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Not this shitheap of a thread again.

Reminder that half-breeds are not canon. That one librarian is ancient rogue trader lore that has nothing to do with current fluff. Reminder that waifufaggotry is cancer and you don't even like the Eldar as a whole.

>>53017441
>xenos waifus
>anything but absolute trash

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>>53017441

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>when you wanna make an RPG board game based on a custom pathfinder campaign but you have to not copy Talisman or the Pathfinder card game

>>53015441
Castle ravenloft. I think if you made custom cards and cooler creature ai it would be a lot of fun but I don't wanna spend that time on it.

Out of the box at full price it's just boring.

>>53015441
>games you missed out on?

I've missed out on a few KS that I wanted - like the Xia expansion.

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>>52961128
Speaking of Frostgrave, have you seen these guys yet?
The Sailors/Crewmen for Ghost Archipelago that have been shown at salute.

Looks like you could also use them for an somewhat eastern inspired warband.

>>52961128
forgot to link the old thread
>>52791044

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Hey guys, I just got done having a game of song of blades and heroes with a friend of mine. He has never played a wargame before, only ever playing RPGs. So I figured SoBaH would be a good game just so he gets the experience of tabletop wargames.

We had a ton of fun, he got the hang of it really well and is excited to play the game with me again. So I just want to say, SoBaH is a nice and simple game that is great for introducing people to tabletop wargames. It differs enough from boardgames and RPGs to give them the idea. Maybe one day he will be buying a warhammer or dropzone army or whatever. The idea is to give him the taste of wargaming in general.

Pic related, it's the board we played on where I made all the terrain.

>>53089225
5e

ACKS, depending on definition of epic fantasy

>>53089413
The classic classes, dragons and lotr rip-offs

>>53089225
4e

>>53089129
What does it do in it's original setting?
Also, artifacts are never broken, they are artifacts.
It's what they do.

>>53089150
The Berserk Armor basically enrages you beyond believe, uses that rage as a pain killer, ups all your physical stats, and acts as a weird form of life support. It maintains the functionality of your body despite the damage done to it. When one of your bones breaks it even stabs it back into place and holds it there. The whole thing supposedly doesn't stop working until every drop of blood has left your body or your brain/heart or something is destroyed. You're basically working at above peak efficiency the whole time up to your death, with nothing diminishing it until the final blow.

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The first issue I am thinking of is what the AC of the armor should be. It is fullplate so its AC should be 18 by default, but others have recommended that since it is magical it should be Fullplate +1?

>>53089150
It's a suit of armor that taps into the wearers subconscious mind and astral body. It shuts off the body's pain response and causes the wearer to be carefree in what they do. But as a consequence you won't know how injured you are until after the armor is done possessing you, it also makes you see every living thing around you as an enemy.

Due to not having the pain response, normal things that would hold you back no longer do so. You attack with all the power of your muscles and damage your own body doing so (can't feel it), while it also makes the user much more agile than they normally would be due to it's wild erratic movements.

The last ability it has and possibly the worst one, is that the armor will do everything it can (at your body's expense) to keep you in the fight as long as possible. If your arm snaps backwards from a collosal blow, the armor will stab inside of your flesh, drag, and force your arm back into place. You can imagine the detriments of being constantly stabbed back into working order.

That's about the best summary I can give, but the wiki is also insightful about it:

>http://berserk.wikia.com/wiki/Berserker_Armor

"Khorne requires blood! He cares not from whence it flows!"

I don't think internal bleeding counts.

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>>53086465
>battleaxe
>useless against armor
nigga what
A battlaxe may not be as good as a mace against armor but it's still a solid 6/10 at least.

>>53086492

Well, yeah but the the mace has the edgy bits on the knob, and, that'd make someone bleed. I mean, probably not as much as the battleaxe, but still. I'm seriously considering using it, do you think I'd lose favor with Khorne if I did?

They've got their scales to protect them anyway, and who's to say they can't breathe in space?

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Whatever makes your dick hard.

>>53086386
monstrous bodies should probably mean monstrous wear

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>>53085418
Not actually me.

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>>53085468

>>53085418
That GM, hijacked game night to intro his new campaign, but he confessed to running out of ideas 20 minutes in, wouldn't listen to player suggestions and defaulted to fetch questing us out of the city (of his urban campaign) in most cliche-driven, macguffiny, no-story-line "adventure" and actively punished us for doing anything but hack-n-slash in the overpowered fights.
By the time we reached the destination I was fed up, and when he described poorly played music coming from a human inn up ahead, I said as aside to a fellow player it was probably elvish.
That GM is an elffriend, so he immediately informed me it was a halfling bard. I immediately sensed an opportunity for fun for the first time in three hours.
When we got inside I gave the halfling bard all my coins as a tip, with the proviso he use hem for non-elven music lessons, 'cause elves can't shred mandolin.
The GM demanded to look at my sheet, noting my good alighnment, and handed it back, unsatisfied.
I was immediately accosted by armed guards and told to rescind my opinion of elven music. I refused and unresisting was punched in the gut while a guard held me still, and the other removed their helmet to reveal they were an elf all along, and told me to take back what I said.
I demanded the elf pick up the mandolin, and prove me wrong, only to be punched again.
The GM told me he'd have to tear up my character sheet if I didn't so I handed it over rather than give in.
At this point he read the room and realized he'd fucked up, and declared the game over and he was going home.
I felt bad, but that was the most fun I had all session.

>>53084809
Try Moldvay's Basic D&D. None of the things you described are a problem there. I personally prefer AD&D but it can get a bit too clunky for your tastes.

We've got a thread for those over here. >>53058029

>>53084809

Power and options. 3e was broken because the scaling was insane. It went into magical superhero realm. But some people enjoy that, and find anything short of it to be boring. Pathfinder took the concept and ran with it. The game is mature enough to have a zillion options on top of that, and games are expected to allow many of them by potential players.

Go to /pfg/ and pitch anything other than a game about epic tier heroes or a lewdgame and you're going to get laughed out of the room. You can make the system do whatever you need it to do, but you can't do a damn thing about the player base. Treat pathfinder as a containment game if you want to keep your sanity.

>>53084809
>Who likes this?

Shitlord neckbeards.

>Who finds this fun?

Neckbearded shitlords.

>Why do people play this fucking system?

DnD is a prominent brand and therefore hoovers in customers. Starting with 3.5, some then gravitated to PF. Many people continue to play it because they have a degree of system mastery. They're usually the kind that enjoy working with game mechanics but don't really want to be seriously challenged (and will whine about "muh CR" or "muh WBL" if they are).

First for cult ambush!

I wonder what all the base psychic powers will be.

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Which book will you get?

Hey folks, my Wizard's career had an untimely end. What do I roll to round this party up?
Knowledge Cleric, Hunter Ranger(mostly melee), Assassin Rogue and a Champion Fighter.
We're lv6.

>>53084207
crafting rules that make sense for normal campaigns. how do they fare on other systems?

>>53084207
>How do we fix Artificers?
Make them Intelligent half-casters similar to Rangers and Paladins.

What >>53084247 said.

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Not hardcore enough. You're going to be fighting this war over and over again if you don't squash them now.

In the USA, after the Civil War, the KKK rose up to continue the cause of the Confederacy in a terrorist campaign for decades. The war never ended for them, even though the Union tried to play it off like it was nothing, or just banditry. It was a fucking guerrilla insurgency in our own backyard for decades.

In Germany after WWI, wounded pride and bitter resentment at losing a big war when they're supposed to be some kind of badass warrior culture resulted in the rise of the Nazis. The Nazis tapped into that anger and turned Germany into one of the most dangerous, bloodthirsty regimes to ever exist. They pulled the whole world into a SECOND world war out of pure bitter spite and the desire to balm their wounded ego.

All these things you have sound like a great way to have a KKK/Nazi-style militant resurgence kick in within a few years because they're too soft. You're talking about a militaristic collection of races who, historically, have kicked the shit out of yours, and now suddenly lose once. Their wounded pride and bitter resentment will drive them to an extremist war of revenge.

What you should do is purge the Empire of anyone too fanatical, and impose hardcore mental re-education to basically brainwash everyone else into submitting to your agenda. You're in a war not only with a people right now, but with an idea, the idea that the Empire ought to fucking murder your guys. You need to kill both the idea and anyone who believes in it. If you don't, and just trust that people "will just get better", you're going to be sorely mistaken.

Or at the very least, you can have all this as a potential future storyline. That would be cool, seeing how an otherwise good race becomes kinda evil itself in trying to crush an evil ideology.

>>53084482
Hmm... that's actually a point. If we are too soft it will be just an intermission for a new year.

Still, our race is naturally good. Like good in the sense we fought crying about enemy civilian casualties. Maybe demand reeducation classes? Not brainwashing, but a duty like obligatory voting?

>>53084805
What resources are at your disposal? If you've got magic or whatever at your disposal, perhaps there are spells like "change alignment" or something?

I love you.

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>>53083164
The World [2G 6S 10B]

>Magic, Medium (1 Silver 1 Bronze) [2G 5S 9B]
I kinda like the idea of magic and tech being equilevant, should lead to interesting solutions. Of course, the High magic says that magic is just better than current technology, so maybe instead of sending probes to Mars, we could just teleport there. Choices. In the end, I wanted them equilevant. Plus it would concentrate world destroying powers in hands of relatively few people effectively chosen randomly, not good.

>Beauty (1 Silver) [2G 4S 9B]
This is a bit complicated too, since if you just shift the bellcurve, aren't the people at the end still considered ugly? But this should guarantee no fatties, so it's worth it.

>Magical Races (1 Silver) [2G 3S 9B]

>Reality (1 Bronze) [2G 3S 8B]
I think gradual change would be better but decades or centuries for changes to happen is just too long.

>Politics (1 Gold) [1G 3S 8B]
Communism is justice, comrade.
>COMMUNISM HAS NEVER FUC-
>Effective (1 Bronze) [1G 3S 7B]
Now it does.

>Intelligence, Remove Stupid (1 Silver 1 Bronze) [1G 2S 6B]
We are going to space. Magic space. With space magic.

>Peace on Earth (1 Bronze) [1G 2S 5B]
Considering the amount of changes suddenly enforced by Reality, it's probably better to enforce peace too. Not many people wish for war anyway so it's not large edit. I'm far more hesitant about removing the possibility of crime. It's rather large mindfuck to the entire population of earth. It basically comes down to two questions, I think. 1) are the laws enacted by government just. 2) does the freedom to commit crime justify the cost in suffering the victims experience. I think the answer to 2) is no but 1) is not guaranteed. I guess you could use other changes to ensure that government enacts only just laws but others can attempt that exercise.

>Growth (1 Bronze) [1G 2S 4B]
No more flat, death to lolicons.

>>53083188
t-thanks

>>53081809
Your mom. We have to do her ourselves.

>>53081809
Fun

>>53081809
Is there anything GURPS can do WELL?

>>53080230
Critical success on Ability checks is a meme, that shit should be exclusive to combat.

>>53080271
To double down because I have autistic passion about this, I hate hearing silly stories where someone does godlike shit on a 20 out of combat. We get it haha whimsy and fun but ffs if you actually follow the rules it's nothing special and ninety percent of those Nat twenty stories are dumb bullshit.

Now if you're talking stuff like Cyberpunk 2020, where a max roll means you get to keep rolling, that's good shit. But I'm not gonna say "dont play dnd" because I'm not a system elitist.

>>53080230
>>53080271
In most games it IS exclusive to combat attack rolls. Even then, often times it's still a critical threat, not an automatic success.

I don't want to say that people are having badwrongfun, but critical successes on things like save, skill checks, etc, are really, really stupid and ruin everything in favor of lolsorandumb shit. Every time. Without exception.