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Who anti-theist here?
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>>2034333
antichrist?
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I used to be, then I realized it's not worth arguing with cultural Christians who don't care about their own beliefs beyond token observance during holidays incorporated into the sphere of the American civic religion.
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>>2034343
'Cultural' christians are still christian and they normalize theism.

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When I read about history, one of the things that fascinates me most is when i hear a new fact or a new interpretation/new perspective on things that i already knew about and then suddenly become able to feel, for a moment, what it must have been like to be there at that time (pic related). in those moments i am really transported into a different reality and imo it's one of the most mind-blowing experiences you can get from studying anything

sometimes i get this kind of feeling from historical music and i'm always looking for songs/pieces that feel very old and authentic and give me a glimpse of "the real past" that i rarely get normally. music that connects you to something strong and old and real.

a lot of the songs like this that i've found are christian church hymns but i'm open to hearing old music from any culture. the main criteria is that it somehow connects you to something "old and powerful"

some examples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-8A-TWCwp4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiBiEcxLqsY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG0xARoDlZw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op3w3wMqdwg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NA1b8TeMNI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lnxs_DMUDk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwLLdqR5BFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLXd2wl2f-Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sYHkDsOUCQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nDmV29v0Is&t=1m38s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTu_Jreo1SQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvhYdOG0Sms

i just realized some of those examples actually aren't very old at all, so i guess just post any historical music that you like
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Hope you're still around, just saw this thread. You posted some good stuff here anon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw1tWUNI2cA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfoBQIZ0Yns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7pXijWA6kI

If you like music from the Caucuses this guy has some deep cuts
https://www.youtube.com/user/MUSHWAN1
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ulg1ahV552g

ottoman military march from 15th century
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>>2034271
Especially when it comes to old music (i.e. the period from the middle ages to the late baroque - basically anything pre-classical that isn't 'ancient') there are plenty of ensembles, conductors and directors who are trying to recreate the music as it was.

The term you're looking for is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historically_informed_performance.

When it comes to protagonists, you already have some in your list. Jordi Savall is one of them for example. You might also want to look up Vincent Dumestre, William Christie or Jean Tubéry, to drop some names. If you enter these in youtube and go by related links you should get a good list of interpretors and composers together to supply you for quite a while.

As a Chinese man rediscovering true Chinese history and culture. I want a suggestion on good and essential books on the Kuomintang (Chinese nationalism)
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>>2034265
>Kuomintang
Fuck off bourgeois reactionary!
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>>2034265
wei wu kangzh - zhang shuy
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>>2034272
>mainland shill detected

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So if some how the last major extinction event had not occurred, and species like Mammoth had survived, would civilization still have arisen?

Would it have taken longer or shorter amount to have reached the technological level we have now?
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>>2034148
we would've hunted them to extinction anyway

I want to say it wouldn't have mattered much, the the butterfly effect applies here
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>>2034148
https://answersingenesis.org/answers/books/frozen-in-time/genesis-flood-caused-the-ice-age/
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>>2034148
The Aboriginals made hundreds of species of megafauna extinct 50,000 years before the English came by.

The Aboriginals did not start a civilization anyway as there was no domesticable animals.

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This heretic walks up to you, takes your city and has weird sex orgies with multiple women. What do /his/?
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> weird sex orgies with multiple women
You envy this, don't you?

This is the basic psychology of Christianity and Second Temple Judaism.

Others have riches. Rich people will go to hell!
Others are getting laid. Sex is sinful!
Other nations have kingdoms. All nations are evil!
Etc. Etc. Etc.

Nietzsche was right.
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>>2034106
DUDE P*SSY LMAO
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>>2034112
Greeks are studying nature and society.

The philosophy of the Greeks is evil!

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I was reading about Jospeh Smith's profecies and is pretty scary guys
>New York destroyed: New York and Boston will be destroyed if they reject the gospel. The "hour of their judgement is nigh".
9/11 and the Boston marathon attack
>Civil War: there will be a war between the northern states and the southern states beginning in South Carolina; the southern states will call upon Great Britain for assistance; that after this, war will be "poured out on all nations"; and that "slaves shall rise up against their masters, who shall be marshaled and disciplined for war".
Predicted the civil war 30 years earlier
>Stars fall from heaven: According to Philo Dibble, while preaching in Kirtland, Ohio, Smith said, "Forty days shall not pass and the stars shall fall from heaven."
A metheor shower happened 40 days later
>Wind up in 56 Years "[T]he coming of the Lord, which is nigh—even fifty-six years should wind up the scene."
Hitler was born 56 years later
>"You will see the Constitution of the United States almost destroyed. It will hang like a thread as fine as a silk fiber ... and it will be preserved and saved by the efforts of the White Horse"
No explanation needed
>Stephen A. Douglas to run for president: Smith stated that Stephen A. Douglas would run for the presidency of the United States. Smith also predicted that if Douglas slandered the Latter Day Saints then he would feel the weight of the hand of the Almighty upon him.
It happened
>Joseph and Hyrum Smith to die if re-captured: Five days before his death, Smith wrote: "I told Stephen Markham that if I and Hyrum were ever taken again we should be massacred, or I was not a prophet of God"
He knew when he was going to die
This is creeping me out. I thought that mormonism was just a bad meme
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>>2033952
> He knew when he was going to die
Aren't we all...
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>make vague prediction
>pick historical event that best fits the prediction
>see guys? le prophecy!
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>>2034094
regular christians need to see this. this is how you look to everyone else when you talked about fulfilled prophecies

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>coffee still undiscovered in the forests of Ethiopia
>cacao only used in the far off lands of Mesoamerica
>only drank milk or wine for breakfast

How did the Romans stay focused and energized through long military campaigns as well as ravenous drinking binges?

I wonder if their superior sleeping habits (primo somno) better prepared them for the tasks at hand.
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>>2033811

Vinegar. They drank vinegar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posca
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>>2033811
>superior sleeping habits
The current sleeping pattern is the superior form of sleeping though?
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>>2033811
>How did the Romans stay focused and energized through long military campaigns as well as ravenous drinking binges?

Fucking their cute German slaves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOTCCj-PJ80

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Prophecies unfulfilled

>The whole world will worship the One God of Israel. Isaiah 2:11-17, Isaiah 40:5, Zephaniah 3:9
Currently large swaths humanity do not worship the One God of Israel.

>Knowledge of God will fill the world. Isaiah 11:9, 45:23, 66:23, Jeremiah 31:33, Zechariah 3:9, 8:23, 14:9,16, Ezekiel 38:23, Psalm 86:9
Note that this is knowledge of God - not simply unsubstantiated faith in God. Even amongst the faithful, such knowledge is rare.

>All Israelites will be returned to their homeland Isaiah 11:12, 27:12-13, Ezekiel 11:17, 36:24, Deuteronomy 30:3
Though there are more Jews today living in the Land of Israel than there have been since the exile began nearly 2,000 years ago - there is still a large diaspora consisting of millions of Jews.

>The Jewish people will experience eternal joy and gladness. Isaiah 51:11
The Jewish people have been historically subject to a great degree of persecution (the Holocaust, the Inquisition, pogroms, etc.) and while generally our condition has improved, we are still a perpetual target.

>Nations will recognize the wrongs they did to Israel. Isaiah 52:13-53:5
While modern Germany as a nation-state does much to repent of its history (i.e. the Holocaust), various states and human institutions with much blood and guilt on their hands, to this day either remain silent, white-wash/cover up history, or in some perverse instances even exult in it.

>The peoples of the world will turn to the Jews for spiritual guidance. Zechariah 8:23
While there is today an emerging interest in observance of the Noahide laws (the Torah's universal laws of man), there still has not been an en masse turn towards learned Torah observant Jews for guidance in spiritual matters.
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>>2033729
>Weapons of war will be destroyed. Ezekiel 39:9
One need only momentarily consider the trillions spent on arms by nations such as the U.S., China and Russia as well as the existence of an immense military industrial complex to realize that this is not the condition we find ourselves in today.

>A person’s genealogical/tribal membership are transmitted exclusively through one’s physical father. Numbers 1:18, Jeremiah 33:17
Jesus whose alleged sketchy genealogy is maternal cannot possibly be a verifiable descendent of the tribe of Judah.

>The Temple will be rebuilt. Micah 4:1, Ezekiel 40-42, Isaiah 2:2-3, Malachi 3:4, Zechariah 14:20-21,
The Third Temple is not a metaphor, it is not symbolic of a man. There will be an actual physical building where all of the ritualistic components that the Torah commands be implemented, will be administered by Leviim (Levites) and Kohanim (Priests).

>World Peace: Isaiah 2:4, 11:6, 60:18 Micah 4:1-4, Hosea 2:20
The list of ongoing military conflicts is too long to list here. One can hardly pick up a newspaper or hear a news report without being informed of the latest battle, bombing, strike, etc.

>Christianity claims that Jesus "Fulfilled the law," i.e. the law is abrogated and need not any longer be observed.
Deut. 13:2-7 concerns the "false prophet" - if one arises who attempts to draw the Jewish people away from Torah observance then he is to be identified as such. The Torah's commandments are an eternally binding covenant with the Jews, God is not a whimsical being subject to a willy nilly changing of the rules - "God is not a man, that He should lie; neither the son of man, that He should repent" (Num. 23:19)
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>>2033737
>All Jews will embrace Torah observance. Ezekiel 37:24, Deuteronomy 30:8-10, Jeremiah 31:32, Ezekiel 11:19-20, 36:26-27.
It is fairly obvious that as the situation stands today, lamentably only a very small percentage of Jews live in observance of the Torah. Secularism has widely been embraced by Jews and some even go so far as deeming such virtuous.

>Jesus cannot be a part of God, not him, anybody or anything. Deut 6:4.
The idea of the Messiah actually partaking of divinity is anathema to Torah Judaism. God is ONE. His oneness is inviolable and is not that of a compound unity (like twelve eggs make one dozen, or three divinities make one god).

The Law is eternal.

Torah: Genesis 17:9, Exodus 12:14, 12:17, 12:24 12:43, 13:3, 27:21, 28:43, 29:9, 30:21, 31:17, 34:27, Leviticus 3:17, 6:22, 7:34-36, 10:9, 10:15, 16:29, 16:31, 16:34, 17:7, 23:14, 23:21, 23:31, 23:41, 24:3, 26:46, Numbers 10:8, 15:15, 19:10, 19:21, 18:23, 35:29, Deuteronomy 4:40, 5:29, 12:28, 18:5, 28:46, 29:28-29, 32:40

Navi: Joshua 1:8, 2 Kings 17:37, Isaiah 34:17, 40:8, 57:16, Hosea 2:19,

Writings: Daniel 7:18, 1 Chronicles 17:22, 23:13, 2 Chronicles 2:4, Psalms 111:7-8, 119:44, 119:52, 119:142, 119:160, 148:6

...and that there are no references to it ever passing away.
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Atheists BTFO

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Why were Nazis obsessed with tall muscular men?
Were they fags?. Did Hitler ride dick?.
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G*rmans would have accepted to get fucked in the ass just to be like Romans.
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>>2033720
No more than Soviets were.
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>>2033720
Wew.

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What a shitty scientist
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>>2033715
He lived 2.5k years ago.

Compare him to his contemporaries, not modern science.
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>>2033715
But a great logician and philosopher
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Even Bertrand Russell gave him props, begrudgingly.

My first Physics professor apologized for his geocentrism, citing that he couldn't have seen the parallax properly with the equipment he had on hand

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The American Revolution caused rebellions around the globe and a monarchy to fall. Was this revolution an ultimate good? How would the world look today if it hadn't happened?
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>globe

Nice try shill.
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>>2033575
ok...earth then. same question faggot.
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>>2033575
This
/thread

What happened? Was it an open war or just a bit of intense border clashes? What did the Japs hope to achieve?
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Who cares? They were both Socialist scum.
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>>2033475
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>>2033462
>Was it an open war or just a bit of intense border clashes?

The latter.

>What did the Japs hope to achieve?

They were hoping that the Soviets were a good deal weaker than they turned out to be and that the Japanese could expand into Eastern Siberia and gain access to a lot of primary resources there, which was the weak point in the Japanese military economy.

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Me, on the "Flaying of men" month (6 March – 25 March).

Spring, sprouting, fertility will come to you if you sacrifice, flay captives, enact mock battles, sacrifice gladiators, and wear victims skin for 20 days.
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>>2033421
Wow that is retarded. No wonder the Aztecs went extinct
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>>2033421
>March 27th

"Day Ollin (Movement) is governed by Xolotl as its provider of tonalli (Shadow Soul) life energy. This is an auspicious day for the active principle, a bad day for the passive principle. Ollin is a day of the purified heart, signifying those moments where human beings may perceive what they are becoming. A good day for transmutation, which arrives like an earthquake that leaves in its wake the ruins of rationality, order and the preconceived.

The thirteen day period (trecena) that starts with day 1-Cuauhtli (Eagle) is ruled by Xochiquetzal. This trecena signifies a time of inspired play: regardless of the sport, this is the time of mastery. All of one's practice and preparation culminates now in an unparalleled conjunction of luck, skill and timing. These are 13 days when gambling on happiness, both your own and others', pays off. These are good days for taking risks; bad days for playing it safe."
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>>2033433
Source? Your source is more informative than mine.

Mine:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec_religion#Calendar

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You can be transported back in time with some modern technology (car, phone, camera, etc).

How would, let's say, medieval people react if they saw a time traveller?

How would Romans react to seeing a modern battle tank?
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>>2033378
They would kill you
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The serfs/plebs would be amazed and some would be scared, then they would contact the regional prince/governor who would come and arrest you and burn you at the stake/make you a slave and ship you off to Carthage.
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If you come with a gun or rifle, you'd be the most important man alive and every king/emperor would want you as his advisor.

You'd be strictly guarded and given all sorts of honors and luxuries, in exchange for teaching them how your magic shit works.

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What went wrong? What would you have done differently?
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>>2033369
Not be a stupid genocidal warlord
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>>2033377
What about an intelligent genocidal warlord?
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>>2033419
Forgot pic

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