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I heard this book can cure nihilism. Thoughts?
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>>9009787
Nietzsche cured nihilism
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what about this one
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>>9009798
beat me to it

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Fuck opening lines. Post great closing lines.
>Now small fowls flew screaming over the yet yawning gulf; a sullen white surf beat against its steep sides; then all collapsed, and the great shroud of the sea rolled on as it rolled five thousand years ago.
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>The scar had not pained Harry for nineteen years. All was well.

Makes me cry everytime.
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>>9009774
"How much is that in real money?"
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And at last, I took a firm grasp of Stormy Sea at Night (Aivazovsky, 1849, oil on canvas) by both sides of the frame and, with all my quickness and might, tore it from the wall and smashed it as hard as I could on the gallery floor.

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Why do you people think scientism is wrong?
The way I see it is that science is the only way forward.
If I'm standing and I drop a pen, I can assure you it will hit the floor, so where's the flaw?
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>>9009725
Can you though? You only base what you assume to definetly know on the past experiences of yourself and others, science tries to then form a theory on what is happening. These theories are often treated as definite knowledge but in fact you dont surely know if the pen is going to fall down the next time.
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>>9009772
All I read here is someone trying to dodge reality, again, what is wrong with scientism? If we can maximize pleasure and minimize pain then science can show us the best way of living
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Anyone who claims science is shit and "wrong" doesn't really understand the scientific method, and is probably just trying to be edgy.

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>try to read the Bible
>it's boring as fuck
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>tfw to smart too believe in a sky fairy
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>>9009681
>tfw believe in a retarded religion because I don't want to look like a fedora
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>>9009676
Certain parts are interesting. Others are just long genealogies or dietary laws that are only interesting if you are a theologian. If you're reading it for literature, you should only read

>Genesis
>Exodus
>1 and 2 Samuel
>Psalms
>Job
>Ecclesiastes
>Song of Songs
>Isaiah (important parts)
>Daniel
>Jonah
>Gospels
>Romans
>Acts
>1 Corinthians
>Revelation

You'll have gotten most of the best parts and have had to endure a lot less of the dull lists and legal codes.

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Thoughts?
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it's better cover than this one
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when I was a little kid, I always read things for the plot. I've never enjoyed reading as much as I did back then.
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>>9009697
All of the "literature" stuff seems to only be worthy if it can be articulated through a plot. There is more mastery in being able to articulate things through a plot.

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The medieval dream is more real than the modern reality.

The Middle Ages did not care about giving everybody an equal position, but did care about giving everybody a position.
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what book is this?
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I want to know more! Expand OP.
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>>9009606
This. England owes me a living.

What does /lit/ think about Martha Nussbaum?
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>>9009596
I dont know but id like to replace the m with a D and throw a dart ha! in her Buss naum?
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Just another obsessed, myopic, crazy person.
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>>9011518
This is really close to working. But it has too many parts

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>Minimal knowledge is required to grasp his ideas
>He provides the easiest way out of everything—anything can be a "spook"

No wonder everyone shitposts about him.
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>>9009569
What the fuck
Is that Stirner?
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>>9009699
It is. Not sure what's up with his eye though.
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>>9009699
it's hank azaria

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this fucking man wrote some of the most erotic passages i've ever read in "if on a winter's night..."

i found myself stroking it without even being aware, particularly during the japanese chapter about the lustful, intellectual student chasing after the young daughter of his mentor, but instead passively resigning to the advances of her mom.

now, i want to read some erotic lit that captures the same beauty and humor of those passages. i looked at the wiki for the recommendations, but can't decide on what to read. "tropic of cancer" seems too oblique for my purposes, which is why i was leaning toward anaïs nin. however, i think i want to read something written by an old man.

suggestions will be most appreciated, thanks.
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chart for reference.

the only ones i've read were "the satyricon" (translated it for high school latin; funny and explicit, but not sentimental enough) and "the plum in the golden vase" (desu, i don't remember much and i think i only read the first volume).
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>>9009529
I really can't help you here, but Tropic of Cancer is indeed definitely not what you're looking for. >>9009553 Nor is de Sade, Story of the Eye, Venus in Furs, and probably a lot more in that list. Don't waste your time on it.
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>>9009603
well, i appreciate you narrowing it down at least.

to cast a wider net, i'm looking for something like "the immoralist" but not about fucking african boys on one's honeymoon; like mishima but not gay.

what was the most erotic thing you've ever read, and how did it reach you and impact you?

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>tfw started writing again

It's been a while. Used to love it, but got burned out from exams at the end of high school (they're pretty intense here), didn't write much through college, now 26 and just wrote pages and pages of stuff earlier. Felt like meeting an old friend again, I loved it.

I feel like I've missed a few important years for developing style though, any advice on how to get up to speed?
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Write a dirty pleasure first.

What you love and yearn for, what makes you feel good.

Worry about others later.

The moment you push yourself into the "Writing for others" cycle you'll find yourself burned out of it again.
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Developing style? Missing years? That's not what this is about at all; It comes or it doesn't come, that's it. I guarantee that the way you write has changed, and I guarantee that it will never stop changing. It is a living being inside of you. Not you, but the voice in your head. A twin that knows everything about you. Now be frank with that twin and you've already mastered "style".

Damn, that sure sounded easy. Too bad, not everyone's head goblin is actually useful. But it can still reach people in other ways, like writing extremely simple eye-glaze prose!
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>>9009464
>>9009564
not OP, but these are excellent posts

except for that qt image. why must you torment me so?

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>A hack, he says, is a writer who second-guesses his audience. When the hack sits down to work, he doesn’t ask himself what’s in his own heart. He asks what the market is looking for. The hack condescends to his audience. He thinks he’s superior to them. The truth is, he’s scared to death of them or, more accurately, scared of being authentic in front of them, scared of writing what he really feels or believes, what he himself thinks is interesting.

>Of any activity you do, ask yourself: If I were the last person on earth, would I still do it?

https://sivers.org/book/WarOfArt

Some notes that will take you five minutes to read that sums up the book.
I'm a contrarian by nature, so I'm trying to think of arguments as to why he's wrong. I've got a few but if there's no interest in the thread I won't bump it.
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>books aren't meant to be read just write for yourself bro
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>>9009473
You can still publish what you wrote for yourself.
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>>9009855
why there's hardly any money in it

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I don't come to /lit/ much, but I wanted to see what you guys thought of Brave New World.

I just finished it, and I think it might be my favorite book ever. The only parts I didn't like was the long descriptions of the Hatchery (which kinda makes sense because you need a lot of that information later in the book) and the massive philosophy argument between John and Mond toward the end.

But I felt Brave New World was damn-near flawless besides that. Everything about Huxley's society was fascinating, and I love Marx, John, Leninda and Henry as characters. And it feels like every other word Huxley writes is extremely profound and important.
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Yes an excellent book. It was, not to put it down at all, catharsis to me at the time and spurred me into reading literature.
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This guy's sentences run on so long. I read Doors Of Perception and it was pretty good, but fuck. His writing style, characterized by his liberal use of commas to clarify what he's saying, has made his books, in my eyes, very terse, difficult and, if you'll let me throw in another comma, shit.
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I liked it as well. Without bringing in the savage this might have been painfully average, but that viewpoint really highlighted the dangers of consumerism and the "drug" of mass media that Huxley was really trying to highlight rather than muh dystopia. He did admit in an afterword that John should have been no way able to argue on such a philosophical level having come straight from a reservation.

It's obvious which world one would want to live in if they had to choose between BNW and 1984, but like Winston said in 1984 there is still yet some hope left in the "proles" of the society, but in BNW there is none as society has not degenerated but rather "evolved" to some neo-Marxist caste system where the lower castes literally cannot form their own opinions. Anyone who tries to rebel against a society like that will only be met with opposition, as no one wants their comfy life ruined

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What interesting & original insights does this man provide?
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Minus all the libertarian/stateless society/NAP bullshit, he is very sound. I am just waiting for him to get onto the JQ.
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He's studied no 20th century philosophy whatsoever and actually thinks Aristotle ended the game.

tldr; He's a pleb.
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Look for UPB, his proof of secular morality.

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11 bucks at a used book store.

How'd I do?
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acceptable
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you did shit

military history books are embarrassing and often condradict one another, plus the author injects his political spin into them 9 times out of 10
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>>9009398
>history books are embarrassing and often condradict one another,

Ftfy

That's kinda the point of reading more than one author

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Good books about unrequited love?
Not to cheesy hopefully.
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>>9009370
>to
you get nothing
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Do I even need to say it now?
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Lolita

I wept at the end.

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