Quest Thread General

>>1032534
>Player Question:
When everyone else goes pants on head retarded and QM just goes with it. Also, when they bitch why they fail afterwards.

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>>1012569
Qm not ded

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New Thread for me
>>1032491

>QM Question
The players haven't really had any control of the world as far as I can remember. All of that has been set pretty much in stone from my end, as far as I can recall anyways.

>QM Questions:
>How much control do your players have over your world? How much of your world changes to suit what the players want to do?

Whatever they can think of, so long as the character is able to do it, and do it in a way that fits them. Not that anybody tries anything wild when they go outside the provided options. The world doesn't change, however; the players aren't the God King, they're little more than nobody.


But that's basically toast anyways because I think any players have lost patience with my glacial pace bullshit.

Since I'm doing nothing anyways I'm willing to write reviews for people with quests that aren't twitching corpses, because God knows I'm not improving my literary ability through actual authorship. I'm not going to read through 50 threads of shit though so twenty thread absolute maximum. If I read past that all at once on longer ones I'll lose my goddamn marbles.

>>1032534

>QM Question:

Less than they think. There's usually SOMETHING going on in the background, the players just tend to take safe options, though, so it's usually unnoticeable.

>Player Question
When players agree to something incredibly stupid and risky, and then they roll badly for it and everyone bitches. Alternately, when they go for an option that is very obviously a bad option, and the most logical result happens. It's just...what did you expect?

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>>1032534
>QM Questions:
More than they realize. My players have affected the world in ways that even I wasn't expecting.

>Player Question:
When a QM uses dice too much for things that shouldn't require it. I feel like it takes control out of the players' hands, which is good for some stuff, but not everything.

The Ten Questing Commandments.

1.~The QTG is thy Lord. Thou shalt have no other Lord before the QTG.

2.~Thou shalt make unto thee many side characters of the feminine persuasian, and liken thyself to the little girl.

3.~Thou shalt not take the facts of the QTG in vain, for the QTG will not hold him guiltless who ignores its facts.

4.~Thou shalt quicken thy voting window to ensure the speediest pace.

5.~Honor thy dead quests and discuss them with regularity, for the glory the QTG bestowed upon them in their running.

6.~Thou shalt limit discussion amounts to encourage creative uses of player resources.

7.~Thou shalt issue forth plot from exposition thrice threadly.

8.~Thou shalt love thy own work unconditionally and at all times express this through thy Lord the QTG.

9.~Thou shalt bear spiteful witness to thy neighboring QMs, lest they mistake upon themselves in questing with no others to point it out.

10.~Thou shalt covet thy waifuers, for they are the sacred faction which sustains thee.

>>1032534
>The discord link goes to a different channel about bees

I have no idea how this happened.

here's an actual link https://discord.gg/E8RwzKh

>>1032534
gonna make a thing with a lot of effort in the visual stuff and whatnot

How 2 stay motivated when there's not gonna be any interest because of the slug pace of the board?

>>1032534
>How much control do your players have over your world? How much of your world changes to suit what the players want to do?

Not much, yet. The world doesn't bend to a lowly witch apprentice, after all. But the world may come to regret that choice one day,

That will be a fun day for everyone involved.

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Star Wars: Kuat Colle is now live and well.

>>1032617

Getting into questing for the first time, and my main question is:

Specific prompts vs Write-ins

What's a good balance?

It seems like to much restriction kills discussion, but too much free-form kills interest.

>>1032647
>Valid Option 1
>Valid Option 2
>Valid Option 3
>Write in

We're live!
>>1032654
>>1032654
>>1032654

>>1032647
If you want to do a write-in only option, you must have all of the following ingredients:

1. A solid playerbase with a quest that currently has at more than 5 people participating
2. A well-defined MC that has actions they would or would not do that the players understand and respect
3. A choice that matters both to the players and to the plot of the quest that will have a demonstratable impact on the world the quest is set in at some point in the future

Otherwise, >>1032652

>>1032666
Makes sense. I'm looking over the starter's guide right now. Did you write it? If so, do you mind expanding a little on pre-writing?

Making notes on general things is pretty easy, but how would you pre-write for specific posts if the options you give are diverse?

>>1032684
I didn't write it. I have absolutely no idea who did.

As for pre-writing, you'll find most QMs do not pre-write at all.

I do a little bit.

If you want to pre-write, do it on posts where you don't expect a ton of write-ins and whatever the players choose, the immediate effect doesn't change too much.

As for pre-writing on very diverse decisions, start with fluff descriptions of the world and the characters that give the players something to picture but won't change too much depending on the choice. It shouldn't be much but it's about as much pre-writing as you can do while still giving players a meaningful choice.

That's how I do it, anyway. Other people have different opinions.

>>1032777
Hmm, thanks, that helps put it into perspective.

>>1032534
>QM question:
Not a lot of direct control. They've influenced my decisions to a certain extent, but overall they're not meant to have a huge impact on the world at large. They may have a huge impact on their own lives and the lives of people around them, but they're supposed to be part of a group that's fallen as deeply through the cracks of the system as possible. They may be big damned heroes on a small scale, but on a large scale they'll get a few days of news coverage for their biggest scale activities, at best.

>>1032534
>How much control do your players have over your world? How much of your world changes to suit what the players want to do?
Their little corner of it? Unlimited. Outside of that bubble of authority? They're free to push as hard as they want of course, and may find some success. But the universe has a way of pushing back, even if there's some delay in the response.

>Players who have quit a quest, what drove you to it?
Other players.

>>1032534

In celebration of the Fall Of Cadia, this weekend I'll be starting a new Warhammer 40k Cultist Quest. For those of you who remember, I'm sorry that I abandoned the last one without notifying anyone, but I lost all inspiration and some IRL happenings made it very difficult to continue. I hope you all understand, and I can assure you that I won't be abandoning the Quest this time.

Thoth Talibah and the Frateris De Veritas might make a cameo at some point, and I'll be using 1d4chan's random generator tables to come up with interesting content. I'm looking forward to it.

> HAIL CHAOS!

Episode 18 of Galaxy Quest resumes!

>>1029284

Modern Necromancy Quest Redux, thread Eleven is up and running!
>>1030144
>>1030144
>>1030144
Come and help Liz make the most of her evening, either by partying or raising the dead!

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>that moment when you're 100% sure you've somehow alienated most of your player base

>>1033421
What'd you do?

>>1033586
Pulled the handbrake and cartwheeled the quest into a completely different lane.

>>1033421
100% is impressive

Deets?

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For those interested, an update on the Paladin of Avalon is up.
http://anonkun.com/stories/the-paladin-of-avalon/-JRvxJl3loGBg9Bo64XE/28-a-rising-shadow/8jBXrRko89FZoxwQd

>QM Questions
>How much control do your players have over your world? How much of your world changes to suit what the players want to do?

Half & half on the first question. Comics continuity is a thing (Cause's it's MARVEL Quest) so obviously events in the past are usually set in stone. The future how ever can change dependent on the actions and choices of my players. Say they decide to join Carol Danvers during the second Civil War, they might end up actually capturing Tony early rather than having Danvers knock his ass out.

This actually presents a dilemma for me, cause I need to figure out if players are semi okay with Rail-Roading. Cause there are certain plot points I have in mind with twists I'd like to perpetuate, but they require the players to go in a certain direction, or at least follow a semblance of that direction towards the twists and plots. I'd never pull a Velo, dispite the fact that I participated in his GoT Quest which Trip took over, but I have the story set up, and want to know if the players want to act out the MC's story, or just hitch a ride on someone elses.

People who play my qst, get back to me when/ if you see this and shoot me your opinions in the discord. All links provided in the #1st issue, archived

As for how much of the world that changes, again is subjective upon the decisions of the players. They could choose to do the equivalent of a training arc, stopping crime solo and making a name for themselves while the Civil War goes on, and pop up on the scene later, or they could join a side, or just choose to not deal with this drama. Depending on their actions, I then write up the consequences and repercussions of their actions, leading them down a certain other story line rather than the main that Marvel has as canon.

My quest case people haven't seen it yet, I've been whoring myself like a Taiwanese lady boi; http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=Marvel%20Quest%20Redux

>>1033680
>not even Excellent

>>1033683
Nigga I've been running all of like two weeks.

>>1033683
>archive scores matter
lol yeah I'm sure monstergirl legend, dragonball, and soul eater fanfic quests are objectively the best quests running right now

>>1033724
I actually kinda like all of those... and German Hollow Quest, though it's been kinda slumping for me.

>>1033724
>a measurement of how much players want to upvote it isn't objective in 1:1 regards with how much they give a shit
>pleb

>>1033759
>number of participants correlates to quality
it goes without saying that we have a shitload of players with terrible taste here

>>1033759
>>1033724
Scores are indicative of popularity (or an autist proxy voting his favorite quest) not quality.

>>1033775
>implying anything was said of quality when the statement is clearly only about care, IE; popularity

>>1033777
>implying I didn't just say that

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>>1033777
>>1033775
I thought high quality quests normally end up more popular anyway, I don't thinks there's zero correlation.

>>1033792
is this nigga serious

>>1033792
Only if they get the exposure needed. You'd be surprised what gets ignored.

Make a Dragonball quest and you have all the exposure you need out the gate.

>>1033792
Yes, the Overwatch Quest is a popular quest. The Deadspace Quest is a popular quest, as is the Dragonball Quest. These are validly popular, and thus good.

No you fucking apemong it doesn't mean shit. MY quest with 4 players that flake harder than me is totally better in writing, action scenes, characters, character voice, paragraph spacing, pacing, update speed, banter, and shitposting.

It's just not popular because most players who aren't me are garbage.

>>1033807
t. yet another fanfic writer

>>1033807
>popular means good
>lists bad quests that aren't even very popular

>>1033828
>whoosh

>>1033816
You got it.

>>1033834
was the first bit sarcasm?

because the second half also looks like sarcasm and would be contradictory to the first point's sarcasm

>>1033848
said stupidthing
refutation of stupidthing
bitter memory
sarcasm

In order.
I'm pretty happy that I stopped trying OC quests, for reals. It really is just best to let the actually creative people do that.

>>1033880
I have OC planned but I feel like I must practice more first, should I bother?

>>1033895
yes

>>1033895
I can't think of a single time a QM wrote a legitimate OC quest after starting with a fanfic.

>>1033895
IMO, you get better at writing OC by writing OC.

>>1033895
Fun>Anything I could say to stop you.

So, yes.

>Threads with Excellent rating on page 1 of suptg as of this post.

>Monstergirl Legend Quest 3:Legend
>Dragonball Quest #118
>DWMA Quest #9
>MARVEL Quest; Redux #1
>Pokemon Island Adventure Quest #19
>Overwatch Quest 4
>Infinite Stars Quest 50
>Northern Beasts Quest #19

Having read barely any of these I have no knowledge of their quality but 5 outta 8 are fanfic which help with exposure.

For the other three:

Monstergirl Legend is a Headmaster quest who has his own group diehard fans which helps the score (Monstergirls also help)

Infinite Stars is a MercCommand quest who also has a die hard following.

Northern Beasts...well that one's the outlier. Moloch's following used to be small so I'm happy it's working out for him and NBQ is a good OC quest. SGQ was better though.

>>1033911
I write OC for my own entertainment in my own time. I write fanfics to get better at entertaining others and their choices

>>1033908
>>1033915
ok

>>1033909
I can't either

>>1033909
Moloch and Kaz are two examples.

Though Kaz is running both the fanfic and the OC at the same time now while Moloch is on his second OC quest.

Strangely they both started with SMT quests.

Hey who would you guys say are the "celebrities" or people who post a bunch and a semi-respected on /qst/?

>>1033989
QuestDrone.

>>1033989
I haven't heard anything bad about Mr.Wong

>>1033989
Schteel is alright.

>>1033989
Soma and Planefag

>>1034009
>Planefag
>respected

>>1034011
And TrickQM

>>1033989
And Wargle too

>>1034002
Schteel is a faggot
>>1034009
Soma isn't a QM

>>1034002
>Cum Zone man
>respectable

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>>1033989
I hope you realize that a question like that is only going to attract shitposting. Especially at night.

>>1033989
>respecting any QM
>ever
ISHYGDDT

>>1034085
Alright doesn't necessarily mean respectable, label properly anon.

You're alright too.

>>1034002
Schteel is what happens when you crossbreed a soy sauce packet that's been used as a condom with 1950's American propaganda and doesn't even deserve to be called human. He is a wretch of the highest order and deserves nothing more than your scorn.

He is a liar and a coward who railroads players into lesbian encounters while simultaneously crying about how "those gosh darned yurifags" are stopping him from writing heterosexual dalliances. He reuses the same core character concepts from quest to quest and writes like a 13 year old trying to write like a poorly translated LN and every setting he writes is just modern day suburban Americana + anime tropes regardless of whether it's a fantasy market town or a far future on a distant alien planet.

Oh, and he thinks "Spikes your revs right into the cum zone" is erotic. That alone is worth top bully.

>>1034134
>Spikes your revs right into the cum zone
wot

>>1034134
Yeah, exactly. Schteel is alright. He's pretty average as far as QMs go on their varying definitions of human individuals.

>>1034137
>He slams full speed into you. "Aah!" You shout. He pulls out almost to the tip of his head. "D-... Danny, what-" He slams into you again, making juices spill out and burst from your pussy. "Aahnn! Aah!" Again. "Aaah! Aah!" You turn your head. Each hard thrust he does spikes your revs into the cum zone.

This is what GermanSchteel thinks eroticism is.

>>1034139
Nice try, Schteel

>>1034140
Huh. I'm not sure what you expected to get from reading a smut quest in the first place.

>>1034140
>not being into dirty talking when fucking your car

>>1034019

>Get a mention

yesh!

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>>1034152
Look, you tactless twat, here is all I'm saying.

Think of Schteel. Now think of all other QMs.

Now put them on a scale.

Schteel is not a scale-defining QM. He's not down there with planefag and EGO on the faggotry scale, he's not up there on the shitposting scale with Soma or Trick, he's not even in range of the storyteller scale with railroaders like Shadow Master or tryhards like Vedibere and so many others.

He's a boring fucking cunt rutted between 3 and 5.1 out of 10 on the Boring Fucking Cunt scale, and that's it. He's unmissable.

>>1034230

>Schteel starts revving into the buttmad zone

>>1034230
lol imagine getting this mad at a three word joke reply

>>1034230
>*missable

>>1034251
Hey, nobody called you a Schteel. You don't know what it's like, okay?

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I yanked this off from /co/.

Crackpot ideas for Justice League crossover/teamups?

>Justice League/Kantai Collection
>JL/ Fate/GO

>>1034294
pls no

>>1032534

>QM Question
Depends. I like to rank agency in three main layers. The things I have planned out beforehand largely consist of background setting stuff, and tend to just go about its own business with or without player involvement. (a large storm, a volcano, a plague, ect) next is the stuff the players can mess with if they so choose, but will otherwise continue on their own, things like other major factions or characters making their own choices and moves behind the scenes. The players can fuck with those plans or have their plans fucked by those plans, but I try to always keep them behaving like characters with whatever limited info they have combined with logic and self-interest.
Last are the things directly next to the players. These are in a kind of quantum state and I don't often determine the exact details until after the players find it. Maybe they roll to search an area, and their roll determines what is there to be found as much as what they find, or I may swap a feature on the map to be closer because they want to find it. I'll typically set up major areas, but not determine exactly where they are on the map until the players find it in order to let them find things that are more relevant to their playstyle and more entertaining in general.

>Player Question
Never really dropped a quest I was following outright (they usually die first) but honestly, I'd probably drop one if I saw the QM just outright pander to players. Getting the feeling that victory is always guaranteed, or that the strategy of the players is irrelevant to me just defeats the entire point of the Quest format.

We as the players should be able to lose, sometimes we should have a bad day from a bad roll, and a lot of the time I find recovering from a setback to be the best launching point for a great new arc. Some of my favorite events in quests have largely unfolded from a bad roll or bad player choice and dealing with the resulting aftermath.

It's like the Twilight Zone episode where the bank robber dies and think's he's in heaven, then after winning every jackpot and robbing every bank realizes it's not fun or fulfilling without the risk of danger to it, and realizes he's actually in hell.

>>1034306
We had Avengers/Transformers and a botched Justice League/Transformers comic, as well as Robotech/Voltron, so...

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>>1034159
Not much, but not this.

>>1034294
/co/ is terrible, as these ideas show.

Go away.

>>1033909
there's Dran

>>1034369
Oh shit I forgot all about that dude. I didn't read whatever fanfic quests he ran but I actually played Overhuman quests and liked them pretty well. I don't think I can forgive him for creating the abomination that was AOPH quest though.

>>1034390
hence why he must be remembered for all the bad ways you can stick fanfic in where it doesn't belong.

>>1033937
>>1033909
If we look at the other QMs who did SMT(well, Persona)....

TT also did an OC quest after he dropped Persona 2129.

Then there's DM-Casual, but the OC quest heavily borrows from digital devil.

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>>1034140
Holy shit

>>1032534
>Player Question:
When the QM abides by trollvotes. It's a sure sign the quest will be shit. The same when the players start pushing for smut and the QM yields.

>>1034941
What counts as a troll vote?

>>1035056
>name your character
>You are Flassid Cox

>>1035086
https://youtu.be/zPGb4STRfKw

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>When players start to name/tripfag when it isn't even a civ quest

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>>1035152

>when anon implies civs are quests

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>>1034002
Schteel is a qt christmas cake.
We know that much from the irc.

>>1034009
please don't bully the planefag.
His paranoia and fear has already jumped out of the helo without a chute and he's gone loco.
Turns out that KCQ has spread enough that various admirals have heard of the quest.
Which means the uncensored fanart by his wife, has most likely circulated through the admiral social group (which includes the real life Admiral Thomas).

>>1035230
>Turns out that KCQ has spread enough that various admirals have heard of the quest.
Sounds like total bullshit created to make a mediocre to poor quest seem special.

>>1035230
You realize that was all bullshit. Anyone can put on a trip and pretend to be someone.

>>1035230
>Turns out that KCQ has spread enough that various admirals have heard of the quest.
>Which means the uncensored fanart by his wife, has most likely circulated through the admiral social group (which includes the real life Admiral Thomas).

FAKE NEWS

Faker than that time people pretended his grandma fucking died.

FAKE BULLSHIT!

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>>1035153
>implying

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Dragon girls are go: >>1035289

>2nd person
>Present tense
Is there a more plebeian combination?

>>1035364
Yes, there's "asshole tense."

Where you constantly switch between present and past tense.

>>1035364
3rd person past tense.

>>1035230
>Schteel is a qt christmas cake.
Nah. He's a spineless cuckboi who won't even justify his crimes.

Don't make me bust out the podcast.

>>1035464
Do it for me

>>1035464
>podcast
I don't think I want to know what you're talking about

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>>1035493
>>1035493
>>1035493

Demonic Invasion Quest! Demon shenanigans go!

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Star Wars: Kuat Colle is now live and well.

>>1035720

Starcaller is running right now! Strange things are happening.
>>1035778
>>1035778
>>1035778

>>1035230
>defending planefag
>posting one of the most cancerous quest related images ever

Please go and stay go, Neco.

>>1033989
QuestDrone is the only answer

Speaking of whom, he's doing better. He's at home and loopy on painmeds but he's planning to return to HQQ on the 22nd if the Curse doesn't come for him again

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Evil Sorceress Quest returns!

>>1035811
>>1035811
>>1035811

Damn. Whats with the salt in here?

>>1036116
Shitposting. Standard business really.

>>1036127
Ah. Aight

>>1035467
>>1035469
twitch [space] tv/grimmand/v/111031344

Listen to Schteel get bullied about revved cores and lesbian rapists for an hour.

>>1036666
I want to read that thesis

>>1036666
Which quest was it?
I remember him being decent storyteller

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>>1036666
>"I like me." -GermanSchteel

Modern Necromancy Quest: Redux is up and running! Come join in!
>>1030144
>>1030144
>>1030144
Seriously, come help Liz deal with a threat somewhere between "pervy teenage boy" and "chaotic evil bloodsucking creature of the night"

>>1036709
http://anonkun.com/stories/androids-magic-mercenaries-sex-and-other-nonsense/orPRx8YQA8j7hSaxb

>>1036707
It even comes with a foreword:
>Those suffering from PTSD are supposed to return to the place that scarred them to begin healing by overcoming that dark place, so I guess that’s why I’m writing this review. I’m not even sure where to begin with this quest. It was a test of my will to even get through to the end of the posted chapters (which was up to #7 by the time of this review). The writing was poor, the characters were awful, the world is half-assed at best, and most importantly, the smut is downright painful to read. But anyone can just SAY something is bad, so join me on this wonderful ride as I try my hardest to sort out these painful, painful memories into a tour guide of a hell you’ll hopefully never have to suffer. I guess the best place to start cataloging this trainwreck would be the start.
http://pastebin.com/FUq3EDeS

Alchemical Blade Prequel Quest is now continuing! Come and join the conspiracy!

>>1030425

>>1036864
Wait
Huh
What

Help me /qtg/. I think the way my quest started was crap and I'm tempted to reboot it with better world building and set pieces. Problem is, I've already gone through the first major arc and I get up to 20 unique IPs per thread.

Am I being a retard? What should I do?

>>1037289
Just make the next arc better.

>>1037289
Which quest?

>>1037289
>Be a man and declare so, probably lose most of your players and get some infighting due to meta-discussions of how choices ended "last" time
>Introduce yourself as a "fan" doing a similar quest, probably get called out really quickly
>Keep going with the first quest until you hate yourself
>Run the reboot on another place(akun or whatever). Once you hit a good milestone, declare that you'll only run this quest, but will decide which board to run it on. Gives players a chance to like new thing.

>>1037289
>>1037331
Clarification: I don't hate the way my current quest has turned out. I just think it could've been better if a few tweaks had been made at the beginning.

>>1037289

Anything and everything you do is crap and you are guaranteed to find a better way to do it afterwards.

Take and use the lessons you learn to move forward, not to redo what's done.

>>1037353
Then make a better second arc instead.

>>1037353
Keep moving forwards.

>>1037353
Save all the good tweaks you can't use atm for your next quest.
You could just run the same quest, but by the time you've goner further with this one you're guaranteed to have more, better ideas.
Dropping things on a whim of "could've done 's" is unfair to your players and pretty shitty.

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>>1037518
>>1037375
>>1037337
Thanks for the advice guys. I'll stick to what I have now.

>>1037634
Shot in the dark, Lamplighter quest.

>>1037738
Not even remotely close.

>>1037744
Galaxy
Earthbender
Star Wars
Modern Necro
Hex Maniac
Post Apoc Amnesiac

Any of these hit close?

>>1037851
At least one of those is definitely not his.

>>1037851
Only one of those is warmer.

>>1037869
Starcaller

>>1037851
I can say with some confidence that it isn't Galaxy. For all the missteps along the way, I have it on good authority that the QM genuinely enjoys running the quest. Even if I'm so rusty that I'm basically shit-tier at this point. Assuming I was ever anything but.

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>>1037888
But I'm the QM of Starcaller.

I will admit that my first couple threads were rocky as fuck, but I at least think I've moved past that.

>>1033909

I want to run something OC, but I barely have time to QM my current quest.

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What was the beginning of the end for Shadow Quest? The whole Flint/Nemesis debacle was obviously the point that broke the playerbase, but it was really just a culmination of issues that had been building for ages. Subtle and not so subtle railroading (fucking Vonnegut), dice rolls that seemed to continue until crit-fail, condescending feedback coupled with image macros, and a playerbase full of people that didn't care and/or deliberately choose shitty options to fuck with people.

>>1038127
Question: are you discussing the "downfall" of Shadow Quest as a story/narrative, or as a quest? Because those are definitely two different claims

>>1038137
Let's go for both.

As a narrative? I think that everything post-Erebus-past-reveal was kinda mediocre, but that could also be due to the playerbase fracturing again.

>>1038127
When the QM decided it was his novel instead of a quest.

>>1038146

See the problem is if your players are really fucking stupid you have to not give a shit about the narrative/theme/any care for the actual story part of your quest.

Which means you have to run something which you are completely detached from in a story sense if you want to not either get butthurt watching them fuck it up, railroad or end up pulling a "this is a novel now so fuck off players"

But if you are detached from the narrative elements of your quest to let others play in your playground, your interest will either wane or disappear completely and so you drop it unless you really enjoy the gamist elements of your quest.

So the best solution is to run an almost completely gamist quest or railroad so hard that all you get are people along for the fucking ride.

>>1038146
That would be, what, post-first battle of Kelvere? Prior to that point, shit was pretty fluid in reaction to player desires, and it was around the point that he started referencing coming events in dire tones.

>>1038149
I think the issue with SM's railroading was less that it happened and more that he tried to disguise it behind dice rolls and that, despite his disclaimer that it was a dictatorship and not a democracy, he continued to let retards ruin shit and then post smug and patronizing comments after the fact. He wanted to have his cake and eat it too.

>>1038149
Or just be interested in where your players will take something. That's the most basic tenet of DMing, and it carries over into questing just fine.

This isn't difficult.

>>1038153

You can, theoretically, choose your players in a D&D game and I've dropped shitty players before.

You can not choose who decides your quest is worthwhile.

>>1038153
That works for DM'ing since you have a small group of friends participating consistently.

A quest will randomly have people leaving and joining without getting themselves up to speed, and there's little that can be done to prevent a handful of shitheads from trying to derail the quest.

>>1038141
Honestly? Yeah. The sequence where the entire past was laid out may be my favorite thing I've read in the past 5 years, 10 even. But after that.. I think by 50 or 60 threads before that point Shadow Quest was needing to be taken out backout back and shot.

All the gods and that whole situation was probably the best way to end the story, as was the situation with Erebus, but there definitely was plenty of extra stuff that, of Shadow Quest was ever seriously shown to an editor, would be cut out immediately.

I doubt I'd ever be able to realistically reread that quest, especially since the beginning feels nothing like the end. It changed as the players changed, as SM changed his ideas about it, and as the dozens and dozens of threads piled on. I wouldn't say the story really broke - it just struggled under its own weight in resolving the most important plotthreads while plenty of others were lost in time.

Shadow's storyline goes from a braindead elemental learning how to talk to a little girl to a leader of the free world. While I have fond memories of that trajectory and some of the great moments in between (the first encounter with Angels, and everything up until the Escape, for one), it may not work as well as a coherent narrative all the eay through. As each new thread came out, it worked as the logical extension of the previous, oh, let's say 20 threads or so. 20 threads before, it's the logical extension of the 20 threads before /that/, and so on. For the ending to feel like the logical extension of the beginning..

Well, I doubt anyone would make that claim. The story doesn't come full circle like others might. Shadow Quest really is a story more about the journey, the lore, the moments like when Shadow discovers alcohol for the first time or nat 1's grabbing a book from the library or other heart warming/dramatic/tragic/etc moments.

As a quest.. I mean, look at the trajectory Banished Quest took. Soma let almost 100 threads of slow relationship development and attraction between the MC and first girl get told to fuck itself due to a nat 1 and that mage sex scene get projected to all the party. Lols were had at the time, sure, but it absolutely shat on everything that came before it.

Shadow Quest had its shitty moments, its mistakes (ALL THE ELEMENTS GOD HAHAHA), miss opportunities and basically irrelevant side plots, but did it ever actively betray itself on a whim? I don't think so.

Then again, the players lost their goddamn mind so hard and so many times it makes planefag's shitstorms look like kids throwing sand at the ocean. People cared enough to rip each other's throats out, and the first dozen or so times it felt.. authentic. Not bitter and spiteful like the latter half of the quest, but genuine and passionate.

Shadow Quest not only created opinions - it creates politics, where those with the loudest, most numerous voices won out.

>>1038165
>Then again, the players lost their goddamn mind so hard and so many times it makes planefag's shitstorms look like kids throwing sand at the ocean. People cared enough to rip each other's throats out, and the first dozen or so times it felt.. authentic. Not bitter and spiteful like the latter half of the quest, but genuine and passionate.
I think the blame for that largely rests on SM. He pretty actively riled up the playerbase with all of his happenings, and he had a really bad habit of making situations that had consequences that felt like we were railroaded into them but he felt were justified. He often had issues with "there is one right way to do this in my opinion," and him constantly threatening the playerbase with the threat of death/failure/quest-ending did absolutely nothing to reduce player tension.

The only point of comparison I have for massive quests is Fate Stay Again, which ended up collapsing under its own weight and having the QM abscond before the end, so I can't really comment on Banished Quest. I think that Shadow Quest's big issue wasn't a betrayal of the quest, it was just a really drawn-out reduction of player agency. Early on, the players had total control of where the quest was going to go (is it evil shadow overlord quest? is it learning to be human quest? is it lolsorandum autism quest?), but around the middle SM started planning for bigger and better twists, and the players ability to really affect things started dwindling. Obviously, this all culminated in the Flint-Nemesis debacle, which made the players feel that SM was going to move the quest where he wanted it regardless of what the players did, and the Erebus-past reveal, which ended with the players literally losing control of the MC.

>>1038185
I mean, I can absolutely understand why SM did it - there is something glorious about feeling Anon experience the tension in the story you're writing. Reveling in it can be fun, if done appropriately and with moderation. SM.. well, he channeled it into nearly all of his QM persona, and I agree, it didn't help the growing issue.

A part of the reduction in agency comes with the need to resolve necessary plot threads - if anon had full control, they could run off and fuck around until the heat death of the universe. While I'm sure there was a much, much better way to go about it, I can't fault SM for doing it. Banished Quest is literally side quest the quest and began with a similar feel to SQ - a large world with total freedom to wander around in. It.. well, Soma's writing was about all that kept me going, and even then I just couldn't care about the MC's story, or lack of it, anymore. So bringing Shadow Quest into a more narrative focus may've been the best option at the time. It's not like quests can be edited, though, so we'll never knowwhat the most polished version of both the story and the quest could've been.

> Fate Stay Again
Every time I thought I'd forgotten and moved on from that quest and everything that was spectacular about AC-Guy in general, I die a little more inside. That quest was what got me into Fate as a series, funnily enough.

Did F/SA not actually end? I thought he had cobbled together an ending

>>1038195
>Did F/SA not actually end? I thought he had cobbled together an ending
Nope. He's made a couple vague hints on Twitter that he might return to questing, but F/SA is dead as a doornail.

Which is probably for the best, there were major inconsistencies in the timeline/events that he fucked up on and were going to kill the climax.

I would agree in general that a certain amount of player agency had to be curtailed to move the plot forward, but Shadow Quest went too far. The quest was practically running itself by the end; the players were just there to roll dice and pretend their combat choices were meaningful. I think the complete lack of transparency in the combat system was another huge issue towards the end. The dice didn't really mean anything from the player's perspective since we didn't know any of the modifiers or the DC's and what a good and bad roll results in seemed entirely arbitrary at times. That and how to handle allies in combat.

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>>1038199
>Telling the players the DC

Nah

>>1033927
So unless you have diehardfans or some "popular" theme, /qst/ threads have it hard to maintain a quest?

Is there less people on /qst/ than since the start?

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How about some good points.
I like ideas like the Archonium of Shadow Quest in theme. At the time I was mad but think of it this way; the players were punished for not asking questions and just making assumptions on what things are or aren't.
Is there really any more natural way to Quest? This is what players do all the time, but this time it was done in the one place where they a: knew their daughteru was in danger by just existing and b: knew that Fang was a tricksy motherfucker and c: didn't understand the full extent of Fang's desperation.
The whole aged-up thing was stupid tho.

Then there was being one of the only two people to figure out the obvious trap at endgame and vote appropriately...
Pretty sure everyone was either stupid/tired/pretending at that point.

Also how dare you discuss SQ without it's glorious androgynous fanart.

>>1038295
4chan stats says "pretty much."

>>1038291
You don't have to tell them the DC outright, but the system can't be entirely opaque either.

>>1038303
Archonium was fine.

Towards the end their was a combination of a general apathy due to a lack of agency, coupled with reductions in the playerbase and assholes voting for shitty choices on purpose.

SM's strengths were in writing dialogue and world building. Most of the quest bits sucked. XP shit led to constant fighting and greediness.

>>1038303
I don't think they knew what androgynous meant. Fuck I just remembered that creepy player who kept dumping pictures of his creepy life sized male "dolls"

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>>1038307
>XP shit led to constant fighting and greediness.
This is something I actually liked.

Just watching it even, only voting for the things when they come up. The level of vitriol and salt was constant, like a 1/4 to 1/2 shitstorm every time the character levels up. And he knew that it would do this, but still did it anyway. I found it awful in both senses of the word.

Specifically the greediness. It drove people to want to consume, and when you throw in a character that people care about and they start having things to protect it grows into a very classical 'git stroongr save the day hero' thing, but it was still tearing people and souls apart in horribly savage ways to level up Movement from 3 to 4.

It was the clearest thing that was designed specifically for getting people to care about their abilities and personal choices. Same with Humanity/Temerity.

I do think that XP spending abilities are fucking garbage though. Those felt way less thought out than the majority of the tree, and were more like "narrative jumps" where instead of gaining XP we'd spend it to get past some narrative limitation. Problem being, as has been pointed out, the narrative would just jump into another bigger limitation.
Having those abilities cost Humanity would've been more on-point, I think.

>Most of the quest bits sucked.
I think the only quest bits that truly sucked was the agency and dice use. The only part that's truly meaningful. He wasn't a stellar DM and it showed early. All the while he wrote with plot in mind, but heavy handed it hard even in the beginning. Plain and straight, I was first to remind SM three times of things along the idea of "our character wouldn't say that, we made a promise not to. Why are you telling Auriel what the Duke told us?" (Tarun Gakth) and the others involving Ila sometime around Haven and a later Airship thing.

In each case he was trying to forward plot in the background through shadow's voice in a way that bypassed the players' choices and previous statements in things which either ought to have been prompts of a character pushing shadow or things which didn't deserve a vote. Rereading the quest shows a good dozen other warning signs that he leans towards heavily crafted (choo choo) narrative, but it only crashed together when we got in the way of his plot with sheer genuine determination and good ideas. Which is what made that situation so complete shit, for me, a QM throwing out good player ideas for no reasons other than plot deserves stubbed toes for the rest of their life.

As for dice use, holding a banked nat 1 for QM use at any time is just retarded. The kind of paranoia it made wasn't even standard in-quest distrust, it was an ever present meta level "fuck you," and the worst way to handle things.

But, c'est la vie, people were given the option to turn it back and voted against it, accepting his god awful mistakes. That was true turning point for me. It was hard to care after that.

>>1032534
>Player Question:

-I did not like the tone, setting, characters, or writing style
-It went into a direction i didn't like before i became attached enough to brush it off
-I don't enjoy the system (if there is a game system at all)
-The QM seems too distant or doesn't engage the community for anything but writing the updates and answering questions as tersely as possible
-The community seems dead or not engaging enough
-Requires knowledge of previous quests because they all share a same universe/setting, and this is not pointed out anywhere in the OP
-Simply forgot about it
-It updates too sporadically

Those are instant deal-breakers,

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>>1038317
Did somebody say Dolls?
Truly, SQ had some of the weirdest namefags outside of Fuck Quest and BFQ.

>>1038337
I remember he said that he "just likes pretty things" when asked why he has a male doll collection

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>>1038342
>Oops. Was I staring? Teehee.

>>1038331

I wonder how Joker Quest managed to somehow evade the railroading and the mechanical issues. Like, the XP system is even more punishing but with less salt.

That reminds me, I need to do the SQ review at some point. I read PGQ, but gave up.

>>1038012
>>1037962
I'm just guessing any quest that isn't my own.
I like both of yours, don't take offense to it!

>>1038349
In Joker, our sheer determination and bumbling actually accomplished continuing the quest. There's enough agency there that even the QM doesn't know everything that could happen. I think it's a much more balanced quest, in that regard.

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>>1038337
>>1038344

>>1038344
Oh fuck get that shit out of here

What's the weirdest thing ever happen in a serious Quest?

First contender being
>>1038344
>>1038337

>>1038352
None taken, I was just trying to help narrow it down through process of elimination.

>>1038331
>I think the only quest bits that truly sucked was the agency and dice use.
Once you take away player agency (choice) and the dice (game mechanics), what's left other than the story?

Yeah, the Sword of Damocles was bugfuck retarded. You shouldn't have situations where the entire quest is save-or-die, especially not as the result of poorly understood metaphysical self-conflict.

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>>1038376

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>>1038376
>>1038427
The context is even more disturbing than the art.

>>1038430
>>1038427
What is the context?

>>1038438
A dream where they got married and rotted to death together. Which may have been an alternate reality. We were not sure.

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>>1038467
Well, that's weird.

>>1036917
Revved cores, anon.
Revved cores.

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Dragon girls, Fox girls, and Sorceresses of several sorts all playing house. The normal kind, not the lewd kind.

>>1038588

>>1032534
A Tale in Ruins: A Dice-less Storytelling Game of Making our own twists of specific on specific TV shows/Books/Movies/Video Game properties/fandoms, is open for more suggestions! >>1038658

>>1038583
But y

>>1038695
Because Schteel is a lazy motherfucker. Just...really, REALLY lazy.

>>1038467
>rotted to death together
Got eaten by worms at their own wedding, you mean

>>1038695
Because Schteel sucks at everything, but especially eroticism.

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Never ever.

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>Introduce female character
>Make her interesting enough to be liked
>Players: "I WANNA FUK HER!!!!XDXDXD"
>"Umm, can we flirt with her, QM?!"
>"Found our waifu!"

>>1038879
>Introduce a female character
>She's not particularly likable or anything
>Players waifu her anyway because that's what's available
:^)

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>>1038931
>Players will waifu anything with a vagina
They have to be either meme-ing or are that desperate for female interaction.

>>1038931
>introduce ambiguous circumstance with enemy female vs. enemy male
>players side with female
>female mindfucks them and teleports them to nowhere
>players find child female
>adopt immediately
>marry not even four ingame months later
/:^]

I miss Crusty

>>1038931
That's far worse.

>>1038879
Hitting it off with a character that's not 'designated love interest' is fine, you fucking cunt.

>>1038953
Which one?

>>1038984
Not when she's the first girl and players do the same thing again for the next girl they meet. I'm not against romance but geez, do they want fuck anything that moves.

>when you have to decide if you should plot armor the love interest or let things run their course

>>1038994
Well that is fucking terrible when it does happen. Until you make the MC Johnny Bravo.

>>1039005
Harming them is the ultimate shitstorm, but go for it.

>>1038991
SQ.

>>1039005
Nothing wrong with logical conclusions predicated on player agency and attention span.

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> mfw the waifu wars start for real in my quest and whatever story I had gets ignored for players getting their dicks wet

>>1038991
Just in case you were asking which one they married; it was the kid.

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Star Wars: Kuat Colle is now live and well.

>>1039141

>quest is 2 years old
>quest is somehow shorter than my quest that has been running for months at best
>quest is actually shit
>quest has 20 times the discussion that mine does
Man, Akun statistics were a fucking mistake.

They just make me jealous of these lazy fucking shit at writing cunts that still enjoy massive success by coasting off a pandering premise. How the fuck do you write for 2 years and have just over 100k words? A year and a half hiatus? What the fuck?

>>1039158
Akun is shit. More at 11. Akun has always been crap. It's just site for smut quests and has hardly good quests with great writing.

>>1039158
Which quests?

>>1039158
Killertpu?

Marvel Redux Quest #2 is live and running!

Typo Edition!

>>1039245

>>1039158
I'm sure your quest is good anon

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Kill Six Billion Demons quest, set during the Universal War and the Second Conquest.

Yes / No?

>>1039662
No

>>1039662
What's it about? The webcomic that is.

>>1038952
>With a vagina
I've seen a riot shield waifued anon.

>>1039662
If you just made it a fully plated OC version of the Universal War and the Second Conquest, sure.
The entertaining thing about KSBD is less setting backdrops and more the characters going through them. Specifically, a normal person put between various interpretations of divinity and creation with a twisted sort of fate. If you wanna do KSBD fanfiction you'll need to write it with that in mind.

Otherwise no. You'll just make fanfiction of a niche western Isekai webcomic.

>>1039773
Nah, I meant specifically the various colorful demiurges and a new arrival to Throne. Not a reskinned Allison. Would you say that's not gonna be good?

>>1039700
It's basically a mix of the weirder parts of TES and Exalted.

>>1039801
I can't say one way or another, I don't know how you'll QM it.
It's fanfiction of a super obscure IP... consider that some fairly popular games have fanfiction quests with 15-22ish mean participants, and KSBD is a lore dense web comic with multiple conflicting sources with only narrow points of agreement where the results of events are obvious or spelled out entirely. Which is no different from a properly built OC setting where history contains degrees of ambiguity.

It doesn't sound easy to run, is what I'd say.

But hey, maybe you're Soma? He talked about running fanfiction of KSBD along with a bunch of other stuff so if you're him go right ahead.

>>1039973
I am not, but thanks for your input. I might start this weekend.

Setting up Dats soon, should be within the hour

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>>1040090
>>1040090
>>1040090

Jedi Knight Quest is back up!

>>1039700
It's some faggy horseshit where every single person that matter is either a female or a tranny and they're all flirting with each other.

But it's """"""gnostic"""""" and """""esoteric""""" because the generic blue skinned waifubait alien has slightly pointy teeth or whatever

>>1040133
Man bro, are you a stormtrooper because the themes and worldbuilding was two inches from your fucking face and somehow you still missed it.

>>1040133
Everybody point at them and laugh for being so wrong. Maybe we can shame them from ever speaking again

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>>1040133

>>1040157
Anything that has more than one female main character is a no-go I guess.

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Pilot Quest will be running in 45 minutes!

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>>1040160
>>1040157
>>1040176
>>1040183
Name one noteworthy and important character that ISN'T a girl/tranny.

Even the only fucking interesting antagonist who was the only thing keeping me interested in the lolsorandumb shitfest just revealed themselves to be a faggot tranny angel recently

>>1040253
Zoss. 2 Michael. Jagganoth.

(Praam Nand. Mammon.)

Easy, done.

>>1040253
As >>1040271 mentioned. And even if those folks weren't on the list, why the fuck should it matter?

Even your juvenile bitching about the 'tranny' angel plot line is missing the essence of what White Chains was complaining about in the Void.

>>1040253
Any of the angels except for White Chain, Liquid, and (now probably) Star Juggernaut

Hard to be really upset about the angels since they don't exactly have genders or even biology that compares to humans.

Also, how can anyone hate Ciocie Ciolle? Or Meti for that matter

>>1040271
Don't forget Solomon or Zane the not!Damsel in Distress.

>>1040285
>why the fuck should it matter?
Because your worod is shallow and uninteresting if only one gender can ever impact it in a meaningful way.

On top of that, it smacks of either political agenda or covering up your failure to tell an interesting story with crass waifu pandering.
>>1040271
A fat lot they've all amounted to.

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>>1040312

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>>1040321
>I have no argument so I'm just going to post pictures and hope no one realizes I'm retarded!

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>>1040312
>Solomon
>A fat lot they've all amounted to.

>>1040337
I see you're resorting to the "u mad bro" technique. Could use some work, my ignorant friend

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>>1040354
>no I'm going to say u mad and call you iggnant and hope that makes you go away!
That's nice.

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>>1040312
's an interesting claim there buddy, that the story has failed to be interesting. I wonder how it's gonna hold up against the complex characterization, engaging worldbuilding, consistent flow of action, wonderful art, and -

Oh wait. It doesn't.

Jagganoth threatens to destroy all of creation. Solomon and Incubus are his equals as co-rulers of all of reality. The Conquering King was notably male, 2 Michael and the Metatron play kingmakers from the void, Cio's husband schemes and dares beyond even her willingness to do so, but, hey, men just aren't important in this comic.

I don't have a .gif for sarcastic jazz hands so you get this instead.

>>1040321
>>1040337
No, he's right.

Like, Juggernaut? The cool skeleton riding a throne-cycle?
Actually a girl with a tragic backstory lmao!
Let's not even get into how Cio slowly morphed into a waifu over the course of the comic.

Ugh, and then there's the whole fucking setup to the story.
Everyone thinks the chosen one is Zaid!
Actually it's this sorority girl.

SJW bullshit.

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>>1040385
>complex characterization
That's precious.
"LOLI LOL I'M SUCH A NERDY GRRL THAT MARY SUE'S THROUGH EVERYTHING"
"AND I'M HER BLUE FANFICTION WRITING NOT!WAIFU. DON'T HIT ON ME U SILLY BOIS"
"AND I'M A SAD TRANDY ANGEL WHO'S SAD BECAUSE SHE'S A TRANNY AND THOSE MEAN OLD STRICT WHITE MAKES I MEAN ANGELS WON'T ACCEPT ME!"
>engaging worldbuilding
You mean the shit that follows the 40K method of "if the name takes 40 minutes to pronounce then it's DEEP and ENGAGING" and all falls by the wayside in the favor of waifushit anyways?
>consistent flow of action
I'd hardly call it constant. Or even good. Narratively or just action, the story meanders pathetically.
>wonderful art
Pffffffffffffffffft.

The art is garbage. It's an inconsistent, blobby mess now watch you say "I'd like to see you do better!"

Fuck I have no idea about this series but I hate tranny bullshit and I hate Vox so what do i do?

Um, uh

>>1040285

You suck for your opinion!

Yeah! YEAH!

>>1040337
>>1040373
Okay. Solomon saved the "Waifubait" in the first pages and mentored them (for a slim given meaning of mentor).
They're also THE origin of the setting's modern state, and they're way far from done from having an impact on the Waifubait.

You said name one, this is one, but several have been given. If you can't argue that each and every one of these are not noteworthy or important characters when they've shown themselves to be the fallacy falls on your side for proving the doubt.

There's also the major behind-the-scenes angel antag, Michael, Juggernaut Star's bossman.

>>1040386
SJW shit doesn't point out that these kinds of characters are monsters. Because they're politically motivated by identity they consider things fine so long as they're insisted by their gender. Comics that do that, and shoehorn in homosexuality, don't go through the extra trouble. That isn't the case for KSBD.

>>1040432
Now you're calling Allison a Sue, so prove that too.

>>1040448
You're alright, Trick.

>>1040432
Or, nevermind even. You're just buttmad about the recent character reveal, aren't you?

>>1040461
>That isn't the case for KSBD
Nah.
>Allison and Cio
>Tranny angel shit (if looking like a human is so bad, why can't they look like male humans?)
>Maya (the strongest person in the entire universe is a fat brown woman! Sooo subversive.)
>Mottom
>The stupid engineer girl they picked up recently that no one cares about why is she there
>Cio again

It's SJW shit.

>>1040461
>They're also THE origin of the setting's modern state, and they're way far from done from having an impact on the Waifubait.
And now they have zero goddamn presence. Congratulations, your Obi-Wan who disappears after the first act is your only noteworthy """male""". That's exactly my fucking point.
>>1040478
I found it unsurprising and yet disappointing all the same.

>>1040478
The tranny shit was dumb and obviously shoehorned in at the last minute to appeal to Tumblr.

It makes no sense given his previous character.

I will say I am tired of people doing that shit like in Steven Universe where it's like

>These are clearly lesbians

NO THEY ARE SPACE ROCKS HOW DARE YOU

>They are lesbians. This is a show about three lesbians raising a fat child.

SPACE ROCKS FORGET ALL THE CREATURES THAT LOOK EXTREMELY LIKE HUMAN FEMALES THAT HAVE SEX ALL THE TIME!!!!!!!

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>>1040088
Death Among the Stars Quest 61 is up!
>>1040520
>>1040520

>>1040491
>Tranny angel shit (if looking like a human is so bad, why can't they look like male humans?)

If gender is 'insipid' (2 Michael), why call each other 'brother'?

All these stormtroopers just missin' shit up in here.

>>1040535
>>1040535
>>1040535

Beleaguered Prince Quest is now up and running.

>>1040534
God your posts just ooze with exactly why you are a horrible fit for fucking 4chan. Goddammit go to fucking /co/ or reddit or somewhere else you fucking cunt.

You might be totally right as I know nothing about this series but the fact that you have unironically wrote the fucking phrase

>stormtroopers

twice now just screams how . . . fuck me, mate.

Like just please fucking stop being you.

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>>1040534
>if you disagree with me you're a Nazi
And you say this comic isn't SJW

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>>1040534
Vox, never stop being you. Keep pissing Trick off.

>>1040548
I don't have much anyone else to be, Trick.

>>1040534
>If gender is 'insipid' (2 Michael), why call each other 'brother'?
Woah, good work! You've discovered one of Abaddon's many, many plotholes.

Even one of the angels bitching White Chain out for being a deviant had an entirely human body save for his head, and some wings.
White Chain also couldn't pass for human, with all the extra eyes, feathers, and wings.

Abaddon just doesn't really think these things through, and it's clear he wanted to whine about muh patriarchy more than he wanted to build a consistent and interesting world.

>>1040563

A fucking corpse, for one.

>>1040556
Broseph, if I can reference you back to >>1040157 you may notice I was calling back to the insult from earlier.

Get'cher sights checked buddy.

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>>1040573
Yes. And I ignored you trying to slung by calling me a literal neonazi the first time because I'm a better person than you and was willing to attack your argument instead if trying to make you into a strawman I can burn as an effigy to the god of """progressivism""".

But now that your entire argument is just "I don't like your words, that makes you a Nazi", I'm going to point out your cultish goddamn shame tactics for what they are.

>>1040598

This.

>>1040573

>>1040598
>trying to slung
Sling mud, rather. Damn phone's acting up

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>>1040497
Then I don't know why you've read it this far when considering it so unentertaining. At least, say, calling out character inconsistency has something to it. Other than that it just sounds like you can't stand to see people talking about something you don't like.

>your Obi-Wan who disappears after the first act is your only noteworthy male. That's exactly my fucking point.
But this is only true if you continue ignoring all the other ones that others and myself have mentioned. Which you've consistently done very well.

>>1040491
>>1040569
SJW shit does not, ever, make their own "people" look like the bad guys. That's what you're missing to make it true SJW. It's not like it's the best thing ever, it's western Isekai in a webcomic pulling from as many religious and thematic peels as it can, but SJW is pretty far from what it is.

Not even counting that the eviler half of the creator and chaos is a woman, which is also something SJW wouldn't do.

>>1040532
Actually I have something you might like Trick.

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>>1040598
If this is your first introduction to Star Wars I can only stare in awe.

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>>1040548
pt2 4 u.

>>1040618
>make their own "people" look like the bad guys
How does Allison look bad?

The only time Cio looked bad was in her backstory, which is tragic and to make up for it she's now a fanfic-writing hyper randumb lesbian.

How does White Chain look bad?

How does Maya look bad?

Mottom was again presented as a tragic character.

Same with Juggernaut.

It's apparently okay that they're horrible, awful people, so long as they have some tragic backstory.

>>1040618
I fucking knew it. I fucking knew you were STORYTIEM shilling your own faggotry again.

And now you'll switch IP's aND "happen upon" this thread in an effort to prove me wrong.

You were always a shit, SU is still propaganda, you ain't clever, and Iron Giant was mediocre at best.

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>>1040643
>This autistic paranoia
Keep going man, keep going. Gonna grab some popcorn.

>>1040619
Nice backpedaling, cutie pie. Now scamper along and go write your cringy waifu quest about dungeoneering lesbians or whatever

>>1040619

>I wasn't referring at all to the idea of stormtroopers being nazis or the stormfront internet site where all the online neo nazis congregate

>I was just making a "stormtroopers miss when they shoot" LOL joke from Star Wars because I'm some 40 year old faggot

God Vox if it was anyone but you I'd call you out on trying to hide behind that dumbass double meaning to disguise your fucking mud slinging but I know you well enough to know that's exactly what fucking happened.

Goddammit you are just, like, fucking, fuck me I hate you.

>>1040647
Oh fuck off asshole, that was me, not him, and I was having a bad few days.

For the record, though, namefags are still subhuman.

>>1040648
> Make a joke about /missing/ the point
> Clearly the stormtroopers referenced can't be the ones that have been the butt of this joke for decades

Stay mad, broseph.

>>1040569
> Woah, good work! You've discovered one of Abaddon's many, many plotholes.

I'd buy this more if Chains herself hadn't called it out at the time too. Maybe it is a hole but personally I'm betting on that getting explored more.

>>1040677
Best way to hide a plothole from your audience is to have a character point it out, but then never really rectify or address it beyond that.

>>1040682
I suppose we'll have to see how it shakes out, then.

>>1040696
It'll shake out in a heavy-handed metaphor for being transgender.

Abaddon is an SJW.
He lives in fucking Portland.

>>1040696
Or not, because abbadon is a meandering faggot who is too concerned with revealing which character is LGBT

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Pilot quest is running right now!

>>1040688
>>1040688
>>1040688

Today I learned Kill 6 Billion Demons was Tranny SJW bullshit and that Vox should die.

>>1040734
Good.

>>1040734
>Trusting anything you see on 4chan

>>1040636
Well, this is going to be entirely up to interpretation.
Allison is an inexperienced college girl who, If the author is worth a damn, will suffer more than just physical pain to push through a struggle. I don't think Allison is yet a strong character at all, but I also don't think she's really accomplished anything special but minor build up. The reasons she cared about her boyfriend are also childishly frail.

I agree with Cio, because I dislike that character but not just because of the in-universe fanfiction. Cio, I think, is just a plainly bad written character. All the characterization is simple to a T, and they're pretty boring.

White Chain I'm unsure about.

Maya turned into a killer because of adoration related to the cutting arts, I have no way to say she looks good, she looks somewhat neutral so far but her backstory is at least questionable.

Mottom still looks like an evil idiot to me, anon. She's an insightless bitch that kills out of fear, she's a case study for bad ex's. Also, it wasn't presented as tragic. It was the character saying "oh look how tragic it is isn't power awful? pity me little girl!" and then getting BTFO about it.

Juggernaut's a genocidal menace and angels aren't creatures worthy of forgiveness.

I will agree that Abbadon is overplaying tragic backstories to make Throne and its character's look like victims of circumstance, because that's just obviously lazy writing. But SJW is on a different tier. Faggy is acceptable.

>>1040643
I'm glad I'm not, actually. He's way got more experience pointing out problems with things like this and that's not experience I'm gonna go out of my way to earn.

>>1040734
Don't forget: I'm STORYTIEM.

>>1040747
Put your name back on, Abaddon.

>>1040748
>Don't forget: I'm STORYTIEM.
I don't know what that is, but it sounds like a collosal faggot.

You fit the bill pretty well in that case.

>>1040764
>B-but that's why I'm here, w-with you...

>>1040748
>The reasons she cared about her boyfriend are also childishly frail
Literally just so she can be a lesbian now.
In a good story, she'd actually care about finding him, or at least she'd be a lesbian in the first place and would be looking for her girlfriend.

>Cio, I think, is just a plainly bad written character. All the characterization is simple to a T, and they're pretty boring.
Good, I'm glad we agree.

>White Chain I'm unsure about.
Don't be. She exists mainly for Abaddon to push his tranny shit.

>Maya turned into a killer because of adoration related to the cutting arts, I have no way to say she looks good, she looks somewhat neutral so far but her backstory is at least questionable.
Her design is clearly an attempt to pander to Tumblr. There's no reason for her to be, at least, obese - as Abaddon himself has realised of late, having drawn her with a much thinner waist and overall more attractive proportions.

>It was the character saying "oh look how tragic it is isn't power awful? pity me little girl!" and then getting BTFO about it.
Yeah, in-universe. But out of it she's still some woman who was abused by an evil male all her life.
SJW shit.

>Juggernaut's a genocidal menace and angels aren't creatures worthy of forgiveness.
Hahaha doesn't stop Abaddon from trying.

>But SJW is on a different tier
Nah this is SJW shit. Not over the top SJW shit, certainly, but the comic is undoubtedly written by an SJW, just one that's also a vaguely competent writer.
Vaguely.

>>1040734
It took you this long to realize that vox deserves death?

>>1040779
No.

That's just a fact I relearn every goddamn day he opens his shitty fucking mouth.

Holy shit.

[FUCKING TRIGGERED]

>>1040785
We had such love once, Trick.

>>1040810
No we didn't.

I reviewed your quest because it was shit and it was the only way to express how much I think you're a fucking faggot without just calling you a fucking faggot.

FUCK YOU DAD!

>>1032534

Is it OK if I list Left Beyond Quest?

>>1039018 and preceding.

>>1040776
I'll agree with you if there's a lesbian sex scene or fade to black while they fly the high flag of Matriarchy over Solomon's sodomized corpse. I've seen too much SJW shit to call this genuine SJW shit.

Even calling it SJW-lite still feels dishonest. Abbadon's other stuff isn't even debatable compared to KSBD in it's corruption, so I'll wait to trash it until it's realized.

And if that day comes I'll post on the QTG about how much of a shit they are, and how much of a SJW they are, but not until then.

>>1040810
Vox shut the fuck up.

>>1040870
NO!

GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE GIESTKLEMPNER BEFORE YOU GET HURT IN THE CROSSFIRE!

>>1040870
>Four IPs
Ouch.

Where did vox even come from? He strikes me as someone from the tumblr colony known as /co/ or just tumblr itself

>>1040817
Well then y'fucked up 'cause your review was genuinely helpful.

>>1040903

You're almost on the money. he's some guy from other parts of the internet that decided to start running a quest on 4chan. He is probably the type of white person to be all about "respecting other people's cultures" or respecting tranny gender identity by using the "proper" pronouns but simultaneously refuses to respect the actual culture of the site he is using to pimp out for his quest fanbase and continue to be a giant newfaggot but unfortunately the state of 4chan has decayed so much that nobody gives a shit anymore about absolute, RECKLESS NEWFAGGOTRY THE LIKES OF WHICH MAKE ME FUCKING CRINGE MY EYEBALLS INTO THE FUCKING STRATOSPHERE!

>>1040907

Of course the review was genuinely helpful because if it wasn't it would just be salty bitching which is fucking unbecoming and happens to be exactly what I'm doing right now.

PLEASE FUCKING KILL YOURSELF.

It was also supposed to make you shut the fuck up about asking for criticism but of course you keep asking for more.

By the way guys could you stop using trips? Thanks.

>>1040989
Take off yours first 75XFKWfU

>Wait but I can't

You can cycle your IP every single time you post but you don't.

If you won't dedicate yourself to absolute anonymity with every post then why should anyone else.

Holy shit, why is Trick such an edgy faggot.

It's like he wants to be some little tryhard planefag.

>>1041004
Because this is my safe space and names makes me feel vulnerable.
Can't you just not be such a massive dong and take off your name and trip?
It's not like when the next QTG rolls around we won't know it's you when you post anyways, same as anyone who plays my quest just hasn't pointed out which faggot I am.

>>1041018
>1 post by this ID

>>1041018
>1 post by this ID

>>1041018
>1 post by this ID

>>1041043

>Do this ineffective thing that won't hide your vibrant personality Trick.

>So we can pretend anonymity means something these days even though it clearly doesn't.
>>1041018
>1 post by this ID

>>1041116
>Do this ineffective thing that won't hide your vibrant personality Trick.
>So we can pretend anonymity means something these days even though it clearly doesn't.
Yes. Thank you, I'm glad we understand each other. But be a good boy and try removing the trip next time.

>>1041128

Only if I get genuine good boy points for my good boy behavior.

>>1041116
Take your trip off.

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>>1041136
Sure. Good Boy Points are now a thing.
I'll give you five if you drop 'em for even just one post.

After nearly an hour of internet problems, Alchemical Blade Quest is back up and running for the night!

>>1030425

>>1041245

Easiest good boy points of my whole life.

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>>1041276
God damn it I didn't fucking expect you to do this. Fuck. I had already flattened the god damn image too. This hard to change.

Good evening, quest buddies.

How are you today?

>>1041324

Getting used to this board. Looking over this thread, seems like this is where all the shitposting happens.

>>1041380
That is correct, yes.

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>>1041380
Cutie-Gee has always been the place where everyone rants and vents about things they don't want happening. It's the drama capitol of the questing community, and even sometimes manages to drag drama from other communities over here.

It's also the only place to get any kind of news on what is running and what people are excited for, so I hope you'll stick around!

Maybe pitch a quest idea you might have. You don't have to run it, but the thought exercise is important because it's the few times we seem to stop bitching about each other to discuss ideas.
What you can really do if you want to get attention is get some really good looking fanart and just keep coming back every /qtg/ thread saying "Hey guys! Look! I'm not dead! This thread will go up aaaaaany day now! Just wait! :^)"

I'm guilty of this, but I didn't do it on purpose. I did it because a major life change happened exactly the week I was going to start my quest. So, who here wants a quest about playing as a healer?

>>1040887

huh?