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for someone superficially fond of realism and naturalism, you come across as an awfully irate and hyperventilating millenial desu

>>9113885
Realism and Naturalism are both modernist movements desu. All those guys you mentioned are modern

>>9113885
>superficially
no

I couldn't read at all when I was under 1 year old. Am I a pleb?

>>9115073
Feels good, desu

>>9115077
Yes.

>>9113837
I honestly tried to read that but was enraged before I hit like the 5th line.

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To be honest it's a pretty accurate representation of the so randumb years of life

>>9113837
>it's another /lit/ obsesses over a book none of them like episode

I would say autism, but people with actual autism have more self awareness.

>>9113770
Half is

>>9113770
is

>>9113770
>half of it is made of strawberries

Thought it was 'boys will be boys' shite. Glad the American editor had the sense to tell him it was crap and to consign it to the trash heap

>>9113703
>>9113785
I agree it seemed a bit like a "you see, we don't even have to do anything" cop out. Because if you're actually confronted with the dilemma of men who will again and again rape and kill and never reform, the whole "freedom to choose is just human" shit becomes worthless because our only option is to eliminate them, one way or another (killing, prison, therapy).

>>9113785
>>9113821
I agree, it felt fairly lazy

>>9114927
I
Among twenty snowy mountains,
The only moving thing
Was the eye of the blackbird.

II
I was of three minds,
Like a tree
In which there are three blackbirds.

III
The blackbird whirled in the autumn winds.
It was a small part of the pantomime.

IV
A man and a woman
Are one.
A man and a woman and a blackbird
Are one.

V
I do not know which to prefer,
The beauty of inflections
Or the beauty of innuendoes,
The blackbird whistling
Or just after.

VI
Icicles filled the long window
With barbaric glass.
The shadow of the blackbird
Crossed it, to and fro.
The mood
Traced in the shadow
An indecipherable cause.

VII
O thin men of Haddam,
Why do you imagine golden birds?
Do you not see how the blackbird
Walks around the feet
Of the women about you?

VIII
I know noble accents
And lucid, inescapable rhythms;
But I know, too,
That the blackbird is involved
In what I know.

IX
When the blackbird flew out of sight,
It marked the edge
Of one of many circles.

X
At the sight of blackbirds
Flying in a green light,
Even the bawds of euphony
Would cry out sharply.

XI
He rode over Connecticut
In a glass coach.
Once, a fear pierced him,
In that he mistook
The shadow of his equipage
For blackbirds.

XII
The river is moving.
The blackbird must be flying.

XIII
It was evening all afternoon.
It was snowing
And it was going to snow.
The blackbird sat
In the cedar-limbs.

All Greece hates
the still eyes in the white face,
the lustre as of olives
where she stands,
and the white hands.

All Greece reviles
the wan face when she smiles,
hating it deeper still
when it grows wan and white,
remembering past enchantments
and past ills.

Greece sees, unmoved,
God's daughter, born of love,
the beauty of cool feet
and slenderest knees,
could love indeed the maid,
only if she were laid,
white ash amid funereal cypresses.

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>>9114927
The Sleeper
At midnight, in the month of June,
I stand beneath the mystic moon.
An opiate vapor, dewy, dim,
Exhales from out her golden rim,
And softly dripping, drop by drop,
Upon the quiet mountain top,
Steals drowsily and musically
Into the universal valley.
The rosemary nods upon the grave;
The lily lolls upon the wave;
Wrapping the fog about its breast,
The ruin moulders into rest;
Looking like Lethe, see! the lake
A conscious slumber seems to take,
And would not, for the world, awake.
All Beauty sleeps!—and lo! where lies
Irene, with her Destinies!

Oh, lady bright! can it be right—
This window open to the night?
The wanton airs, from the tree-top,
Laughingly through the lattice drop—
The bodiless airs, a wizard rout,
Flit through thy chamber in and out,
And wave the curtain canopy
So fitfully—so fearfully—
Above the closed and fringéd lid
’Neath which thy slumb’ring soul lies hid,
That, o’er the floor and down the wall,
Like ghosts the shadows rise and fall!
Oh, lady dear, hast thou no fear?
Why and what art thou dreaming here?
Sure thou art come o’er far-off seas,
A wonder to these garden trees!
Strange is thy pallor! strange thy dress!
Strange, above all, thy length of tress,
And this all solemn silentness!

The lady sleeps! Oh, may her sleep,
Which is enduring, so be deep!
Heaven have her in its sacred keep!
This chamber changed for one more holy,
This bed for one more melancholy,
I pray to God that she may lie
Forever with unopened eye,
While the pale sheeted ghosts go by!

My love, she sleeps! Oh, may her sleep,
As it is lasting, so be deep!
Soft may the worms about her creep!
Far in the forest, dim and old,
For her may some tall vault unfold—
Some vault that oft hath flung its black
And wingéd pannels fluttering back,
Triumphant, o’er the crested palls
Of her grand family funerals—

Some sepulchre, remote, alone,
Against whose portals she hath thrown,
In childhood, many an idle stone—
Some tomb from out whose sounding door
She ne’er shall force an echo more,
Thrilling to think, poor child of sin!
It was the dead who groaned within.

-Poe

>>9113427
That's pretty cool.

>>9113427
I'm going to come to the footage of him and report back in a few minutes.

Didn't realize it's been an hour but it doesn't matter because I took breaks in between. I came about 4 times to him. ( I'm a female so I can cum as many times as I want to Proust fuck you).

I switched between photos of him and had the video on repeat. On my laptop there was quotes from In Search of Lost Time.

God I love him so much

>>9113216
The book where you see a cute girl buying it and offer to buy it for her and ask to get some coffee with her later to discuss it and other literature.

>>9113216
Never let me go

>>9113216
Eleanor and Park is pretty good for this.

Also Persuasion by Jane Austen.

>Hayek presumably was hoping to stand such an argument on its head, to show that, rather than the only means of counteracting totalitarianism, planning itself constituted a significant step along the way toward the totalitarian state

so the political serfdom in a government means to be entirely ruled by laws, legislature, planning?

if so I can understand this.

>Even if it were to begin as a “liberal socialist” experiment (none of the real-world cases have ever done so, one might add), full-scale planning requires that the planning authorities take over all production decisions; to be able to make any decisions at all, they would need to exercise more and more political control. If one tries to create a truly planned society, one will not be able to separate out control of the economy from political control. This was Hayek’s logical argument against planning, one that he had succinctly articulated in 1939 in “Freedom and the Economic System

How is this man the corner stone of EU economics when what he writes is g*ddamn enarly against everything it stands for

>>9113113
>welfare state
He doesn't mention it.
Also:
>Let a uniform minimum be secured to everybody by all means; but let us admit at the same time that with this assurance of a basic minimum all claims for a privileged security for particular classes must lapse

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>>9114420
I'm gonna dump some reading lists

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>>9114431
Going to dump some Lenin because, agree or disagree, he was very influential and very interesting
t. Ancom

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>>9114440
More of our boi

Amy Liptrot's The Outrun
I haven't read it myself but it seemed interesting from an interview with her I saw, and it's relevant. Hope rehab works out for you m8

>>9112917
good luck anon

Sorry to hear that OP. Not about rehab but about someone struggling with alcoholism, try Under the Volcano. Forewarning though, it is a depressing book. Best of luck, man.

>>9113381
I just read The Loser for the exact same reason. Great book. If you like Gaddis you should definitely read some Bernhard.

>>9113424
Is it very similar to Gaddis? I'm working my way through Frolic now (my last remaining Gaddis) and I still want more.

>>9113381
really recommend to read bernhard (although i dont know about the translation quality). Maybe start with "Frost", "Verstörung", "Das Kalkwerk", "Auslöschung". If you enjoy one of these you can go for pretty much anything else. Haven't read his plays.

>>9112676
Neither, subtext.

Why are they mutually exclusive?

>>9112705

If plot and prose are not synched to subtext the book sucks anyway, therefore, it's all three (at least)

should be named badreads

Bad users good suggestion algorithm

decent enough for cataloguing purposes and recs if you shelf correctly

generally shitty for discussion

look at the "best books ever" list if you want a general idea of the userbase aka normies

Did you just assume my generation?

>>9113050
>why does every generation thinks it knows better than the next?
The real question you should ask OP, is why humans are so fucking adverse to people who think differently.

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>>9113063
Because people who think differently than me are wrong, and if they just used common sense, they'd realize it.