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The one thing that rich countries today have in common is the fact that in the 19th century they were industrializing.
What do countries that were industrializing in the 19th century have in common with each other, in regards to their history?
A long period of political stability, perhaps?
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>A long period of political stability, perhaps?

Arguably. After the chaos of the Napoleonic Wars most of Europe spent the following century in relative peace, building themselves up and going overseas instead. The U.S spent the century expanding and seizing resource rich land. Other what are now developed nations were given a shit ton of aid from the U.S to combat Soviet influence in the 20th century.
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>>2326163
And here is a pro tip.
Nowadays a "devolping" nation is a nation that is getting its social and natural capital raped by the world bank and put into the supply chain of the "devolped"(degraded beyond self-sufficiency) world.

I know all this is only very losely related to your comment but I wanna talk about it.
How delusional do you have to get to belive that losing everything you depend on and complexity at an explosive rate is "devolpment".
Answer: as delusional as people that believe their food comes from the store and that leaves be trash are.
>Pic related: daily reminder, everything is fucked
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>>2326605
How does a third world nation develop into first world then?

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Are the Mitanni living proof that the hypothesis of Irano-Aryan Hyksos/Mesopotamian Warrior Caste is true?

Also, tell me about Mitanni in general
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I'd like to learn more as well

However my impression is that there's not a lot of data on these bronze age societies so good luck
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Hyksos were probably Hurrian
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The Mitanni were p neat, sorta vedic too

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>For forty-five years the kingdom I have ruled, and the black heads I have governed. In multitudes of bronze chariots I rode over rugged lands.
>black heads

What did Sargon mean by this?
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>inb4 people refer to the british alt-right literal quarternigger literal cuck raising a literal wife's son
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>>2325990
>>2325996

That Youtube guy?
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>>2325990
They had dark hair

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Who is the most beautiful woman in history?
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>>2325983
Me.
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>>2325983
That's literally an impossible question to answer without photographic evidence.

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Which geographic region has the best history and why is it Scandinavia?
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>snow niggers
>history

Good joke.
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Middle East.
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>>2325813
>anybody cares about Scandinavia but scandies and germanicphiles
He ho ha

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Just finished reading this and oh boy, that was a wild ride.

I would recommend this book to every poster on /his/, especially the ones that STILL insist on not embracing Marxism in 2017.
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>2017
>not being follower of juche
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>>2325709
>History of the United States
>1492
Dat projection
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>>2325720
enlightened patrician.

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How did Roman solve immigration crisis in their time?
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>>2325703
Just look at how they solved their own migration crisis
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>>2325703
They collapsed all over it
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>>2325703
>solved

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That plastic chair is horrid
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>>2325693
can't hurt
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>>2325693
Waste of time. Strive to live a life which is healthy for the soul.

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Prove him wrong
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He said Christianity was "Plato for the masses".

That really hurt my feelings.
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>worships masculinity
>go bug chasing
>waaah poor horsey got beat on

what a faggot
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"Nietzsche was stupid and abnormal."

So, a quick question about free will, death, and evaluation from the Christian perspective.

So, you live, and then you die. It's a pretty simple prospect, and you do some stuff in between upon which you will be evaluated for when you die, including but not limited to good works and belief in Jesus Christ as your savior, as dictates the Christian faith.

There's a catch though: everything you do is predetermined and free will is an illusion by that model. If God is omniscient, then the span of his knowledge must also include the names in the Book of Life and, conversely, the names of those damned and He must have therefore known them for all eternity preceding and following the cosmos. It's a pretty straightforward setup:

- God is omniscient.
- An omniscient being knows the fate of every soul in existence.
∴ God knows the fate of every soul in existence.

It also follows that since there are people who will end up in Hell according to most interpretations of the Bible (this argument is insignificant to Universal Unitarians), God knows which souls will be in Hell. It is also generally accepted in most denominations that God created the cosmos, or at the very least set them in motion (the creationism argument is another matter in and of itself). There is another implication of this:

- God is omniscient.
- God created the cosmos.
∴ God is aware of all aspects of His creation and perfectly comprehends all consequences thereof.

We can take this a step farther yet. God is omnipotent and hypothetically capable of literally anything. We'll put aside the typical logical paradoxes that follow this for the time being, as that is also another argument in and of itself. Given that and the conclusion above, we can derive farther that:
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>>2325597
>Leveticus 1:9
>Its entrails, however, and its legs he shall wash with water. And the priest shall offer up in smoke all of it on the altar for a burnt offering, an offering by fire of a soothing aroma to the LORD

>liking the smell of barbeque means you like the smell of death
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>>2325622
Hosea 6:6 New International Version (NIV)

6 For I desire mercy, not sacrifice,
and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings.
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(Continued)

- God is aware of all aspects of His creation and perfectly comprehends all consequences thereof.
- God is omnipotent and, being all powerful, could have arranged His creation differently with no unintended side effects.
∴ God intended for His creation to be this way.

However, there's a problem that springs from this. If God intended for His universe to be the way it is, fully aware of the conditions set and fully capable of changing them, but souls will still end up eternally damned, it can only be concluded that God intended for those souls to be there in the first place. We can gather one of three things from this:

1) God didn't know that these souls would end up in Hell regardless of their thoughts and actions, is therefore non omniscient and, by extension, not a god.

2) God did know that these souls would end up there regardless of their life choices and cannot stop it, therefore is not omnipotent, and is by extension not a god.

3) God is both aware of and capable of changing the unjust fates of these souls and refuses to change them, making Him malevolent.

None of these are satisfactory conclusions given the repeated assertion that God is just, all-knowing, and all-powerful. The dude literally creates people so that they can suffer a disproportionate and excruciating punishment for all eternity for decisions they made without full knowledge or context by his own will in a very short period of time. It's fucked up.

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Will the Germans ever recover and re-develop some kind of healthy patriotism? I'm not talking about some Trumpian post modern populist bullshit but some kind of respect for the traditional German values and common sense.
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No.
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>>2325583
:(
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>>2325581
>traditional German values
Destroying Europe?

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Ok, seriously now, lads. What evidence is there for a historical Jesus?
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We have a decent amount of evidence for his existence, but it's a lot of very disappointing evidence desu. Before I begin however, I want to point out that Jesus should be held to a higher standard of proving his existence than either Alexander the Great or Gene Shalit. Christians often whine that Jesus is held in an unfair amount of doubt, but then forget that Jesus was claiming to be God and currently enjoys a fanclub of over 2 billion followers. Higher demands made by a guy, demand even higher proofs for his existence. Religious figures should always be held to a higher standard than other men of history.

Now how do we know Jesus exists? The first non-Christian accounts were written by the Jewish historian/race-traitor Josephus in 93 AD. Now most do agree that one part of the "Testimonium Flavianum" was heavily edited by medieval Christians, long after Josephus died; but Josephus also mentions James the Just "brother of the so-called messiah", and John the Baptist, both men who were executed by their fellow Jews. And if we take the controversial third part of Josephus' testimony, and remove all the parts that a life-long, devout Jew would never say:
>About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man. For he was one who performed surprising deeds and was a teacher of such people as accept the truth gladly. He won over many Jews and many of the Greeks. And when, upon the accusation of the principal men among us, Pilate had condemned him to a cross, those who had first come to love him did not cease. And the tribe of the Christians, so called after him, has still to this day not disappeared.
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>>2325882
There is also the testimony of Tacitus in 116 AD, written by a patriotic Roman who saw Christianity as nothing more than yet another faggy new-age "flavor of the month" from the east.
>Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judæa, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as of hatred against mankind.
Now it should be pointed out that Tacitus probably got his information on Pilate from Christians he interviewed (Pilate was a prefect in reality, not a procurator as most Christians believed). But his testimony shows how quickly the new sect traveled in just 30 years after starting.
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>>2325900
>>2325882

Stop replying to this troll thread, he makes it once a week

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His entire philosophy is based on his own arrogance.

Prove me wrong.
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Why?
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>>2325454
Maybe
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>>2325463
He was very elitist

If he lived today, he would call himself 'redpilled' and look down on other people

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How do I refute the arguments that evolution undermines the doctrine of original sin, and that Jesus was the literal "new Adam"?
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By reminder believers and disbelievers that religion has nothing to do with science. Science deals with stuff you can measure and test, religion deals with the human condition in general and our behavior towards one another, stuff that you can't really test
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>>2325483

*By reminding
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>>2325483
Evolution is part of the human condition.

Human interactions can be tested btw.

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Have professional sports replaced nationalism (in the 19th century/early 20th century sense) in the Western world?
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>>2325382
They have not replaced nationalism. Nationalism is a series of ongoing projects placing the nation and its well-being at the center of its concern. Sports can be seen as a nationalism, but have not replaced the system wholesale.
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>>2325382
No? professional sports have been around for much longer than the concept of nationalism, going as far back as professional Chariot racers in the Roman Empire.

but even today, there's still nationalistic fervor for ones nation even with sports, just because you like a hockey or baseball team doesn't mean it replaces sentiment for another concept.

I'm sorry I don't really get the point you're trying to make here.
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>>2325382
No. But it can definitelly be seen as a tool used to build nationalism in a peacefull manor. And as a way to transfer tribalism over to a peacefull alternative.

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