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Let's have a thread about the turbo-autism and Russian wewuzzing that is Fomenko's New Chronology.
Also, general alternative chronology thread (Phantom time hypothesis, etc.).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Chronology_(Fomenko)

The basic claims:
>classical history as we know it was invented by a conspiracy of classical humanists, florentine bankers, and the papacy because reasons.
>to create this false history, the conspiracists created multiple iterated copies (that he calls "phantom reflections") of the actual historical events of the 11th-15th centuries with the same characters, places, and events under different names. Jesus was actually a Byzantine emperor, Solomon the Wise is a phantom copy of Suleiman the magnificent, etc.
>Russians wuz Scythians, Mongols, Huns, and any other steppe empire of consequence.

These books have sold over a million copies in Russia, thanks partly to an endorsement from Garry Kasparov.
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>>2889805
Reminds me a lot of that whole "middle ages never happened" conspiracy theory
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_time_hypothesis
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>>2889815
But much more autistic. He claims they made up literally thousands of years of history. And it's based on cherry picked "statistical analysis" of dates and monarch reign lengths that's supposed to prove that history is just 4 copies of one set of events.

Also,
> For the New Chronologists, peoples such as the Ukrainians, Belarusians, Mongols, and others who assert their national independence from Russia, are suffering from a historical delusion.

>Official Russian history is a blatant forgery concocted by a host of German scholars brought to Russia to legitimize the usurping Romanov dynasty (1613–1917)

Why is Russian nationalism such strong blend of conspiracy theories and civilizational envy?
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Pseudoscientific slavshit delusion.

What are your thoughts on the theory that the gladiators were mostly vegan?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FOWSc8VvOl4
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>>2889754

It's a scientifically proven fact, veganism makes your rib cage and skull almost twice as strong as most humans, this has been proven by hundreds of scientific studies. Clearly this (along with faster healing and greater speed) gave vegans a significant advantage.
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It was probably way easier back then, meat was expensive and dairy didn't stay good for long. Bread, porridge and some vegetables is probably what most people ate anyways
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>>2889754
what was their protein source?

What are some historical red pills that many modern day historians intentionally omit from their studies?

My personal favorite is the fact that the US government imported some of the most heinous nazis known in the history of mankind just to get their help with building a bomb.
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>>2889537
.t idiot

Paperclip was started AFTER the trinity test.
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>>2889537

who is this?
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Xenia is a whore

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Why didn't the Soviet Union create a new language to unite all the people?
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>>2889507
Because it was a thinly disguised Russian Empire with communist characteristics.
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What? Because they had everyone speak russian. People still speak russian in the former USSR. Have you had your covfefe yet anon?
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It did. Its called russian. Its spoken in Kazaksthan,Belarus, most -Stan countries atleast has a pretty big minority speaking russian. Also Balt countries has a big russian minority

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Do you give Historical figures more slack in regards to immoral behavior?

For instance, Alexander the great once rekt Persepolis when he was drunk. Can you like Alexander the great despite that terrible thing he had done?

Stalin and Vlad the impaler have their fans today, what do you think of that?
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>>2889320
>Do you give Historical figures more slack in regards to immoral behavior?

Of course, if they were raised in cultures thousands of years where their shit was considered acceptable such as slavery, war rape and wanton butchery. Everyone is a product of their time.

What I cannot abide is people doing that sort of stuff after the Enlightenment. People like Stalin were disgustingly evil, because unlike the ancients they didn't convince themselves what they were doing was for the greater good.
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How old are you? Historical figures aren't your friends, nobody gives a shit whether you "like" them or not.
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>>2889336
Moron, the question is about the morality beliefs of the people posting here, not their personal relationships with long dead people.

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Was Muhammad (pbuh) the single most influential person in history?
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>>2889266
>who is Jesus
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>>2889268
Some random hobo who got killed for preaching heresy
Christianity as we know it was actually created by early Christians.
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>>2889279

Proof?

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more like this please
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The format right? Or commie memes?
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>>2889147
that format with the wrestler guy
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>>2889147
commie memes.
Commie memes are the funniest

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*completely destroys all theological and spiritual credibilty of protestantism 3 centuries before it was invented*
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>>2889016
How so?
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The world is --> God is

Bravo, Thomas.
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>>2889016

This is just more Muh Historicism Means It's Right memeing from 4chan, without any intellectual substance.

People glom onto Aquinas because they want to be "traditional" in some sense in order to be contrary to the present day; Aquinas is the avatar of that, but he doesn't actually prove anything in his writings. After all, he's writing about theology.

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Are people born wicked, or do they have wickedness thrust upon them?
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>>2888643

Wickedness is a spook. Even a psychopath is just playing the hand fate dealt him.
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Sometines in a mans life he comes to a decision where he must cut off his foot to save his leg, or something similar.
Like a rock and a hard place, or the lesser of two evils.

But what ever dicision he makes he is forced to commit to that decision.
Wickedness is not seeing any escape, or any alternate route. Saying you've gone too far to go back so you might as well walk all the way into the fire and burn yourself up.
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>>2888694
Damn nigga that's deep

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"Abdul, please teach me the Quran"

-Queen Victoria
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>>2888405
The absolute state of S*xons
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Vicky loved the BPD (big paki dick)
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>>2888405
"Let them eat- nothing."
Queen Victoria on the Boers

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Why exactly does the Chinese Government suppress discussion of this incident when lefties and liberals got BTFO?

Shouldn't they actually be celebrating it?
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>>2888333
Chinese government likes to cover up many of its wrong doings in the past and present because people won't follow the government as devoutly if they are shown to be corrupt murderers

t. From China originally
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>>2888333
nice double trips
would say that anything that triggers discussion about why rebelling is right or wrong isnt well appreciated in those kind os systems
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>>2888333

You're such an idiot. It's painful.

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Is he essentially the start and end point for modern philosophy? Nietzsche and all those that came after him are completely nonessential, Stirner is literally all you need
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>>2888321
Yes. A legend.

/thread
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>>2888321
No. A joke.

/thread
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“The Christian has spiritual interests, because he allows himself to be a spiritual man; the Jew does not even understand these interests in their purity, because he does not allow himself to assign no value to things. He does not arrive at pure spirituality, a spirituality such as is religiously expressed, e. g., in the faith, of Christians, which alone (i. e. without works) justifies. Their unspirituality sets Jews forever apart from Christians; for the spiritual man is incomprehensible to the unspiritual, as the unspiritual is contemptible to the spiritual. But the Jews have only "the spirit of this world.”

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How bad did the Mongol fuck up Islamic world?
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>>2888307
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj-10lIrboM
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>>2888307
Not as bad as Islam was doing to itself. The Muslim world was shit for 2 centuries before the Mongols came.

And after the mongs, this fucking happened.
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I remember reading somewhere that Iran is only now reaching the population levels it had before the steppeniggers visited them.

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Friendly reminder
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Not so friendly reminder...
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>>2887976
>Burning a church will destroy the Christian faith
Come now sweetie. In pic related that "god" was literally killed in your little pagan mind ;)
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>>2887987
>owwwweee, why?

>won against France
>won against the USA
>won against China
>liberated Cambodia from the Red Khmers

Why were they so successful?
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>>2887933
Because they knew their political objectives and used military force to obtain them.

They followed Clauswitz's maxim "War is the continuation of politics" to the letter.

You don't need to outgun the enemy to win a war, you just need to get what you want and ensure the enemy doesn't get what they want.

In the case of France ad the USA, the goal was respectively maintain newfound independence and unite South Vietnam respectively. In the case of China, it was to bungle its punitive war. In the case of Cambodia, it was to install a government that would not engage in border raids.

When your goals are straightforward and meaningful to you and you are willing to fight for them, you have one element of a future victory.
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>>2887933
because they're on their fucking land
try winning the above three on somewhere other than dense ass jungle
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>>2888367
>be a world power
>get cucked from a jungle
how can someone recover from this

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