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>I know the mosin nagant is a memegun.
only recently have shitposters begun calling it that
>I asked a coworker who is into guns if I should get one and he said it was ugly,
subjective
>shitty
it varies, but usually they're fine.
>old
irrelevant when it comes to firearms generally
>and the ammo is harder to find because its all surplus.
Several companies are producing new ammo, Privi, Hornady, Wolf, Seller&Belliot (or however thats spelled) and recently Century Arms under the "Red Army Standard" brand, among others.
>Is the mosin actually bad if I want to get into guns?
First gun? get a .22 rifle, then maybe.
Shot before, but never owned? Then yes Mosins are great first rifles. Ammo is cheap enough still that they're good for target shooting (though dont expect to win any competitions), and great for hunting as well since its basically the same size round as a .308/7.62x51 NATO.
>What other guns have comparable stats within its price range?
Currently? Mausers are a good alternative, Yugo M48's are close in price, and there's a fairly large Mauser aftermarket if you want to sporterize it and trigger 90% of /k/. Mauser ammo is fairly expensive though, 60 cents to a dollar a round depending upon what you shoot (compaired to 35-60 cents for mosin ammo)
If you want to spend a little more, then Enfeilds are good surplus bolt guns, though not as easy to find (in large quantities) as mosins or mausers. However they also have expensive ammo ($1 a round usually) and you're basically in the cheap AR-15 price range by then.

>>29529064
>stats

Get an SKS while you can. 7.62x39 is cheap, non corrosive and available everywhere. My Mosin sits collecting dust. You'll get more out of an SKS especially because it sounds like you're a slavaboo.

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>>29529284
>only recently have shitposters begun calling it that
you mean people who got tired as fuck of slavaboos screaming about them up and down /k/ a few years ago, It's a horrible first gun, and its still a bad gun for milsurp because now they're just as expensive as mausers, and price was the only advantage they ever had to begin with, so fuck off.
>subjective
not subjective when they were literally thrown together at the last minute because the soviets couldnt make sub guns fast enough, and the stripper clips are literally shit compared to other guns, hell compared to all over bolt guns of the era, they compare pitifully.
>Several companies are producing new ammo, Privi, Hornady, Wolf, Seller&Belliot (or however thats spelled) and recently Century Arms under the "Red Army Standard" brand
and all of those brands are hard as fuck to find in store unless you find some online and are literally double the price of what the surpo ammo used to be (the shit slavaboos said would never run out but is now)
>Shot before, but never owned? Then yes Mosins are great first rifles. Ammo is cheap enough still that they're good for target shooting (though dont expect to win any competitions), and great for hunting as well since its basically the same size round as a .308
you can get a budget hunting rifle with a budget scope for cheaper than you can a mosin now, and it will be way more accurate and easier to feed, not to mention better made. Also soft points for mosins are near unobtainable unless you get them offline and even then they're sub-par.

Mosins are bad, no two ways about it, do i still like them? yeah they're a piece of history but that doesnt excuse how over-hyped they once were on this board and how terrible they are for the money.

Get a K31, Lee Enfield or etc. if you want a decent surplus gun.
Get a Remington 783, or savage axis if you want a cheap hunting rifle
and please, get a .22 bolt action before you step into a full size rifle if its your first time OP

>>29529063
Curious whether or not you'll get shit for the vape. I quit smoking and switched to vaping (again) almost a month ago, longest time I've quit yet and I have no urge to start again.

>>29529077
I tried it once, didn't like it. Tried it again with a new mod and now I like it. Apparently I'm a weenie who likes his vapes at 200 degrees.

Outside of vaping the only thing I can occasionally smoke anymore is BLACK cloves cigarettes or an occasional cigar.

>>29529132
Split a pack of American Spirit Light Blue's (still full flavor, only difference between dark blue's is organic vs. non organic tobacco) a day with the girlfriend, had tried vaping quite a few times but she never liked it and I couldn't be fucked to constantly drip and re-wick.

I've got an RX200 and Griffin tank now with Clapton coils in it and couldn't be more satisfied. I make my own juice so it's not loaded full of sucralose and chemicals which in turn means I don't have to ever change coils or re-wick. Have had current coils/wick in there for almost two weeks and they're still as clean as the day I put them in.

>>29529012
>instructor
>routine, simple, maybe 6 kilometer ruck march
>all the sudden out of the blue every time I take a step with my right foot it feels like someone is stabbing my foot
>Halfway through the march
>shit shit shit shit
>suck it up to save face
>only start to limp after I dismiss the troops to get shit showered changed for breakfast
>one troop was slow to fuck off and sees me
>"Are you alright MCpl, you're walking funny."
>"WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU IMPLYING PRIVATE?"
>"Nothing Mcpl" and he fucks off

Goddamn that was weird. I hung around all day, subsided the next day, and was gone the day after.

>>29529012
I had that happen. I had just ETSed from 3/75 and joined an NG LRSD. We had a 52 mile hump to McChord AFB. We were cruising along until fat Gomez, SSG type, 1 each, began huffing. He told me and another ranger sergeant to slow down - that we were no longer on active duty. We told him to suck it the fuck up. We were not disciplined. He tried to maintain pace and damn near had a heart attack. That SSG was a total fuck up.

Once, during an infil, we were rappelling in. We were all clear except for him. He somehow got the rope twisted in his carabiner. It was supposed to be a stealth insertion. Instead, due to his lack of diligence, we were completely compromised. We did our best to untangle him. The load master thought we were clear. The chopper started to lift off and we had to scream for him to halt. What a complete nut fuck. After we got him back on the ground and free from the rope, we ran like we stole a television. The enemy was right on top of us but we were lucky to get away.

>>29529198
Sounds like a specific tendon cramp.

Shit is weird.

Bump, please help

>>29528854
You cn't spell wimp without the MP! LOL. Or my favorite, You can't spell MP without the: My wife likes to get fucked in the ass by a big black cock while I'm away on deployment because i'm an MP.

>>29528854
You'll have women in your unit if you are military police. And by god, please trust me, you do not want to deal with fucking females.

Then it'd have a bunch of bombs and rocket pods and stuff.

But it's kind of expensive for that. It has inherent advantages (speed and range) for transport that don't carry over to the CAS role as well.

wouldn't a chinook work better for an attack cargo chopper thing?

What if we made it BIGGER

>>29528724
no downside if you're only going to use it at a range and not in any other situation

I would prefer to have one and not need it if I ever found myself relying on my rifle to protect my life. This will probably never happen. The odds that you will both find yourself in combat and need to use your forward assist are almost zero. Get whatever Gucci shit floats your boat.

With proper maintenance the forward assist is never needed and is most often never even taught as part of the manual of arms for clearing a jam.

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>>29528683
Would a riser screw up accuracy at all?

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IMO you are best off getting a QD mount that you can take off if there is some issue with the scope. You could see through the original claw mounts, but since you have the pic rail on there I dont think its worth looking for such a niche product that probably doesnt exist.

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>>29529351
In all fairness, I have a very niche rifle. I'm torn between getting a QD or putting it on a riser. I just don't know if the riser would introduce a degree of inaccuracy due to it flexing or whatever.

>>29528576
Gun by no gun leftist cartoonist.

Tricked out MAC 10 would be the closest thing, but even that's a stretch. >>29528603 hit it on the head, gun by no gun leftist.

A stylized representation of a gun. The gun itself is irrelevant, it's the idea of a gun.

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>>29528520
Fuck a harem of Traps.

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Not to have cancer?

NFA repealed would be nice too.

>>29528520
Every wehraboo/slavaboo/vatnik/sjw is blasted off into space

CYKA BLYAT

"I GUESS I'LL HAVE ANOTHER BAGUETTE" seriously, what is this guy saying??

>>29529456

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlQ6KqTlyfk

>>29528135
Yes do you want recommendations

>>29528135
>$12,600
This is your budget or this is all the money you have to your name?

Also
>school shooter

>>29528145
Please.

>>29528032
Shameless bump.

>>29528032
I was gonna get one, but the non-handle cut reciever turned me off, so I bought a PTR-91 GI instead and gonna save for a parts kit or something

>>29528527
Problem I have is PTR's,H&K 91's are not very lefty friendly.

YouTube just recommended some video about him trying to apologize for one of his instructors having an ND during a class. Seemed funny.

>>29527915
It's name is Buck Angel, look it up, that's all you need to know.

>>29527925
Is that the one where he shot out a guys tires?

M&P is a fine pistol. The same can be said of Glocks, VP9, or any other pistol in that price range.

Your best bet would be to go to a range that allows you to rent pistols and rent a few and see which one fits your hands the best.

>>29527895
Like >>29527910 said, go out and try as many as you can. Originally I was going to buy either a glock 19 or a Walther p99, ended up choosing the sig p320 because I liked how it felt the best. Everyone's gonna r ecco mend what works for then and what they hear works, but what matters most is what you think of it and how it feels to you.

Thank you both! Much appreciated, it's really confusing as a newer person and everyone is saying one company sucks and another is the best just wanted to make sure I wasn't going to fall for a sales gimmick lol

>>29527849
I really wish I hadn't signed my contract with the army, holy shit. If I had seen this I would have held off.

Update #2 is here:
https://desustorage.org/k/thread/29359173/

>>29527849
What's the pay?