Any books similar to the vibe of this movie?
Also post a movie/album and get a book recommendation.
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Im here for recs.
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such a fantastic film I love it with all my heart and soul
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He's going to do 26 volumes for this "multi volume novel". Up till now the volumes have been at ~800-900 pages. How can he justify this? It's all going to be filler.
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he's a hack, he can justify everything
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>>7661229
I guess. I feel like I want to read them just because of the sheer size of it. But then again life's too short to read bad books.
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most of the pages are probably one word
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>I don't read translations
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Don't need to read translations when I know seven languages.
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>>7660422
you can't translate poetry, nigger
Do you think that in the future, crimes against information will be punishable? Writing a book that is sub-par but contagious(and very popular), killing a franchise, forcing a meme so it dies. Things like that.
I just feel that it's possible to write a novel crafted in such way that youth are instinctively drawn towards it. For example, using Johngreenian "spiked prose" to lure teenagers, except pushed to the absolute limit, so it's irresistable.
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>>7660380
What the fuck is spiked prose
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>>7660390
When you manufacture prose so it's instinctually gripping to some demographic. The certain flow and language that you enjoy not on conscious, but unconscious level. Pop music managed to do it, so why it can't be done within literature world?
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It will just transform into a new medium or genre since people still enjoy classical music
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If you wrote a novel where characters talk like this would it inevitably be doomed to fail or can such literary inflection be explained by the need for realism?
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>>7659954
talking and writing on facebook are not the same
clarify what you mean
would they speak this way out loud?
(do people now speak this way out loud?)
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>>7659978
Talking and writing dialogue are not the same
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>>7659978
>do people now speak this way out loud?
the internet has had a great impact on spoken language. i'm not talking about the people who autistically reference memes irl either, they are part of a wider transformation that it's hard to measure right now. but yeah writers gotta deal with it somehow, though it's hard to pull off.
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I'm reading through Lord of the Flies right now and thoroughly enjoying it. The degeneration storyline is wonderfully done. I have a question, though:
Is Simon, the boy who gets killed by the mob after revealing the reality of the parachute-man, a.k.a. the beast, representative of Jesus Christ?
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Do some spoiler tags. God damn!
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His name is Simon, ain't that hard to figure out a Biblical reference.
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yes of course
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http://electricliterature.com/classic-novels-by-james-joyce-and-virginia-woolf-contain-mathematical-mulitfractal-structures/
"The paper based on the study, recently published in Information Sciences, showed that certain works were more complex than others, specifically the books written in stream-of-consciousness. These could be compared to multi-fractals, according the scientists, who explained that Finnegans Wake by James Joyce had the most complex structure of all. Professor Professor Stanisław Drożdż said: “The results of our analysis of [Finnegans Wake] are virtually indistinguishable from ideal, purely mathematical multifractals.”"
What does this mean for the future of lit, /lit/? Does it mean anything? Does this prove that objectivity in literature exists?
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>>7660429
No, it means that they were books written by high modernists
I doubt anything like this will hold on books from any other era
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It means nothing
Anyone with some ability for thought knows this
And you can fit noise into expressions and it means nothing
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>>7660429
That's like saying that because you can measure lines in a painting, there is objectivity in fine art
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Hi!!
someone I can spend the next books in pdf:
(If it may be the oldest edition possible)
book Eibon
Necronomicon
The Book of Thoth
The Vermys mistery
Thanks
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Those aren't real books.
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I just asked if you can not spend the link if they are real or not that I do not care
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>>7659828
I'm not sure how you think anyone can link to them if they don't exist.
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Just finished reading Sorrow of Young Werther. How does /lit/ feel about it, especially in comparison to Faust?
Personally, while I will say I enjoyed it, I don't think I connected with the work as much as I hoped I would. However, there were definitely some very moving and beautiful passages and I think Goethe touched on a number of contemporary philosophical concepts that I didn't expect.
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it's a middling work with some moments of beauty.
faust is his magnum opus, werther doesn't really compare at all.
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>>7659245
>werther doesn't really compare at all
Really? I know it's probably his most well known work so I assumed it was the most respected next to Faust.
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>>7659264
it's well known in part because of the influence on contemporaries (copycat suicides, etc)
in terms of "respected" works, the top ones are Faust, Wilhelm Meister, and various verse/drama works, such as erlkonig and egmont from the early sturm and drang period and later stuff like west-eastern divan when he got more into other genres/styles
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ITT: post some of the bullshit you have to read this semesterseminar about 'Music, Identity and Difference'
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>>7656371
>it is frightening when x
>that's a fact
Lol'd
I haven't had to read anything stupid this semester, I picked my classes based on professor. I guess my contemporary ethics class has resulted in reading some stupid shit (Nozick's argument for philosophical anarchy, LaFollette's argument for licensing parents) but my professor thankfully doesn't advocate anything.
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>>7656371
Why don't you just pick good classes, you moron?
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I can do whatever I want and you have to support me.
Don't accept me. Don't acknowledge me. SUPPORT me. CHEER for me. Tell me I'm special.
I am special.
That's why I get to define the reality you experience. Buckle up and enjoy the ride.
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Is House Of Leaves the worst thing to happen to literature?
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>>7660549
is that real
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No, the burning of the library of Alexandria was.
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>>7660583
In comparison to that, I would argue that House Of Leaves is still worse.
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Just started reading this. The narrator/commentator is supposed to be an asshole right? Or if not an asshole, he's seriously delusional. Every line in the poem is strung back to him and his home country and stories he told the poet
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just finish it
i would flame you for posting a shitty thread but at least it's not a dfw/pynchon thread so whatever.
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i feel like this thread is bait, if not, yea gee you're onto something anon
tips for next time: don't shitpost, finish the book first, even if you're not trying to shitpost you are
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the Zembla narrative is so horrible and hamfisted I do not understand why people like this book
I just bought an autographed copy of The Tunnel. What can I expect?
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>>7658097
An autograph.
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>>7658097
The Tunnel
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Has my idea potential?:
A book where an important government official in a dystopian future finds out that is daughter is dying of a supposedly "incurable" disease. He knows that the government has a cure, but he's not high ranking or well-liked enough to get it.
The situation ends with him joining forces with several fugitives wanted by the government and they set out to find the cure and discredit the government.
There's a general malaise in society because the people are doped up and just accept everything they hear from the government as truth. The disease that afflicts the man's daughter is one that's essentially gone unchecked for decades since it's effectively stopped society from becoming overpopulated, which is why the cure isn't widespread.
Anyhow, the group is convinced that getting the truth out will wake the people from their malaise and after an arduous struggle they finally manage to get some documents out there which raises society's suspicion for its government.
With the people's suspicions awakened (and despite two of the four members of the group dying), the remaining two people, the man and his possible love interest set out to find the cure. After a considerable amount of digging they the secret lab where the cure is supposedly kept. The pair covertly enter the lab, find the cure, and find the unpleasant truth. The government was responsible for concocting the disease in the first place (the proof is in the form of lab videos, tests, etc). It is then that they are discovered. The man barely escapes and the woman with him is killed. The man resolves to cure his daughter and reveal the truth to the world. On his way to the hospital with the cure a homeless vagrant mugs and then shoots him. The man dies, the vial with the cure shatters, and the documents are thrown away (the vagrant rifled through the man's belongings).
I think most of what I'd write would have an ending where everything that happened was for nothing.
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>>7661043
>dystopian future
no, sorry
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>>7661043
did johny use her and why woyld he hurt her.....
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>>7661043
This sounds like 1984 with a ticking clock element desu.
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Just bought this on a recommendation from a friend. Am I in for something good?
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Great series, I highly recommend it. The first book is a bit tough getting into because of almost zero exposition. It all seems to be unrelated threads, but they come together in a big way at a garden party.
Second book is way better, we get to see more of the world and see some truly epi suffering on the chain of dogs, which plays out like the Trail Of Tears from our own US history. Ery touching and passionate the whole thing.
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>>7661010
Thank you friend.
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>>7660955
Book 1 isn't very good. People try to justify it as being 'in media res' or some shit, but it's just a cover for shitty storytelling. It's also way too fucking long.
Book 2 is pretty good. Unlike the first book, I can actually give a shit about a lot of what's happening, and the second half of the book is really entertaining. Fantastic climax. Unfortunately it's way too fucking long.
Book 3 is the most entertaining of the ones that I've read. Pretty good world building while at the same time giving us action. Climax is really goddamn fun even if it's a bit over the top. Unfortunately it's way too fucking long, and there are endless dream sequences from one character who just whines the whole fucking time. Completely ruins the pacing of the book whenever she shows up. Did I mention it was too fucking long?
Book 4 is an act of literary blue-balls. It's all building up to a great battle, but after a million pages of dumbasses walking around in a fucking desert, it all ends in like 5 pages. Worldbuilding has slowed at this point, and we follow characters that are simply not as interesting as those in other parts of the world. It's also way too fucking long, especially considering how quickly all the plot points are cast aside for later books. Literary blue balls.
Was so angry I've yet to pick up the next book.