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>This isn't a shitty mem-

>>2035404
>Getting abducted before even saying cand-

>>2035411
I completely forgot candle jack was a meme

“I could not affirm,” says the father of history, Herodotus, “whether the Creeks derived from the Egyptians the contempt which they have for work, because I find the same contempt established among the Thracians, the Cythians, the Persians, the Lydians; in a word, because among most barbarians, those who learn mechanical arts and even their children are regarded as the meanest of their citizens. All the Greeks have been nurtured in this principle, particularly the Lacedaemonians.”

“At Athens the citizens were veritable nobles who had to concern themselves but with the defense and the administration of the community, like the savage warriors from whom they descended. Since they must thus have all their time free to watch over the interests of the republic, with their mental and bodily strength, they laid all labor upon the slaves. Likewise at Lacedaemon, even the women were not allowed to spin or weave that they might not detract from their nobility.”

The Romans recognized but two noble and free professions, agriculture and arms. All the citizens by right lived at the expense of the treasury without being constrained to provide for their living by any of the sordid arts (thus, they designated the trades), which rightfully belonged to slaves. The elder Brutus to arouse the people, accused Tarquin, the tyrant, of the special outrage of having converted free citizens into artisans and masons.

>>2035410
The ancient philosophers had their disputes upon the origin of ideas but they agreed when it came to the abhorrence of work. “Nature,” said Plato in his social utopia, his model republic, “Nature has made no shoemaker nor smith. Such occupations degrade the people who exercise them. Vile mercenaries, nameless wretches, who are by their very condition excluded from political rights. As for the merchants accustomed to lying and deceiving, they will be allowed in the city only as a necessary evil. The citizen who shall have degraded himself by the commerce of the shop shall be prosecuted for this offense. If he is convicted, he shall be condemned to a year in prison; the punishment shall be doubled for each repeated offense.”

In his Economics, Xenophon writes, “The people who give themselves up to manual labor are never promoted to public offices, and with good reason. The greater part of them, condemned to be seated the whole day long, some even to endure the heat of the fire continually, cannot fail to be changed in body, and it is almost inevitable that the mind be affected.” “What honorable thing can come out of a shop?” asks Cicero. “What can commerce produce in the way of honor? Everything called shop is unworthy an honorable man. Merchants can gain no profit without lying, and what is more shameful than falsehood? Again, we must regard as something base and vile the trade of those who sell their toil and industry, for whoever gives his labor for money sells himself and puts himself in the tank of slaves.”

Plato and Aristotle wish the citizens of their ideal republics to live in the most complete leisure, for as Xenophon observed, “Work takes all the time and with it one has no leisure for the republic and his friends.” According to Plutarch, the great claim of Lycurgus, wisest of men, to the admiration of posterity, was that he had granted leisure to the citizens of Sparta by forbidding to them any trade whatever.

NEET masterrace

>>2035386
they were tolerant and progressive if you ignore the mass rape, genocide, and cultural destruction they conducted across the largest landmass on earth

>>2035393
So sort of like this?
>Wander to an area because sheep are hungry
>See good food and wimmins.
>"HEY GUYS LOOKS LIKE A GOOD TIME"
>Grabs handful of food and a tit.
>"Don't be a fucking cuckservative, let's all have a good time"
>Slits husband's throat

>>2035402
Yep and liberals celebrate this because they weren't white

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>>2035307
I think the first 2.5 scenarios would prolly lead to one another. The Russian invasion would no doubt be later and only if communist sentiments were something that gave Stalin a reason to expand.

But why would Hitler betray his allies?

>>2035361
He wants revenge fôr ww1 but really I made it becaûse it's so unexpected nazis hated soviets. So I'm curious what everyone's reactions would be if something out of left field happened.

>>2035307

this isn't /althis/

>>>/x/

>>2035040

I find she's great to troll British leftists with.

Go up to someone and say

>We need more women in politics. Our best PM ever was a woman.

And most people start choking.

Accepting economic reality triggers the leftist so she will always be a pariah.

>pointless expensive war to save some shithole islands in the middle of nowhere
>fails to save hong kong from the chinese

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Why do physicists bother to try having opinions about ethics when they can't even solve the trolley problem?

>>2034830
Chess isn't a children's game. It has a huge possibility space which makes it extremely difficult to solve.

If you mean checkers, it is solved.

>>2034848
/lit/ and /v/ solved the trolley problem in a joint effort years ago

>>2034758
Phalanx my dude

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>>2034758
The closest I can think of is the Italian Pavesare...who held his own spear alongside the bigass shield he was carrying.

Otherwise: NO. It isn't sensible. You know what those shields represent? Hollow spaces where cunts can run up and fuck the formation up. IRL Medieval pike formations filled the gap between pikes with -yes- ANOTHER pike, held by guys behind the guys up front. That way, no smart alecks can run between spears and shake dudes up close.

>>2034765

No phalanx that I can think of had a line of guys who just held big shields and no spear.

>>2034593
Bit chubby

>>2034593
Why is Marianne dressed in yank?

w-what does she want

>>2034500
>>>/pol/

>be Nazi
>be notorious for attention to detail and efficiency
>be fighting a complicated and complex war
>require country to run extremely efficiently to pull off victory
>waste resources building camps
>waste resources constructing massive industrial gas chambers
>waste resources constructing massive ovens
>waste resources supplying camps and officers to oversee them
>waste trains to transport Jews to camps
>waste trains to transport gas to camps

Uh huh.

It's not like Europe ever understood the whole "democracy" thing outside of Switzerland.

>>2034356
Nothing to talk about

>>2034356
He does to the people in psychiatric clinics.

>>2034356
He holds rallies every week or so, or atleast he did during the election.

>>2034297
Cannae

>>2034395
Lepanto

>>2034297
this could literally be any envelopment with cavalry and auxiliary

>>2034142
>What brought down this beauty?

Turks n shiet

>Could it have survived if it stayed a republic?

Absolutely not

>>2034142
The entire economy rested on conquest, when there was no profitable land left to conquer, they had nothing but a capital filled to the brim with lazy foreigners

>>2034142
Realistically, they only could have survived if they did decades if not centuries of complete social overhaul and reorganization in order to stay a stable empire.

And no, it was even more volatile as a Republic.

they abandoned even lip service to Marxism in the 90s

fun fact there are five major parties in norkor competing for votes

le real communist meme

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>anything related to race is fascist

And they're most likely state supercapitalists.

>>2034044
Joseph "Rage Quit" Goebbels

>>2034044
cucking yourself for your ideology takes alot of effort...or does it?

>>2034044
wait was he a cuck? What is this referring to?

>>2030742
>didn't take Rome
Into the trash it goes

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>>2030760
>Took Rome
>Rome looked like pic related.
>Gave it to the Pope so he would crown him Emperor

Seems like a pretty good deal if you ask me.

>>2030760
Charlemagne's sons didn't need to take Rome you fucking dicklicker.

The Pope was already an ally to these nations already.