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>>93582
>Nut rage incident

The nut rage incident, also referred to as nutgate or nut return (Korean: 땅콩 회항, Ttangkong hoehang), occurred on December 5, 2014, at John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York City, when Korean Air vice president Heather Cho, having been dissatisfied with the way a flight attendant served her nuts on the plane, ordered the aircraft to taxi back to the airport's gate before takeoff.

First-class passengers, including Cho, were given nuts bagged in their original packaging (in conformity with the airline's procedures); Cho had expected them to be served on a plate in first class. Cho questioned the cabin crew chief about the standard procedure of serving the nuts. After a heated confrontation during which Cho assaulted him, Cho ordered him off the plane, requiring a return to the gate and delaying the flight by about 20 minutes. When the incident became public, Cho and Korean Air were heavily criticized, and in the aftermath, Cho resigned from one of her several executive positions at Korean Air. She was subsequently found guilty in Korean court of obstructing aviation safety and given a twelve-month prison sentence. The flight attendant and cabin crew chief returned to their positions by April 2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nut_rage_incident

>>93582
>[Movie] Drunken man rampaging on Korean Air flight subdued by Richard Marx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkKuJLTFR2w

>Singer Richard Marx 'restrains unruly man' on Korean Air flight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7vsrOQgx6Q

Stupid, as in the cause of it was stupid.

Who did it? Stupid did it. A whole whack of stupid.
Too stupid to live. Too stupid to change.
Too stupid to mature, to grow up, to worry about food.
And, esp, too stupid to worry about how NOT TO GET BLOWN UP for stupid.

Should have happened at night -- then the video would have been epic.

My brother's been to Tultepec. This is fucking awful, but no one wants to talk about it because it wasn't caused by an enemy we can easily get angry towards.

>>93466
why would you bomb nepal?
There are more degenerates in the US.
bomb them.

>>93473
This just so fucking true

>>93466
Solve your arab, indian, jew, nigger problem first.

Liberals pandering to the druggie crowd.

It's not even Jan 20 and Obama has abused this presidential power more than any others.

The FOUNDING FATHERS intended the pardon to be used only during rebellion to give the president the ability to forgive rebels in order to stop a rebellion. SEE WHISKEY REBELLION.

PArdons were not meant to excuse people for being FELONS

>>93402
>Liberals pandering
It's one guy Anon, The President, not "liberals".

>>93402

>and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

only place in the constitution that mentions presidential pardons

>Doesn't even use the word rebellion
>constitution written to be vague and open to interpretation
>fuckwit who thinks he knows anything about what the founding fathers intended
>talking out ass

>>90820

>day cares

Have there been a lot of violent incidents in day cares? I don't really see the point of this expansion otherwise, because as much as I want to believe everyone is /k/-level safety minded, this just opens it up for idiots to leave their guns out for curious kids to shoot themselves.

College campuses to me have also been a grey zone of usefulness. Professors and staff with weapons? Sure. Students who may or may not be drunk at a party? Students who 1/2 of which are still teenagers with not quite that much common sense? To me these are just recipes for disaster compared to the number of lives lost in rare active shooter events. I guess I would need to see more data to see if the cost/benefit is good; if the reduction in petty crime and active shooters is worth the increase in stupidity with a gun.

>>90822
In Ohio. You can't carry concealed until you've done 8 hours of instruction and 8 hours of range time minimum

Gun Control defense force in 3..... 2.....1.......

>>87222
>South Korean protests aren’t always peaceful.

It’s worth noting how sanitized and orderly the South Korean million-man march was. Imagine a 360-degree horizon completely filled with protesters, all holding up neat signs that read “Park Geun-hye, Step down” and shouting out, in unison, “Impeach Park Geun-hye” only when ordered to do so by the organizers—a private association of labor unions, student, and civic groups. There were volunteers passing out free candles, which serve as the symbol of defiance, as well as the plastic mats for those who preferred to sit so that they would not dirty their clothes. There were many mothers that brought young children, and at street corners, the citizens took on themselves to direct traffic to prevent accidents. From the stage were the musicians of democratically selected genres ranging from hip-hop to folk, and people sang along in harmony, and at some point, the scene resembled a karaoke open mic. At midnight, the protest ended, but many stayed behind to clean up and recycle garbage. Nearby, tens of thousands of riot police were stationed for emergency, but they were merely young men in their early 20s—South Korea has a 21-month-long mandatory military service—looking meek and somewhat bored.

>>87223

South Korean protests aren’t always so peaceful. In 1960, a student was killed by the police during an anti-government protest, which then caused 100,000 students to march to the Blue House to eventually bring down autocratic Lee Syng-man (also known as Syngman Rhee), the American-sponsored first president, from serving a fourth term.* In the 1980s, it was violent protests in the southern city of Gwangju as well as the later ones including the “June Struggle,” during which hundreds of students were killed, which eventually ended the dictatorship of President Park’s father. As recently as last year, an activist farmer died due to a fatal injury from a police water cannon at a protest demanding Park keep her campaign pledge to fix rice prices.


These days, public protests have become cathartic rituals. Every time the national team plays a World Cup match, millions wearing the “Red Devil” T-shirts take to the street, not exactly inspired by a soccer frenzy but rather nationalism and collectivism. These events can quickly turn political, instigated by the organizations that exploit the occasion to push their agenda.
In the early 2000s, anti-American sentiments were egged on and intensified following an incident in which American soldiers ran over two Korean schoolgirls and were acquitted. Koreans were heartbroken and came out in droves, singing Yoon Min-suk’s anthem “Fucking U.S.A.” (Most Americans probably don’t realize that Psy, the lovable showman behind the viral global hit “Gangnam Style,” was once better known for rapping a song from this era titled, “Dear America,” with lyrics including “Kill fucking Yankees ... kill them all slowly and painfully.”)

>>87224

The protests directly influenced the 2003 presidential election. Backed by the left, Roh Moo-hyun, an inexperienced former labor lawyer, won against all expectations. In 2009, millions congregated across the country after Roh committed suicide during a bribery inquiry. Swayed by the collective sadness though, people forgot about the actual scandal and its implication, and instead the protest became a massive Confucian rite where they bowed in tears to their dead former president’s photo in makeshift shrines. In 2011, I was living undercover in Pyongyang when Kim Jong-il, the Great Leader, died—and I could not help but notice how similarly North Koreans reacted to his death as they wept in groups, bowing to his photo at a shrine, as though they had just lost their parent.


Such a group sentiment reflects a 5000-year-old Korean heritage of feudalism mixed with Confucianism in which citizens show enormous deference to their leaders. Moreover, this small nation about half the size of California has always been dominated by foreign powers, historically China and Japan and in the modern era, the United States in South Korea and Russia in the North. Having always lived under threat of the big brother, Koreans are good at mobilizing in groups, but individual dissents are rare. Having been underdogs most of their history, they are also highly emotional in their reactions, which can be a strength as well as a weakness.

End of the world.

Soon it will be humans like that.

>>93411
Soooo, is it confirmed to not have been about enviromental damage?

>>93254

And some electors did break with how their state voted, albeit in unexpected ways. In Washington, a state Clinton won by 16 points, the former secretary of state received just eight of the state's 12 electoral votes. Colin Powell received three votes and Native American tribal leader Faith Spotted Eagle received one as part of an effort to promote a candidate other than Trump.

An elector in both Maine and Minnesota attempted to cast a ballot for Bernie Sanders, who unsuccessfully challenged Clinton in the Democratic primary. However state laws requiring electors to follow the statewide vote invalidated both efforts.

Only one Republican elector, Christopher Suprun of Texas, publically pledged not to vote for Trump despite his state heavily favoring the president-elect last month. One other Texas elector also abandoned Trump in the final vote.

An Associated Press survey of the electoral college's 538 members found there was little interest from members in breaking from voting how their states did. Thirty-seven electors would have needed to defect from Trump to endanger him from winning.

The Electoral College met in all fifty states and Washington, D.C. on Monday. Congress will certify the results on Jan. 6 and the president will be inaugurated Jan. 20.

FIN

>>93254
I don't get why liberals are surprised. Where they supposed to vote the other way?

>>93287
Liberal here. Nobody was surprised. There was clickbait outrage over the electors not "representing the will of the people" on both sides. Each one that disobeyed also has to pay a $1100 fine I think.

Really funny, and assuming they're under 18 the court record will be sealed. Sucks in the short term, but shouldn't affect them much otherwise.

This is yet another reason not to become a teacher. Humans in general are pieces of shit, kids even moreso.

>>90791
Was the teacher hot?

>>90798
She was 58. Decide for yourself.

>>92707
Does this break South Korea? Isn't she very unpopular?

>>92721
She is literally a puppet of a shadow government. People that tried to break the news earlier were assassinated before they could. There's been even more shit going down in the streets, I would not be surprised if this leads to civil war or a military coup d'etat.

>>92739
>South Korea having mass protests and threats of a coup in order to impeach an incompetent, corrupt female president.
>America having mass protests and threats of a coup in order to elect an incompetent, corrupt female president.
What a funny time to be alive.

>>93635
According to the company, passengers who booked the cancelled flights will be offered alternative ones or get refunds.

The Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport said it will send inspectors to Incheon and Gimpo airports to check the company's safety measures, including rest time and pilot's qualifications

Pilots belonging to the union are demanding a 29 percent increase in wages, while the company argued the pilots could not demand more than the 1.9 percent agreement between the company and the general employee union.

"The pilots' demands are nonsense, as Hanjin Group has sustained losses for years," an official of Korean Air complained. "They want an increase which amounts to almost the same as the annual wage of a general employee."

>>93637
Korean Air pilots earn an average of 150 million won in wages.

Rapid growth of Chinese airlines is one of the biggest reasons pilots are demanding higher salaries. As more Chinese airlines need expert pilots, most of them offer about 250 to 350 million won in annual salaries to Korean pilots.

Pilots, however, claim that their strike is due to their disappointment with the company, rather than the wage issue.

"Many pilots are disappointed with the owner family's misconduct," a Korean Air pilot said. "Although Chinese firms offer higher salaries, it is still difficult for most pilots to decide to move to other countries, as they have lived in Korea more than 30 years."

However, critics claimed that most pilots hesitate to leave Korea because Chinese airlines' welfare incentives are poorer than Korean airlines and most pilots who work for Chinese airlines are 3-year contract workers.

Korean Air said the company is still in negotiation with the union and are trying to come to an agreement.

According to Daishin Securities, the strike will cut the company's sales by 4 percent and 10 billion won of operating profits.

related
>Korean Air cancels over 130 flights due to pilot walkout
http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/2016/12/21/14/0200000000AEN20161221007851320F.html

>Korean Air Expected to See Loss of 10 Billion Won Due to Pilot Strike
http://www.businesskorea.co.kr/english/news/management/16821-pilot-strike-korean-air-expected-see-loss-10-billion-won-due-pilot-strike

>>93639
>Korean Air pilots earn an average of 150 million won

That's about $125k for those too lazy to google.

>the owner family's misconduct

See other thread. KAL is a family-run business, and the daughter, who is also VP and CEO of two of the subsidiaries, got mad at a flight attendant and made him get on his knees and beg for his job while the plane taxi'd back to the runway. She's done a bunch of other sociopathic stuff.

All that said, imho if the argument is employee dignity but only the pilots, the highest-paid employees, get higher wages out of this then that's pretty crazy-classist shit.

Though what it looks more like is the pilots, as irreplaceables, are striking basically on behalf of the entire employee base and will be negotiating something along those lines - the crazy wage increase is just the legal on-paper demand before they sit down to talk administrative change (I hope this is the case, at least).

>>93616
In a report released on Tuesday, however, Moody’s Investors Service warned that the leadership vacuum will have a negative impact on South Korea’s sovereign credit rating, saying the country will not be capable of implementing new economic policies until its political crisis becomes stabilized.

The global credit appraiser also warned of a further downward revision of South Korean economic growth for next year. The rating agency previously predicted the South Korean economy will grow two-point-seven percent this year, two-point-five percent next year and two percent in 2018.

Moody’s, however, ended the report on a positive note, saying South Korea will be able to overcome its crisis with its institutional and fiscal fundamentals. Moody’s is maintaining South Korea’s rating at Aa2, the third highest rating in its sovereign rating system.

Another global ratings agency Standard and Poor's said Monday that the impeachment of President Park won't impact South Korea's credit rating. S&P's current rating for South Korea is AA.

The US key interest hike and its effects on the Korean economy
>Too much worrying could cloud one’s judgment. The fact is, Korea’s current account is in the black, and the country’s finances are solid.
http://world.kbs.co.kr/english/program/program_economyplus_detail.htm?no=5841

>As bonds sell off, South Korea gets buffers ready
Morgan Stanley analysts say Korea's low real yields and high dollar debt are risks. They estimate corporate debt denominated in U.S. dollars is about 32 percent of GDP, higher than in other large emerging markets such as Turkey, Russia or Brazil.

"There is not one thing in our economy that is not serious," Bank of Korea Governor Lee Ju-yeol said on Friday. "I believe the focus should be placed on stabilising financial markets and exchange rates and when needed, aggressive responses should be taken."
http://www.reuters.com/article/korea-markets-fund-idUSL4N1EB2WI

>J.P. Morgan Struggles in South Korea
http://www.businesskorea.co.kr/english/news/money/16596-unfitting-its-fame-jp-morgan-struggles-south-korea

>Korean economy faces 'storm' of U.S. rate hike
http://english.donga.com/Home/3/all/26/804036/1

>>93575
>Breakup with scandalized Park Geun-hye?

Ban openly criticized scandalized President Park Geun-hye in a recent high-profile meeting, arguing she could be blamed for throwing South Korea into its "biggest political turmoil since the Korean War."

This is in stark contrast to the long-circulating rumors that he is backed by Park and her loyalists as the ruling party's candidate for the presidency.

"I believe that during my seven-decades-long life as a South Korean citizen, we have not been experiencing this kind of political turmoil, except when the ... Korean War broke out," Ban said. He made the comment at a discussion organized by the Council on Foreign Relations in New York, Saturday.

"The people were very much frustrated and angry about the complete lack of good governance," he said. "And they believed that the trust on and for the leadership of the country was betrayed.

"That's why people became much more frustrated and angry. And I fully understand this situation."

>Saenuri breakup imminent
40 lawmakers may quit Saenuri this week
https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2016/12/116_220535.html
About 40 lawmakers are likely to quit the ruling Saenuri Party this week to form a new conservative bloc following a nasty power struggle with loyalists of President Park Geun-hye.

>South Korean ruling party on the verge of splitting as fallout from presidential scandal intensifies

A split would complicate any presidential bid by outgoing UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, who had been widely expected to compete as a centre-right candidate
http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/east-asia/article/2056271/south-korean-ruling-party-verge-splitting-fallout-presidential

>S.Korea seeks arrest of daughter of Park's friend at centre of scandal
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/korea-seeks-arrest-daughter-parks-031522745.html

>Saenuri dissenters to leave ruling party
http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2016/12/21/0301000000AEN20161221000955315.html

>South Korea seeks to arrest daughter of woman at center of scandal that impeached President Park
http://indianexpress.com/article/world/south-korea-seeks-to-arrest-daughter-of-woman-at-center-of-scandal-that-impeached-president-park-4438172/

>Former Chief, Floor Leader Decide to Leave Ruling Party
http://world.kbs.co.kr/english/news/news_Po_detail.htm?No=124071

Former Chairman Kim Moo-sung and former Floor Leader Yoo Seong-min of the Saenuri Party confirmed that they will be defecting from the ruling camp. Their decision to break away from the Saenuri is expected to trigger a mass departure by other lawmakers of the party, hit hard by the political scandal involving the president.
Mina Cha has more.

Report: Former Saenuri Party Chairman Kim Moo-sung and its previous floor leader Yoo Seong-min agreed to finish administrative procedures for their defection by next week.

They are leading the party's lawmakers not aligned with President Park Geun-hye, who is now on the verge of impeachment.

In a phone interview with KBS, Yoo said as many lawmakers as possible should join the first wave of defection.

Other members of the non-mainstream faction, including Rep. Hwang Young-cheul, have also made it official to leave the Saenuri.

[Sound bite: Rep. Hwang Young-cheul, Saenuri Party (Korean)]
“We can’t say precisely how many lawmakers will leave the party, but I am sure it will be 20 or more. We will form a floor negotiation group and take steps to exercise influence at the parliament.”

The pro-Park faction has strongly censured the nonmainstream lawmakers.

>>93567
Pro-Park heavyweight Rep. Suh Chung-won said those who want to leave the party should go. He added the non-loyalists are behaving as if they had suddenly become fighters.

The pro-Park faction has also launched efforts to stabilize the party in response to potential defections, mentioning the possibility to appoint external figures such as former Prime Minister Kim Hwang-sik or former ruling party Chairman Lee Hoi-chang as the party’s interim leader.

With ties already strained as a result of the Choi Soon-sil scandal, the conflict within the ruling party is deepening after the pro-Park faction rejected the non-Park faction's proposal that Rep. Yoo Seong-min be appointed as the party's interim leader.

>>93429
However, her removal is by no means certain. Two-thirds of the nine judges must agree, and most of them were appointed by her Saenuri party. If the court fails to affirm her ouster, she will limp on as president until December, vilified by the public, afflicted by continuing demonstrations, and abandoned by her own party.

Whatever the Constitutional Court's decision, Park is political and legal road kill, facing prosecution the moment her presidential immunity expires. Already everyone is looking ahead to her successor. Acting President Hwang will have little authority — and none after the next election, whenever it is held.

Moon Jae-in leads the opposition party, lost narrowly to Park in 2012, and heads opinion surveys. He would seem to have the inside track to the presidency, but Seoul Mayor Park Won-soon has gained attention promoting left-wing causes and attacking Park. Another leftish activist on the rise is Seongnam Mayor Lee Jae-Myeong, who calls himself the ROK's Bernie Sanders. Park's collapse leaves the opposition well-positioned to take control.

However, United Nations Secretary General Bank Ki-moon is likely to seek South Korea's presidency after his term expires at the end of December, as either the ruling party or an independent candidate. Ahn Cheol-soo heads a smaller party. He was a left-leaning contender in 2012 but ended up backing Moon.

>>93429
>>93430
Washington officials are less concerned about domestic ROK sensibilities and more worried about policy toward both North Korea and America. Hwang likely will be on auto-pilot, with little impact. Ahn has focused on domestic issues, while Ban's views are not clear, though he is presumed to lean in a more rightward direction.

Moon formally backs the South Korean alliance with America, but he has called for "balanced diplomacy" with the U.S. and China; many opposition activists oppose deployment of the anti-missile THAAD system. Moon also complained that sanctions won't end North Korea's nuclear program. The other potential opposition candidates are thought to generally share this perspective.

In practice, even when strongly critical of the U.S. South Korean leaders tend to reaffirm the trans-pacific military tie. After all, most South Koreans prefer to save money by having Americans pay for their defense.

If development of future policy must necessarily remain in abeyance, maintenance of the peace will remain first priority. The fact that the U.S., in the midst of its own power transition, must worry about the ROK's security is a reminder of the cost of antiquated, even "obsolete," to use the president-elect's term, alliances. Washington remains entangled and at risk.

Park's future matters only to her, but her successor matters to her countrymen — and, ultimately, to Americans. Incoming President Donald Trump should reconsider an alliance which makes the U.S. hostage to a shaman's ministrations in Seoul.

>Does South Korea Protest Too Much?
http://www.wsj.com/articles/does-south-korea-protest-too-much-1482169052

>>93429
>The Korea Times:Korea's Road to revolution
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2016/12/633_220588.html