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Just because one faction stops fighting doesn't mean the other ones will. If he had stopped, the Russians would have kept coming either way.

>>2033225

>If Hitler quit while he was ahead and consolidated his positions instead of trying to expand further, no north africa campaign,

Well, for starters, there'd still need to be a North Africa campaign. The British were on the offensive originally there, and all the long term advantages in terms of harbor space, railroad capacity, ability to project troops there, etc. favor the British. Rommel's initial orders weren't to go conquer Egypt, it was to prevent imminent collapse of Italian forces in Cyrenica. If you don't attack the British, they'll attack you.

>Would he have economically struggled

Probably, but that's almost a given; the Nazi economy was very badly mismanaged.

>Would Stalin eventually invade?

Probably not, not unless it was looking like the Nazis were about to collapse on their own. Stalin was, first and foremost, a cautious opportunist. He liked his wars short, and against tiny, diplomatically isolated countries. He's not about to start a war against a power of near equal size and with quite a few advantages in their bag.

> Would Britain or America attempt any naval invasion of mainland Europe?


Not immediately, maybe not ever. Much more likely is that Britain would keep the war up on a low intensity level more or less forever. They have a larger economy, and an air doctrine that's far more effective for that sort of strategic bombing war than the German CAS doctrine. And the U.S. was getting more pro-Allied and anti-German by the month after France fell. Sooner or later, they'd pile in.

That being said, if there's no Eastern Front, you're probably not ever going to see an invasion of mainland Europe; too many German troops and too easy for them to reinforce wherever you landed.

Much more likely is an attempt to win the war by airpower alone, and doubling down on that, as well as overrunning of tertiary theaters like North Africa where it would be hard for the Axis to meaningfully project force.


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>>2033225
>>2033254


Then, in 1945, you see the atom bomb. You probably wouldn't get full bomb production going until 1946, at which point Germany is in deep, deep shit.


>The war would have been for all intents and purposes over, with Hitler as the winner and dominator of Europe, right?

No. Because Hitler has broken too many bridges and is considered too politically unreliable to stop the war on anything short of a total victory over all. Unless he can bring a close to the UK at the least, he's probably going to lose eventually.

The war will take enormously longer than the WW2 we're familiar with, and will kill probably more people overall, but no, Germany doesn't win this scenario either.

And that's assuming there is no economic collapse, which is quite frankly unlikely.

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The dragon/dinosaur.

The horse

>>2033218
Fucking Santa Claus. I wish for a dragon each year, but he doesn't even give me a crocodile or a monitor lizard.

This isn't a low effort bait post, it's not going to survive long.

>>2033213
Probably not! Even though I gave it a baity image and title. Best I could do.

(I'll also take this opportunity to note, before someone else does, that Arabic, Devanagari etc technically aren't alphabets, they're abjads and abugidas -- but who gives a shit.)

>>2033236
Didn't alphabets evolve from abjads?

>communism relies on proper resource management
>resources did not get managed properly

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Because planned economy fucked up agriculture royally

>>2033096
Because the state produced it arbitrarily rather than the emergence of organic social systems that produced and distributed food in a socialist fashion.
That's the problem with political revolution, it doesn't consider social systems from and ecological standpoint. planting the seeds of cultural evolution is superior to a political revolution. Introducing ideas as mutations and letting natural selection do the work for you.

There's already a neanderthal thread.
Also the proper term is "outcompeted"

>>2033004
No. Impossible.

Evolutionism is myth.

The creature in your pic only exists in the imaginations of darwinists.

Yo momma is so old that she knows the answer to this.

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There are a lot, but Sparta's trash talking is god-tier. They were literally trained from birth to speak in badass one-liners when the situation called for it.

>>2033215
Any examples?

>>2032908
Mostly crystals.

>>2032908
IIRC they had more sophisticated tools and social rituals. They lost because
>their primary food source was disappearing
>low birthrates
>homo sapiens were much more agile and violently aggressive
Adapt or die lad

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This thread again?

Don't you have enough of the ass pounding you got yesterday?

There are bunch of tengrist larpers in Turkey

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;_;

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well the kazakh flag is tengri as fuck isn´t it

mass literacy was a mistake

People don't trust the ruling elites.

some countries do hand out sex manuals

http://www.blick.ch/news/schweiz/mittelland/bei-oesis-abgekupfert-so-sieht-der-luzerner-sex-knigge-fuer-migranten-aus-id4558723.html

>>2032835
Kinda pointless to talk about in person, but I do find it impressive how we are able to feed people with little to no income meat.

It only goes downhill beyond the invention of the five dollar rotisserie.

>>2032885
I wish I could talk about how amazing the modern world is with people in person.

Someone can at any time send for medical assistance that will probably arrive within a few hours at most any time of day where I live.

That gets me sometimes.

>>2032835
It turns out that Costco loses money on their chicken sales, which is why they put it in the back of their store. On the way to the chicken, you usually end up buying something else.

>>2032833
I'm not too familiar with what you're talking about, but I am sure that plenty of states outside of the Holy Roman Empire and medieval France did not have any arm bearing laws.

If they did make you relinquish them, it seems like a good measure against violence breaking out. If everybody is unarmed - or at least not openly carrying - in an environment filled with alcohol then less fights would break out. Fist fights feel very risky compared to if you had a sword, spear, poleaxe or whatever to hide behind.

>>2034883
hes making a shit analogy to guns. good on your gun morale though

>>2032833
You ask that like premodern states had a single law code instead of local customs.

>>2032795

That depends on your definition of medieval of course.

>ideas and reality is made simpler for human beings to understand them
Oh gosh I just learned something new today :3

>>2032795
Best thing you can do is to explain to anybody you come across making those errors about the truth of the matter; That knights wore mail up until the 1300s, that plate armor wasn't very heavy or restrictive, and so on. Or, you can ignore them and sperg out with like-minded autistic people on the internet. I like doing both, myself.

>>2032792
If I recall correctly, red was the color of the military, purple the color of nobility. They painted their shields based on their hometown or legion, so that if they died on the field they might be able to be identified.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Roman_military_clothing

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>>2032792
Red is the color of the gods.

>>2032792
No, they probably wore some kind of earthen tones and maybe a dark, reddish brown.

Red dye is expensive as fuck.

>>2032557
thats a typical upper-paleolithic archaic pre-cro-mag nose

latest advances should have made this obsolete

it is prevalent in north africa, from where it spread to iberia and boriquas

>historical figure
>upper-paleolithic
It's just the SSA admixture in the Americas and to a lesser extent, Spain

>tfw no Prussian nose
why even live?

>>2032317

They looked into climate archives, data such as tree rings, ice cores, lake sediments and historical documents, to reconstruct the climate of the time. “The reconstructions show that the climatic conditions during the 1430s were very special. With its very cold winters and normal to warm summers, this decade is a one of a kind in the 400 years of data we were investigating, from 1300 to 1700 CE,” says Keller. “What cannot be answered by the reconstructions alone, however, is its origin – was the anomalous climate forced by external influences, such as volcanism or changes in solar activity, or was it simply the random result of natural variability inherent to the climate system?”

There have been other cold periods in Europe’s history. In 1815, the volcano Mount Tambora spewed large quantities of ash and particles into the atmosphere, blocking enough sunlight to significantly reduce temperatures in Europe and other parts of the world. But the 1430s were different, not only in what caused the cooling but also because they hadn’t been studied in detail until now.

The climate simulations ran by Keller and her team showed that, while there were some volcanic eruptions and changes in solar activity around that time, these could not explain the climate pattern of the 1430s. The climate models showed instead that these conditions were due to natural variations in the climate system, a combination of natural factors that occurred by chance and meant Europe had very cold winters and normal to warm summers. [See note]

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>>2032324

Regardless of the underlying causes of the odd climate, the 1430s were “a cruel period” for those who lived through those years, says Camenisch. “Due to this cluster of extremely cold winters with low temperatures lasting until April and May, the growing grain was damaged, as well as the vineyards and other agricultural production. Therefore, there were considerable harvest failures in many places in northwestern and central Europe. These harvest failures led to rising food prices and consequently subsistence crisis and famine. Furthermore, epidemic diseases raged in many places. Famine and epidemics led to an increase of the mortality rate.”

In the paper, the authors also mention other impacts: “In the context of the crisis, minorities were blamed for harsh climatic conditions, rising food prices, famine and plague.” However, in some cities, such as Basel, Strasbourg, Cologne or London, societies adapted more constructively to the crisis by building communal granaries that made them more resilient to future food shortages.

Keller says another decade of very cold winters could happen again. “However, such temperature variations have to be seen in the context of the state of the climate system. Compared to the 15th century we live in a distinctly warmer world. As a consequence, we are affected by climate extremes in a different way – cold extremes are less cold, hot extremes are even hotter.”

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>>2032326

The team says their Climate of the Past study could help people today by showing how societies can be affected by extreme climate conditions, and how they should take precautions to make themselves less vulnerable to them. In the 1430s, people had not been exposed to such extreme conditions before and were unprepared to deal with the consequences.

“Our example of a climate-induced challenge to society shows the need to prepare for extreme climate conditions that might be coming sooner or later,” says Camenisch. “It also shows that, to avoid similar or even larger crises to that of the 1430s, societies today need to take measures to avoid dangerous anthropogenic climate interference.”

Link to the paper: http://www.clim-past.net/12/2107/2016

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