Is it fine to read pic related before the greeks?
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If you read it in Portuguese
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>>7666025
Why not the original Spanish?
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Of course it is
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I'm trying to find an accurate order (not necessarily chronological) to read the Arthurian Legend (I'm complete new to this), what would you recommend?
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>>7665732
Just save yourself some time and listen to the original Broadway cast recording of Spamalot.
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>>7665743
Read something else and save this for bathroom/beach reading
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Sir Gawain and the Green Knight -> Le Morte D'Arthur -> De Troye's Arthurian Romances.
I also liked the Once and Future King, a smart YA retelling of Le Morte, the 15th or 16th century British novel that makes up the bulk of Arthurian legend around today. It was started in 1939 and finished in the 50s. It's quite good, but the last book went out the window a bit.
Is it any good?
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>>7665675
It's Gass, so of course it is good. I wouldn't read it before Omensetter's Luck, though.
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>>7665675
Not his best, but I didn't consider it a waste of time.
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Is The Tunnel a good place to start with Gass?
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Alright /lit/
Which book(s) hasthe cutest / best female characterin it?
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post grushenka
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Sinuhe The Egyptian
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I always liked Dors
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Proper usage of "one" as a pronoun.
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I have a quick question about writing, /lit/.
So I was recently corrected by an instructor on the use of the pronouns "one" with "they". It was stated "one" cannot be used with anything but "one" as it would be considered a pronoun disagreement.
Example:
"One can do as they wish."
As opposed to:
"One can do as one wishes."
I understand "one" shouldn't be used with pronouns such as "he, him, her, she", but thought it was acceptable to use it with "they" and "their" because they were also neutral.
Am I wrong on this? Is using "one" with "they, their" still acceptable in less formal writing?
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"One may do as they wish" can refer to 'one' doing something some other people want him to do
"One can do as one wishes" means that 'one' is doing what that same 'one' wants, so it's better to use that and more correct
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>>7664631
>One can do as they wish
Technically, if you're referring to one person throughout the sentence, this is improper grammar because using "they" to refer to one person isn't correct, you actually have to say "his or her"
It's a fucking stupid rule that needs to be changed, the English language doesn't have a gender neutral pronoun even though there are many situations that call for it.
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>>7664631
No, of course you can't. "One " refers to a single individual and "they " refers to multiple people. This is a very simple concept.
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So I just read Benjy's section with no background info all in one sitting. I got through As I Lay Dying with no problem but I have no idea what the fuck is going on. All I grasped so far is
>Caddy and Quentin are rebellious, but Caddy has a soft spot for Benjy. Maybe she molested him? Something weird's going on
>All the white adults are dying
>Benjy has an attraction to fire and Quentin seems to be associated with it
>Nobody likes dealing with Benjy's downie self except Caddy and the mother, but the mother is a whiny entitled bitch
>TP, Luster, Dilsey, and Roskus are black servants that may or may not be related. I feel like Damuddy probably is too but can't really tell
>Caddy and Benjy are both strangely posessive if each other. She grew up and is gone in the present scene, so Benjy tard strengths and grabs a girl
Was Uncle Maury the one that died, and that's why they changed the narrator's name to Benjy?
Am I supposed to have pieced together whatever's happening with the parents when the kids are trying to eavesdrop or will I understand that later?
How old, relatively, are all these siblings? Jason seems older in one scene then he randomly starts crying in scenes where Benjy is like ten.
Will things start to make sense in the next narrator's section or will the scenes continue to be 90% "I'm gonna whip you" followed by crying?
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Quentin rapes his sister, Caddy.
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>>7664640
Am I stupid or is Quentin alternately described as male and female? Someone calls him/her "young lady," then I'm looking at the part where Quentin tried to hit jason with the glass and there are clearly female pronouns used for Quentin.
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>my mother just spoiled me Hamlet
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the meaning always comes from re-reading
spoiler means nothing in shakespeare
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>>7664558
fuck off, stupid frog-faggot
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Macbeth is killed by Macduff.
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>He smoked a cigarette, standing in the dark and listening to her undress. She made sea sounds; something flapped like a sail; there was the creak of ropes; then he heard the wave-against-a-wharf smack of rubber on flesh. Her call for him to hurry was a sea-moan, and when he lay beside her, she heaved, tidal, moondriven.
Isn't it great? Looking for underrated stuff, not Nabokov and the usual gang. Can anyone guess what this is, btw?
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>Her cunt became the moon.
Seriously?
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>>7664313
Is it from Paper Towns by John Greene?
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>>7664390
One of my favorite sentences from The Tunnel:
"She put her hand on my head/neck/back--tip, tip, tap--sanding my skin with glass.
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>desperately married a sleazy whore to lose virginity in his thirties
>impotence issues
>get cucked by said whore with Bertrand Russell
JUST
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>>7664066
At least you dont have William Burroughs girl problems son
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>>7664066
>implying he didn't marry Viv for a reason to stay in England (therefore saving his future poetry career)
>lost virginity at 28, not in thirties.
You you so salty OP?
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>>7664099
How did staying in England 'save' his poetry career?
Apologize in advance if I break the dubs chain.
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What's his best book?
What's his worst book?And which one did you enjoy the most?
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Kraken doesn't have his best writing but it's the only one with an even halfway decent ending. Perdido street station read like he wrote it when he was 14. Never went near Bas Lag after that.
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>>7664016
The Scar is fucking fantastic and in my opinion superior to PDSS. During Perdido he was trying too hard, I think. The Scar features the same level of crazy originality and inventiveness without being as upfront about it. It's a bit more fantasy, a bit more common adventure, but it has the best fucking city in all of genre fiction in it. And the best sword after Dragnipur.
Highly recommended.
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>>7664038
The city in Perdido reminded me of a kid's drawing of a pirate island: it has to have ALL THE THINGS, all neatly spaced out. Here's the buried treasure, here's the little cove, here's the sea monster etc etc only with him it was Here's the bug people district, and here's the frog people district, and here's the district that's inside a huge skeleton, and the politicians commune with demons from hell because we satire now, but there are also pan-dimensional spider monsters that made the universe or something but they can't even kill a hypnotic supermoth in a straight fight.
It's like dota, the book.
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>studies philosophy
>hasn't read Menexenus
It's one of Plato's most important dialogues and a key text in the western philosophic canon, what's your excuse?
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I'm on the presocratics yet.
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>>7663381
dont care about plato
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>>7663381
This still isn't a meme, dipshit.
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What does /lit/ think of Winterson?
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Well, that answers my question then.
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>>7662826
I've gotten the impression that she's based, but none of the back blurbs have made me interested in reading any particular book of hers.
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>>7662826
Written on the Body is a pretty great book. Its implications are kind of SJWish, but the writing's pretty touching and funny, besides being able to keep up such a hard gimmick for the whole thing (gimmick is that the narrator doesn't have a definite gender, in case you don't know).
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General Dos Passos thread--
I've read Manhattan Transfer and am reading his letter and travel writings published by Library of America. Would like to discuss
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>>7662675
INTERVIEWER
Do you enjoy writing?
DOS PASSOS
That depends. Sometimes I do, and sometimes I don't.
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>>7662675
anyone?
I think his character portraits are some of the best I have ever read, in Manhattan Transfer. Has anyone here read his USA Trilogy?
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>>7664549
>Has anyone here read his USA Trilogy?
Yeah, quite original structure (with the News Reels and Camera Eyes), interposed with the more traditional narrative. Thematically a little weak, yet not unintersting. He makes it work despite that and that attests to his quality as a writer, if not much of a thinker. Would read more from him despite not really considering him good. Slightly enjoyable, though part of that may, admittedly, be merely because he doesn't sound like your other "American Greats" like that Steinbeck faggot, i.e. his worldview doesn't sound like garbage-man trite small talk. His subtle humour is a nice addition also.
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Prove aesthetic relativism wrong.
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>>7659822
>>>/hw/
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>>7659822
Prove it right. See? I can do I too.
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One cannot prove vague phrases like 'aesthetic relativism' to be 'wrong' since it is not a proposition that can be evaluated as such.
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Do you do this to your books, or do you use an actual bookmark?
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Physical is faggot shit
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I tend to get bookmarks constantly from relatives who don't know what to buy for presents, so I don't have to crease pages.
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Bookmark.
I've got plenty of them since Book Depository include one in every shipment