Old English

This may not be a great suggestion because I'm a casual, but Tolkien's translation of Beowulf comes with a collection of lecture notes on his old English course which translates Beowulf. They're a bit scattered, but it's something

>>1887833
I've been meaning to read his translation, so I'll pick that up. Thanks

>>1887842
I enjoyed it, and even quickly comparing it to other translations, he put a lot of effort into making the poem flow, while other translations tend to just translate with no thought put into the end result. It's really nice

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Fuck Old English

t. Guilliam le Conqueror

Whats easier, Latin or Ancient Greek? Should I learn first modern or ancient Greek?

>>1888561
To quote a Latin professor, "the point of this course is to teach you Latin, and English". As a native English speaker, I assume Latin is easier

>>1888571
Seconding this. 10+ years of latin in school, and I learned more about English from that than from any English course I took.

>>1888561
If you're a native English speaker, then Latin will be much easier. Regardless of your native language, you should learn Latin before Greek.

>>1888561
Definitely Latin before Greek. The alphabet is familiar, and the grammar is a good deal more straightforward (no middle voice or aorist tense).

some of it still survives

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScELaXMCVis

>>1889365
Too bad the last traces will be gone in a couple of generations, just like Manx and Cornish if the revivals don't pick up.

>>1887827
I suspect you saved this gif from me on /int/

>>1887827
I'm taking a course on the History of the English Language next semester and I'm pretty stoked

Is it true that Frisian is the closest relative of English? I speak both English and German and want to learn Dutch, so i've noticed many similarities from both languages.

How close is Frisian to modern Dutch anyway?

>>1890848
What do you think of Williaum le Conquerunt and his 1066 reforms of the English language?

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>>1890871
>Is it true that Frisian is the closest relative of English?

Of Old English maybe
The closest relative of post-1066 English is French

>>1890877
Eh. I happen to like Middle English quite a bit; the real damage came from the fact that the Norman Conquest set back English literature about 300 years.

The real trouble came in the Early Modern period when all of those Renaissance fags started piling on the Greek- and Latinisms. That's where our language got fucked

>>1890880
dumb frog
>ist gestattet
learn 2 passive voice

>>1888888

>>1890871
>Is it true that Frisian is the closest relative of English?
Yes in case of genetics and the native Anglo-Saxon vocabulary

>>1890896
>Norman Conquest set back English literature about 300 years
That's a bit silly, the Normans brought many changes to the literature including religiosity, culture, and genre. The changes persisted even after French/Latin gave way to English writing.

>>1893337
What I mean to say is that actual English-language literature almost disappeared overnight after the Norman conquest and it took centuries to make a return to its former prominence

>>1888561
>current year
>not opting for Sanskrit
You're a bigot, Harry

>>1889365
Odd, it sounds like a Yorkshire accent mixed with Cornish