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What's the best Beowulf translation? Has anyone read Tolkien's?
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It's in prose, so...
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Liuzza
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>>7664284
Tolkien is pretty good at translation from what I read. Never read his Beowulf, but it can't be much worse than Saemus "Kindergarten reading level" Heaney's.

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What are some of the lesser known writings of the Greek mythological canon that you enjoy? The Seven Against Thebes/Epigoni together once you have the full tapestry of the story conceptualized with detail in your mind creates one of the most poignant stories in the full saga of myths. Tydeus and Diomedes are nearly as good of a distant father and son story as Odysseus and Telemachus
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>>7662470
Is Alcestes often read in classics programs?
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>>7663937
nope not much at all. i'm studying classics at oxford and we probably have the largest classics department in the world. out of the 100 or so options we can do for our final exams, not one of them includes Alcestis. there's lots of euripides in there but that play just doesn't ever seem to be studied in detail.
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This thread again? Why such a hard on for Aeschylus? Why make several identical threads about this one particular play? Be honest, is this the only thing you've ever read?

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Alright /lit/,

What's the opinion on pic related? Are they worth it? I read actual books but everyone around me swears by e-reader pleb-tier bullshit.

And you?
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Daily reminder to turn on airplane mode if you have any interest on jailbreaking your kindle as the update went live yesterday.

Supposedly it should be coming by the Saturday.
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I feel that for heavier/harder books, physical is superior.
But then again, maybe I'm just retarded
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I can't finish books on e-readers desu. There's something aggravating about it, even if the screen looks ALMOST like paper. It's just not the same.

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Is it queer lit?

Are you dog earing the pages?
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>>7667266
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>>7667379
Are you dog earing the pages tho

Your reading of this text becomes part of the text
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>>7667379
the hipster handbook

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Who all do I absolutely have to read before Descartes? I've read The Art and Thought of Heraclitus, Plato, Aristotle, and Marcus Aurelius. I'm not gonna read all 3,000 pages of Summa Theologica. Anything else I need? Sextus Empiricus? Augustine? The reason I'm asking is because the sticky has an assload of shit before modern philosophy and that's what I'm in this for. How did you guys do it? Thanks in advance
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>>7666127
>The reason I'm asking is because the sticky has an assload of shit before modern philosophy and that's what I'm in this for

If you're interested in Modern philosophy you can literally just start with Descartes for fucks sake.
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>>7666132
Ight thanks lol
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>>7666127
>Plato, Aristotle

Which texts from these authors have you read?

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>been at it for an hour or two
>on a roll with a few paragraphs
>feeling good, man
>tfw you write THAT sentence that gives you a quick tingling feeling all over

post your favorite writing feels, fellas
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I can tell just from the way you wrote that short post that you are an irredeemably terrible writer.
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>>7668122
this
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>>7668043
Have fun deleting that tingling sentence in revision

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What does /lit/ think about pic related? I was recently at a poetry slam where the participants did Bukowski-themed poems and it was really great. I would love to get into his work.
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>>7667574
pickup one of his books and read it faggot
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If you would look around you'd find there's a Bukowski thread already going you fucking cunt
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There are a like 5 bukowski threads right now
Use the fucking catalog

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Rate my shelf /lit/
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>>7667082
Honestly probably one of the most prolific collections of contemporary literature I've seen in years. I can almost smell the turning of aged pages and the sound of the noose I wish you were tying to hang yourself.
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Terrible but that's why you posted it.
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>>7667082
>shelf
>not bookcase

m8

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Aquinas BTFO of Hume and all modern and postmodern philosophy:

>On the contrary, The intelligible species is to the intellect what the sensible image is to the sense. But the sensible image is not what is perceived, but rather that by which sense perceives. Therefore the intelligible species is not what is actually understood, but that by which the intellect understands.

>I answer that, Some have asserted that our intellectual faculties know only the impression made on them; as, for example, that sense is cognizant only of the impression made on its own organ. According to this theory, the intellect understands only its own impression, namely, the intelligible species which it has received, so that this species is what is understood.

>This is, however, manifestly false for two reasons.

>First, because the things we understand are the objects of science; therefore if what we understand is merely the intelligible species in the soul, it would follow that every science would not be concerned with objects outside the soul, but only with the intelligible species within the soul; thus, according to the teaching of the Platonists all science is about ideas, which they held to be actually understood [84, 1].

>Secondly, it is untrue, because it would lead to the opinion of the ancients who maintained that "whatever seems, is true" [Aristotle, Metaph. iii. 5], and that consequently contradictories are true simultaneously. For if the faculty knows its own impression only, it can judge of that only. Now a thing seems according to the impression made on the cognitive faculty. Consequently the cognitive faculty will always judge of its own impression as such; and so every judgment will be true: for instance, if taste perceived only its own impression, when anyone with a healthy taste perceives that honey is sweet, he would judge truly; and if anyone with a corrupt taste perceives that honey is bitter, this would be equally true; for each would judge according to the impression on his taste. Thus every opinion would be equally true; in fact, every sort of apprehension.
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This is the main part:

>The intelligible species is to the intellect what the sensible image is to the sense. But the sensible image is not what is perceived, but rather that by which sense perceives. Therefore the intelligible species is not what is actually understood, but that by which the intellect understands.

Have we not realised that all of modern philosophy has committed this basic error of saying that what we sense is our own sensation, what we perceive is our own perception, what we understand is our own ideas? This ultimately leads to solipsism. If all I understand or perceive is my own mind, then ultimately my mind is cut off from everything outside of it.
This is the point though. We DON'T sense our own sensation, our sensation is that by which we perceive actual THINGS, realities, objects in the real world. I don't hear my own hearing, I don't see my own sight; my hearing is that by which I hear SOUNDS in the real world; and my sight is that by which I see VISIBLE LIGHT in the real world.

This simple realisation makes all of modern and postmodern philosophy obsolete.
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http://www.newadvent.org/summa/1085.htm#article2
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>>7666240
sound, light, temperature, as we perceive them, don't actually exist. They are created by our brain so we can understand the world, but we don't actually percieved the world for what it really is.

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RIP
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Thought you were trolling...Well, rip in peace canon man.
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you faggot

don't ruse me like this. not about saint harold.
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>google it
>it's true

Mods please sticky

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Anyone read the critique of pure reason? I know it's supposed to be difficult, but I definitely want to tackle this soon. What should I read beforehand? And Which translation should I get? I've read elsewhere that the Guyer and Wood translation is the best, but that one is $50 on amazon.
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>>7662676
Descartes and Hume first
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>>7662676

I took a class that just went over this. It's pretty tough, but if you outline the argument as you go you'll be fine.
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>>7662676
The CPR was the final boss of my undergrad. I'm still not sure I was ready. And Guyer Wood is necessary. Don't skimp on it and buy a second rate translation.
>>7662682
Gota add Leibniz and Wolff to that list.

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ITT: The song you listen to when you're writing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em30XL9c5NQ
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_lIUraNtlc
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I usually listen to noise, harsh noise or a 1/32 looping sample of anything just to isolate from other sounds and focus on writing. Yeah, it's super autist.
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>>7661322
>Yeah, it's super autist.

sure but it sound hella literary and primarily concerned with writing rather than listening to music

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Anyone have any essays or major text recommendations on Max Weber? I kinda understand his three points of legitimacy. But I was wondering if anyone here has a more comprehensive understanding of his ideas. Other than The Protestant Ethic, I was wondering if you have any other texts worth looking at.
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>>7667857
Politics as Vocation is pretty dank, even if it's self-help tier with Nietzsche vibes. It has that meme about the night of icy darkness.

Also fuck Poland.
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>>7667951
Why?
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>>7667951
Both Vocational Lectures are pretty great.

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What did he mean by this?
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Going crazy is part of life etc
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>>7667650
No its not...
Not normally at least
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Fuck off with this Bukowski posting you little shit.
>>7667650
There's no way someone this stupid should be posting

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Why has this book not gained greater currency in the literary world?
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It's received way more attention than it should have. It's barely 25k words long and still becomes boring after the second chapter. It's written by a child for children, though shelving it under "literary fiction" and adopting the ironically-ironic deadpan stance of "define 'good writing'" makes idiots with low-attention spans flock to join the cult of Alt-Lit / Tao Lin thinking his writing is some sort of rebellion against hard work and genuine talent. Kill yourself.
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>>7667463
Orwell was largely dismissed while he was alive too.
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1. Because it's shit.

2. Taipei overshadowed everything else he wrote after it was released.

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