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>>1888264

Take a long hard look at some eastern european, balkan and emerging western nationalist movements today and ask yourself if we're really that far removed from a similar fate today.

The short answer is however that none of the dictatorships you mentioned had any democratic tradition to begin with. So for them, authoritarian leaders were the norm.

>>1888275
> The short answer is however that none of the dictatorships you mentioned had any democratic tradition to begin with.

Italy unified as a liberal nation state akin to the French Republic

>>1888264

Economic crisis was one, national tensions was another, the rise of far left/ far right groups was a cause (both were born out of eachother).

Spain is not remotely a "shithole." In fact they've never been better off. But to answer your real question about their fall in RELATIVE wealth since the 1500s, it's because they were operating under the incorrect economic assumption that gold = wealth.

>>1888149
The same way all companies crumble

>>1888149

It was never the richest country on Earth, one of the richest if you wish.
Its one of the richests countries on Earth today.

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>tfw too smart for ideologies

>>1888147
Dont lie on the internet m8 you are either a retarded NEET or an useless autist

the average human is by definition average, though I understand what you're saying.

I guess most people's knee jerk answer to this is supposed to be fascism, but ironically fascism is supposed to guarantee universal suffrage and higher worker representation via syndicates.

Pretty classy.

>>1888094
My uncle has a doctorate in classics, it's pretty intensive from what I understand, it's also hard to get a job outside academia if your post grad is classics.

I'm sure if you did undergrad that somewhat would be useful for biology or a medical field where Latin is commonly used.

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>>1888094
Picture a Tick. All it is a parasite leeching off a greater being.

That is all a Classics major is. A parasite leeching off society (welfare).

If you are not STEM don't even bother with school.

Dont know much but in Storm of steel the author mentions that they that is germans had been living on nothing but bread and coarse jam for months in 1918.

>>1888045
>like say Serbia
t. serbian
do your own research m8

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>>1888045
Serbian soldier on Corfu 1916.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbian_army%27s_retreat_through_Albania

Not the best, his pro-byzantine bias is famous. But other than that, I found it a nice read.

>>1888609
got any better recs for the crusades?

look for Rene Grousset

>>1888001
>more harsher

84 years to top this.

jews funding the russian revolution

hitler and facism wouldve never even come to power

>>1888007
> jews funding the russian revolution
(((Germans))), actually.

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>>1887996
You know why.

>>1888002
>average man
>6 feet

>>1888010
t. Manlet

This may not be a great suggestion because I'm a casual, but Tolkien's translation of Beowulf comes with a collection of lecture notes on his old English course which translates Beowulf. They're a bit scattered, but it's something

>>1887833
I've been meaning to read his translation, so I'll pick that up. Thanks

>>1887842
I enjoyed it, and even quickly comparing it to other translations, he put a lot of effort into making the poem flow, while other translations tend to just translate with no thought put into the end result. It's really nice

>>1887771
Society is no longer based around the sacred.
Read the book (the prologue will do) there's really no ambiguity.

>>1887782
But it is though. Human rights and democracy are sacred now instead of God.

You have to read the full parable of the mad man to get a clearer picture.

Most people tend to interpret it as Nietzsche making a primarily cultural criticism of his time. The mad man goes out at dawn with a lantern asking for where God is, and people who do not believe in God start responding to him almost mockingly like, "Did you lose him? Is he hiding?" etc. The mad man (assumingly Nietzsche) proceeds to go on about us being the murderers of God, the murderers of murderers, and starts to hypothetically question the ramifications of such a deed. He ends it off saying that he came too soon and the news has not reached everyone else yet; similar scenarios happen in Zarathustra where Zarathustra gives speeches and then concludes that people do not have the right ears to hear what he is saying.

I think it is a bit more than just a cultural criticism. I think it's more a philosophical one, which ties into everything else, including culture. God, i.e. the symbol of the Other and the "objective" and the "definite" and whatever is meant to be reliable and constant in our worldview and consciousness, has been annihilated by our philosophical musings. For Nietzsche, the Dionysian is triumphant; the floodgates of perspectivism open to us a realm that is completely absent from God, the culmination of all ordering forces, the Apollonian. Our musings in philosophy and in science lead us to this.

Not to say that there is only chaos now. More like, order and chaos are now inseparable. The world is a massive whirlpool of will, an eternally recurring storm, this will's nature being will to power and only this. And the mad man asks, mustn't we make ourselves appear as gods so we are worthy of the deed of killing God?

Would appreciate hearing others' thoughts on it.

>>1887694
>Why is he so hated here?
Because he was pretty inconsistent in his theology, wanted to remove the Catholic reverence for Reason and the Greek philosophers from his religion, once killed a priest for disagreeing with him and doomed Europe to who knows how many centuries of infighting. Yet normies worship the fuck out of him. Same with Mother... apologies, "Saint" Theresa.

>Doesn't he had righteous points in criticizing the catholic Christendom?
Yeah, not even modern Catholics contest that. Hell, even contemporary Catholics had a lot of issues with the Church (Dante saying for example that hell is full of popes). The real problem is that rather than going for reform (like many others before him), he opted for schism purely because his paymasters favored that solution.

>I mean the pope could have just adapted to Luthers claims, but being a corrupt and heretic Italian cunt he obviously rather chose to further weaken Christendom.
They did though, partially. The valid criticisms were adopted and the full retard criticisms were rejected. That's what the whole Council of Trent and Counterreformation was for.

His beliefs drove away Christianity from contemplation, reflexion and experiencing the Living God.

He also was way too fundamentalist, saying only the Bible should be used and believed, discarding oral traditions and folklore fully integrated since more one millennia, enforcing dogmatism and radicalism.

>>1887694
If Luther was properly a "church reformer", he would not have run cowering to corrupt secular power and try and establish a parallel fake church.

It shows weakness in faith that he would do everything in his power to avoid martyrdom, if the Catholic authorities were actually working against God.

Catholicism gets stronger by its martyrs, Protestantism got stronger by making martyrs of Catholics. A simple study of history will show this.

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Horse memorial vandalized in SA because it is a symbol of colonialism

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memorial in France

>TITus

He he

>>1887531
Exdee

>>1887531
Is it pronounced TEE-tus or TIE-tus?

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>>1887449

>>1887449
>>1887452
if you don't want privilege checking then fuck back to /pol/ classcuck

>>1887452
Haha that Fred Perry polo. What post-colonial privilege.