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Do you consider The Watchmen (the comic) to be literature?
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A proper understanding of literature can be applied to film, manga, comics, video games and visual novels. They're just different mediums with the same goals and to group them together as such is to do them a disservice. Of course, there are some conventions prevalent in each medium that help define it but we should weigh each oeuvre by its individual merits than rather pool them together.

Having said that, I've never read The Watchmen.
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I don't consider visual mediums to be literature. That is not meant as a denigration.
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Well, to me either all comics are literature or no comics are literature. I've no real stance on the issue but if I were to regard Watchmen as literature I would have to do so for all other comics. But >>9015567 is a good post.

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Who else has these feels?
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>>9015461
where is this from ?
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>>9015511
Swan's Way you fucking pleb
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>>9015545
the only way to gain popularity as a writer these days is to subject your writing to relate with teens/young adults.

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>when a 15 page short story by Tolstoy gives a clearer explanation of Christianitty than 6 years of Catholic schooling did
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which one?
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>>9015359
What Men Live By
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>needing 6 pages of explanation to understand it
lmao

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>believed the modern world is living in the kali yuga(dark age)
>kali yuga began 5100 years ago

That is like most of civilization, when the fuck is his ideal time?
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>>9015313
Is this like how Confucius and Lao-Tzu believed that the primitive states of the ancients were better?
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>>9015775

No, this is the Hindu understanding of circular history, and they believed that previous civilizations were more advanced (spiritually and intellectually), not primitive in the contemporary sense - Evola uses the word primitive to mean 'coming first', not 'simple'. To answer OP:s question, Hinduists believe that the history of civilization is much more extensive than our western contemporaries do, though that's a bit of a simplification as their conception of time is cyclic rather than linear. So 5100 years is nothing to them.
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>>9015313
A time when humans were etheric, not physical

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I'm sad and I need a book to cry.

What books have ever made you cry?
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>>9015162
>haha mental illness is so funny xD

Fuck off
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>>9015175
Too lazy to search for a pic of someone crying, this was what I had saved on my phone.
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read Stoner

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>DFW was 24 when Broom of the System was published
>Zadie Smith was 25 when White Teeth was published
>Marek Hlasko was 23 when Eighth Day of the Week was published
>F.S. Fitzgerald was 23 when This Side of Paradise was published
>Carson McCullers was 23 when The Heart is a Lonely Hunter was published
>Tao Lin was 24 when EEEEE EEE EEEE & Bed were published
>Italo Calvino was 23 when The Path to the Nest of the Spiders was published
>Kerouac was 20 when The Sea is My Brother was published
>Goethe was 25 when The Sorrows of Young Werther was published
>Musil was 25 when The Confusions of Young Torless was published
>Hemingway was 25 when In Our Time was published
>Tatsuhiko Takimoto was 24 when Welcome to the NHK was published
>Ryu Murakami was 24 when Almost Transparent Blue was published
>Garcia Marquez was 20 when Eyes of a Blue Dog was published
>Nietzsche was 18 when "Napoleon III as a President" was published
>Nietzsche was 18 when "Fate and History" was published
>Nietzsche was 18 when Free Will and Fate was published
>Nietzsche was 19 when "Can the Envious Ever Truly Be Happy?" was published
>Nietzsche was 20 when "On Tendencies" was published
>Nietzsche was 20 when "My Life" was published
>Saramago was 25 years old when Land of Sun was published
>Dickens was 24 when Sketches by Boz was published
>Dickens was 25 when The Pickwick Papers was published
>Huxley was 25 when Limbo was published
>James Joyce was 25 when Chamber Music was published
>Proust was 25 when Pleasures and Days was published
>Mishima was 23 when Confessions of a Mask was published
>Bret Easton Ellis was 21 when Less Than Zero was published
>Bret Easton Ellis was 23 when Rules of Attraction was published
>Kenzaburō Ōe was 23 when Nip the Buds, Shoot the Kids was published
>Emile Zola was 24 when Contes à Ninon was published
>Balzac was 20 when Cromwell was published
>Baudelaire was 24 when Salon of 1845 was published
>Hitomi Kanehara was 20 when Snakes and Earrings was published
>Stig Dagerman was 23 when Ormen was published
>Strindberg was 22 when The Outlaw was published
>Ibsen was 22 when Catiline was published
>Milan Kundera was 24 when Man: A Wide Garden was published
>Adam Thirwell was 24 when Politics was published
>Ned Beaumann was 25 when Boxer, Beetle was published
>Norman Mailer was 25 when The Naked and the Dead was published
>Eleanor Catton was 22 when The Rehearsal was published
>Robert Walser was 23 when Schneewittchen was published
>Noah Cicero was 23 when The Human War was published
>Jorge Luis Borges was 24 when Fervor de Buenos Aires was published
>Tolstoy was 24 when Childhood was published
>Johan Harstad was 23 when Amublance was published
>Mira Gonzalez was 21 when i will never be beautiful enough for us to be beautiful together was published
>Mira Gonzalez was 23 when Collected Tweets was published
>Kim Insuk was 20 when Bloodline was published
>Evelyn Waugh was 25 when Decline and Fall was published
>Ben Brooks was 18 when Grow Up was published
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>>9015100
lol based Nietzsche
What is your endgame OP? Trying to blackpill yourself and others?
>Bolaño was in his 40's when he published his first novel
You are gonna make it, kiddo
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>>9015100
i want to die hehe
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>>9015114
>>Bolaño was in his 40's when he published his first novel
this
plus Tolstoy was an old fuck when he wrote his first

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What has reading fiction done for your, anon?
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Break down crying
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phone charge lasts way longer now
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What a

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How do I get back into reading? I used to read all the time when I was younger, but I have a hard time getting into books now, I can't imagine anything.
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>>9014808
Take a good long break from using screens for entertainment.
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>be interested in something
>read about it
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>>9014822
That's impossible. And would that even actually work?

>>9014841
I'm not talking about non-fiction.

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>Water is both cold and wet.

did this idiot never heard of hot tubs?
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science destroys philosophy once more
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>did this idiot never heard of hot tubs?
literally no he didnt
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But water is cold and wet. It can be heated; but that doesn't make him necesarily a liar

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>tfw feel guilty that I'm a Stirnerite but I have no method to achieve self actualisation
>tfw see psychology as an attack on people's perception of free will
>tfw feel guilty for browsing internet while eating breakfast
>tfw feel guilty for having a low attention span (get bored after 3 hours of something)
>tfw resent having a structure to my life

Any books or ideas to help me combat this feel?
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>>9014656
guilt is a spook
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life is a spook
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>>9014656
This "guilt" (or rather shame) is a good thing as it motivates you to be a better person. However, there is such a thing as wallowing in shame idiotically, being addicted to it w/o actually changing yourself. This is why you have to positively force yourself to do something you don't want but know is rewarding and difficult --- anything, really --- simply for the purpose of building up willpower. Then you must do it more and more everyday. Eating your own feces, e.g., or writing with your left hand.

Good luck, OP.

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So /lit/, does it actually help?
How much does it actually help you become less socially awkward?
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>>9014615

for the 4000th time, the book is mostly about how to act charismatic in a business environment. This is not a cure for social anxiety or autism.
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Read the Recognitions
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>>9014621
Is there a book that cures my social anxiety/autism?
Is there anything than can cure my social anxiety/autism?

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Hey guys, I am currently reading Pascal and am trying to understand this passage more clearly I simply don't get it.

"The only thing which consoles us for our miseries is diversion, and yet this is the greatest of our miseries. For it is this which principally hinders us from reflecting upon ourselves, and which makes us insensibly ruin ourselves. Without this we should be in a state of weariness and this weariness would spur us to seek a more solid means of escaping from it. But diversion amuses us, and leads us unconsciously to death."
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Shit. This quote sums up my entire life.

Let me see if I can explain it. Misery happens in life. When we're miserable, we seek distraction (diversion). So, instead of solving the thing that makes us miserable, we just look the other way because we are "entertained." The emptiness remains. And so we pass empty years, papering over our misery with empty diversions, slowly frittering away our lives until death.

Entertainment can be likened to a drug in this sense. If we weren't constantly entertained, we'd have nothing better to do than be more productive, successful, and thereby happier people. Or at least we'd contemplate the divine mysteries or something.
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Threadly reminder Pascal was a heretic.
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>>9014611
What do you get in this passage for the moment?

What does /lit/ think of him?

Is he pure pleb-tier or is there some merit in his work?
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Not all that is pleb is poo
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>>9014600
Proto-big guy
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Hello my friends. Today, I have decided that I, Anon, am going to read the "The Holy Bible".

Which version would you recommend, and why?
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>>9014475
King James

Ignore the Catholic ideologues
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The New Oxford Annotated Bible and Apocrypha
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What am I in for?
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His best book.
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It's good, practical advice that is mostly correct and worth taking to heart.
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>>9014463

Pretty much this. The autobiographical anecdotes are interesting and illustrative, the advice is solid and surprisingly insightful, the recommendations are good...I regard it as an essential book about writing and I don't even dig King.

You should pick up Danse Macabre too, though.

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