well for sustaining the economy work much worse for things like knowing how to live and finding inner peace" except that all the times he states it, he adds new qualifiers that I can't just edit in because it looks way to choppy.

God damn, I'm starting to think he was right to be so self conscious about how little sense he was making.
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>>8950344
I love his affectation of pretending to be struggling to put his 'deep' thoughts into speech and invariably utters only banalities.
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>>8950352
How... banal
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>>8950352
>wow ironically putting people down is so fucking cool and fulfilling

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now
this is a story
all about how
my life got
flipped

will be prince - rupi kaur
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aquachigger
river hunt
aquachigger
fuck my cunt

musket bullets
broken glass
southern accent
rape my ass

- "beau," rupi kaur
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sometimes you
look in the
mirror
and all
you see is
yourself

- rupi kaur
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the bandana i
wore
was meant
to discredit
damn white male
but i
can
my vagina
allows me to

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River Offices

>>8948126

youtu.be/bQp143aZUTI

Mnemosyne was one of the deities worshiped in the cult of Asclepius that formed in Ancient Greece around the 5th century BC. Asclepius, a Greek hero and god of medicine, was said to have been able to cure maladies, and the cult incorporated a multitude of other Greek heroes and gods in its process of healing. The exact order of the offerings and prayers varied by location, and the supplicant often made an offering to Mnemosyne. After making an offering to Asclepius himself, in some locations, one last prayer was said to Mnemosyne as the supplicant moved to the holiest portion of the asclepeion to incubate. The hope was that a prayer to Mnemosyne would help the supplicant remember any visions had while sleeping there

In Hesiod's Theogony, kings and poets receive their powers of authoritative speech from their possession of Mnemosyne and their special relationship with the Muses.

Zeus and Mnemosyne slept together for nine consecutive nights, thus birthing the nine Muses. Mnemosyne also presided over a pool in Hades, counterpart to the river Lethe, according to a series of 4th century BC Greek funerary inscriptions in dactylic hexameter. Dead souls drank from Lethe so they would not remember their past lives when reincarnated. Initiates were encouraged to drink from the river Mnemosyne when they died, instead of Lethe. These inscriptions may have been connected with Orphic poetry (see Zuntz, 1971).

Similarly, those who wished to consult the oracle of Trophonius in Boeotia were made to drink alternately from two springs called "Lethe" and "Mnemosyne". An analogous setup is described in the Myth of Er at the end of Plato's Republic.
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Look around you

Ancient Greeks ascribed healing magic to him
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Creative Unprofessionals
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>>8950311

Come original

youtu.be/KWo-02Hsab4

>No matter where I turned, I found myself at the foot of the massive cliff of my incompetence, and for all the self help books, motivational speeches, and NIKE adds of the world, I've never been able to sustain the immense passion and willpower necessary for scaling that peak. In fact, the only sustainable emotion I've ever been able to find in myself is the vague notion that it would be best to throw myself from the window of the tallest building I can find, and put an end to this deplorable business of life once and for all. Some people were born for greatness, but most were simply born to sputter about like a wind-up toy until death. And me? I can't even find the energy to wind myself up.

Is our trolling starting to get to him?
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>>8950217
is he suicidal?? we should get him help.
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>>8950224
We should. People on the edge only require a small push.
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how could it be?

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Is young adult fiction the lowest form of art?
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>>8950146
No, you are thinking of Austrian Economics
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>>8950146
He's putting the pussy on the pedestal way too hard
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>>8950150

A doubly ironic statement in that, even if one is not willing to append the label of 'science' to it, then economics is at least certainly some sort of dry and definite field of inquiry which is yet not an 'art'.

The second irony being that the Austrians, having criticized Marx, are thus a posteriori on the right side of history, so that the wish to categorize them as "low", when there are lower (that is, further left and consequently less true) options available for inspection, is of course ridiculous.

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Who is America's foremost prose stylist, and why is it William Gass?
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Bob Dylan.

No nobel prize = btfo
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>>8950147
Is that right?
http://www.nytimes.com/books/98/11/01/specials/gass-prizes.html
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>>8950143
Is this man a huge meme or is he any good? What should I try by him first?

what are the best love stories /lit/?
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>>8950081
certainly not my diary, desu
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Old Yeller
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Bodice ripper thread?

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How do you guys (excluding the NEETs) have the energy to read after work? By the end of my usual eight-hour shift, I can barely see straight, and coffee just makes it worse.
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>>8950055
Do your reading before work, you pleb.
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Get more sleep and eat healthier; exercise
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>>8950055
keep doing it. with time you will be able pusg your limits.

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Copy and Paste the Link;

https://youtu.be/DDqy4zXVM5A?t=1013
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Did you get it?
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This is a really good fucking insight into the 1960s weltanschauung, jesus christ

You can feel the excitement he has that enacting the kind of liberation theology of poststructuralism is the way to cut the gordian knot, like he really believes that once language is freed to reflect on itself things will just self-clarify, and all the ossified social repressions (like old aunts who can't countenance hearing about nigger beatings) will soften and dissolve

He actually has faith

Shame about what actually happened lmao
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>>8950183
WOW just noticed the date - this interview was right during the early May '68 events? Haven't gotten far enough in to see if they say that directly

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What books should I read first?

These just got delivered.
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>>8949991
read all unless you only got these because others told you to.

nietzsche is probably the most relevant
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>>8949997
Yeah, I plan to read them all but I meant in what order or what I should start with, what do people recommend to prioritize.
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>>8950005
start with plato first and go by chronological order i guess. i recommend heidegger because he counters a lot of what plato will propose

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What exactly makes something literary?
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Enough people call it that until it becomes generally accepted; e.g., Lovecraft was shitty pulp stories until fans ran a decades long campaign to legitimize him and now he is literary canon.
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>>8949960
>and now he is literary canon
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>if it can't feed your superiority complex, it's not ~real~ literature

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