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I don't get it ya'll, is Tradition basically just Plato's Republic with some Neoplatonism thrown in?
I don't get the argument for hierarchical societies. Apparently it's supposed to correspond to the spiritual, which makes life out to be some sort of metaphysical onion. I find The Republic way more convincing than a bunch of polemics about society not corresponding to some spiritual hierarchy based on Tradition, that in itself is literally indefinable or at best relativistic. Am I misunderstanding something here?
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You're missing that the vast majority of people historically were retards, the vast majority today are retards and in the future the vast majority of people will continue to be retards ;)
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Tradition is a spook.
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>>1656570
Everything is a spook you pleb
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>The Holy Roman Empire is no more
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>Holy
>Roman
>Empire
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>>1656577
Wow being really original there mate
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Post British philosophers.
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I don't really see a whole lot of them on this board.
Pic related, it's Edmund Burke.
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What does post British entail?
Does John Locke count?
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>>1656395
Yes
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>>1656385
John Stuart Mill was pretty aight
I think we can all agree that Lucius Cornelius Sulla did nothing wrong.
Gracchans and Marians can fuck off desu.
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He was right all along
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>>1656361
What about Caesar's criticism of him as being a bit of a faggot for having given up dictatorial powers once he'd received them? Could we have had a Principate a few decades earlier if he'd just clung to power, taken all comers, and won out in the end?
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>>1656361
>did nothing wrong
>literally became the template for "how to fuck over Rome by becoming a military strongman" utilised by usurpers down to the 14th century
Literal retard.
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Why are countries closest to the equator so shit?
Conversely, why do temperate/cool conditions always thrive best?
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>>1656340
Read Guns, Germs and Steel
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>>1656340
The genetic results of those environments create the people better at civilization.
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Why do all civilizations come from the subtropics then?
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If aliens were to land and make first contact with us publicly how do you think people would react?
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>>1656305
I would shoot those fucking spaceniggers to kingdom come.
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>>1656305
Stupid and unintentionally arrogant...sturrogant
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The fetish industry would be overjoyed.
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Can we talk about Art History on this board?
/ic/ is just fan art/realism techniques
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>>1656297
No we CANNOT talk about "Art History" on this board.
This isn't even /his/, this belongs more on /po/, than on here.
So why don't you get out and leave my board alone, NORMAN.
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I think this picture is neat, what do you guys think?
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>>1656302
> this belongs more on /po/, than on here.
no it doesnt
/ic/ is like fucking deviant art
they hate any style of art that isnt realism and they lack understanding of fine art aesthetics
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Was he right? Were the Catholics evil?
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>>1656288
>evil
Such a spook
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He was totally wrong and caused far more harm than good. The Protestant "Reformation" is half the reason Christianity died off in Europe.
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>>1656310
t. Charles V
Why is 'manipulative' a pejorative?
If I manipulate someone into being happy or achieving their goals then surely that's a good, likely altruistic thing.
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It implies you tricked someone into taking away their freedom temporarily by making them do what you want, and we all know how everybody gets about their freedoms.
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whats the point of this question
are you asking about the origins of the word
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1. Because odds are you don't manipulate people for good reasons. If it was that good you'd be able to just teach them and bring them closer to their goals without the need for manipulation.
2. Because manipulation is often used as a negative force to negate the freedom of someone for the benefit of the one doing the manipulating. There's a reason why all cultures and people hate it and why we are hardwired to some degree to spot it and avoid it. An altruistic action would not require manipulation to be done. And if it does? Then you really have to wonder how good it is.
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Did ancient generals really decide to fight or not based on divination, or were they just manipulating the idiot peasants?
I imagine it was a mix, but was it mainly one way or the other?
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The Oracle of Delphi was an institution whose respect was pan-Hellenic, and so were their riches.
This is a condensed version of what prof. Donald Kagan said in the Open Yale Course on Ancient Greece.
You go on a pilgrimage to Delphi, visit the Oracle, but there's a queue. You want to skip the queue, so you talk to the priest, bribe him with food and offers, talk to him, he hears the latest news from you.
Once you're in the presence of the oracle, she'll speak in tongues, the priest will tell you the latest news he heard from the guy that came before you.
That's how the Oracle of Delphi was so accurate in its predictions, the best in all Greece.
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>>1656202
That's fascinating, I'll have to read more about it.
What about battlefield omens? Killing the goat to see if you could attack, and such? Surely they can't benefit from the same sort of extra knowledge.
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>>1656215
Again, interpreters and priests can deliver their secular, wordly knowledge or opinion too.
What are the sources to say that the Nazis were serious about the Generalplan Ost and Lebensraum to ethnically cleanse Slavs to create space for the master race?
I thought this was a real thing but I got told that it's a meme supported by one shady document and is anti-nazi propaganda...
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From what I've read, Hitler said he wanted to enslave the Slavs in Mein Kampf. Or treat them as Helots. Which would help explain his ultimately fatal backstabbing of Stalin, and the Nazi treatment of Soviet prisoners.
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It's all a big jewish lie, the nazis weren't serious about Generalplan Ost, the massive killings of the civilan population was just a bit of banter.
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> Comrade Ivan, how's your job treating you? Is it true that in glorious Soviet Union unemployment never exceeded 1-2%?
>Da. It is true.
>And you get free vodka and cabbage by the government?
>Da. Hard to believe, this I know.
>Wow do I sure feel gypped living in a capitalist country and having it all go to the 1%!
People actually think the Soviet Union sucked ahaha cucks.
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>>1656111
Proof it didn't suck?
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Imagine being an artist, musician or having some other gift from God that doesn't make a lot of money in a Capitalist society.
>don't have to starve
>don't have to beg on the streets
>don't have to ignore your gift from God in order to make money for the man
It would be fucking heaven on Earth.
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>>1657100
>imagine being a useless piece of shit and have your existence guaranteed anyways
Wow, you really sold me communism.
>you're an Anglo-Saxon peasant in 1066
>you have to work the fields all day, but your lord is cool and you have a loving wife
>Harold fucks up, some faggot from Normandy is the new King of England
>your lord is sacked and replaced with a fucking asshat that only speaks French and treats you like a slave
>your wife is raped by Norman soldiers and commits suicide because of the shame
>your life is ruined
>hear that the Greek Emperor is recruiting mercenaries and is willing to accept Anglo-Saxons
>sneak out and join up
>company is absolutely full of dispossessed Anglo peasants like yourself
>feel more at home in Constantinople than you ever could in England
>Emperor sends you to protect his holdings in southern Italy, they're being conquered by someone
>show up
>IT'S ANOTHER MOTHERFUCKING NORMAN
>your latent Viking genetics send you into berserker mode
>lose anyway
>get stabbed by some Norman faggot
>bleed to death hundreds of miles from home
>FUCKING NORMANS
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Shit meme tbqh
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>>1655954
NORMANS, NOOORMAAAANNNNSS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>1656313
this.
I have a suspicion its mostly perpetuated by posters who found 4chan through r9k because of 'rare pepes' less than 3 years ago. A very sorry lot.
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>I am a descendant of Genghis Khan
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>being proud of being descended from a rape baby
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>>1655937
Did you know that 1 in every 200 men is descended to Genghis KHAAAAAAAN?
So literally right now, if we measure the population of /his/, which I think is about 500, about 2.5 people are descendants of Genghis KHAAAAAAAN.
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>>1655988
two and a half men
WWI thread.
I'm reading/listening to "Now it can Be told" and it's tragic.
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