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>in the end, all literature decompiles into memes and psuedomemes
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>>7659615
You should read Roland Barthes. He goes in the same direction when it comes to modern literature. The trick is that you as the reader have to decide what to do with all those memes.
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>>7659615
I can't wait f.am
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Mark Hamill writes literature?

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IJ is the worst meme book I have read so far. 1/3 in but it's highly unlikely I will finish it.

Joe Rogan podcast tier philosophy and cringe worthy jokes. There were nice moments, but it's not worth to continue on for them.
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>>7659530
>1/3 in but it's highly unlikely I will finish it.
>Justifying laziness.
Just admit it, you're intimidated by the size and hoped to kill two birds with one thread, you want to justify your giving up and also start an epic meme bait thread.
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>>7659533
Your time and energy are finite. Infinite jest has mediocre value if any, it doesn't justify the time and energy invested.
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>>7659540
Okay then, pick up another doorstopper and read it and delete this shitty thread.

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"I will explain; the enjoyment was just from the too intense consciousness of one’s own degradation; it was from feeling oneself that one had reached the last barrier, that it was horrible, but that it could not be otherwise; that there was no escape for you; that you never could become a different man; that even if time and faith were still left you to change into something different you would most likely not wish to change; or if you did wish to, even then you would do nothing; because perhaps in reality there was nothing for you to change into."

What did he mean by this?
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Why does he always have this look like he just got a load of cum shot up his ass
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>>7658906
Stop shitting up this board with your le epic John Green meme
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>"Rape's gift to us lies in its loud reminder that there's nothing casual about sex at all. This is a gift because human sexuality's power and meaning increase with our recognition of its seriousness."

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I have a teacher convinced the phrase "in the ether" is actually "in the ethos". Please confirm this is a malapropism and I am not crazy? Or am I just an idiot.
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>>7662658
Your teacher is retarded.
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>>7662658
Pretty sure that "in the ether" is from ether theory.
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Are you sure he's not just meaning a different phrase where he's correct? There's no fucking way he's that stupid.

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Who /Library/ here??

>tfw every library in the state is on a network so you can literally order any book you want
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>tfw can't go to my library because I'm afraid of poor people
I wish I could bring a gun or something
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>>7662592
>not being poor
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My library gets shittier all the time. They never have any books and if they do, they're always abridged. Any time I get tempted to ask a librarian to order the book I want, I take one look at them and then just walk out instead. One of my librarians looks like Ursula and they all have the same awful personality as her. Angriest bunch of cunts I've ever met, and they've all been working at this library for at least 30 years.

I only recently found out about that ebook loaning service so now I don't have to see those angry cunts as often, but last time I went to renew my library card, I got lectured because it took me too long to pull my license out of my wallet (it got stuck against a plastic card holder since I never pull it out).

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Anyone similar writers? /li
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>>7662493
don't read women writers, their inferior
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>>7662505
women like Megan Boye, Gabby Bess
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>>7662523
No.7662505
why inferior?

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Just finished "miss wyoming", disappointed as fuck. By some art fag with a degree in conceptual art, its boring af.
Compared to books dealing with same themes; Broom of the system, COL49, Point Omega, it is straight up YA tier: flash backs that actually explain the story, a climax and a happy end. I'm just disgusted, I couldn't enjoy it, all the way thinkin " this is pleb shit."

tl;dr; Has PoMo ruined me and my taste? Is Coupland shit or am I a jaded elitist?
started on Bolano's short stories: this I can enjoy.

pic related,its Susan Colegate
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bump I assume Coupland is pleb tier?
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What's PoMo? How was The Broom of the System? As far as I know, you're the only person who has ever read it.
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>>7662552
I'm not OPie but I'm about 100 pages into it now. It's bretty fun so far but DFW was clearly an undergrad having a wank when he wrote it.

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what are some of your favorite nonfiction books?

I looked in the sticky and nothing caught my fancy.

I'm interested in more contemporary nonfiction.
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Right now I spend a lot of time reading older non-fiction.

Yet I did start out reading fiction mainly.

Currently I'm reading Charles Mackay's Extraordinary Popular Delusions. If you had any interest in sociology or economics, it is a great read which summarizes many European-wide delusions concerning early cases of commercial crises and even an explanation of the obsession with the Philosopher's stone from the 800s until a millennia later.

Another book I'm reading that is technically non-fiction is Euclid's Elements which is basically the essentials of Geometry and mathematical thought.

I don't know man, what are you interested in? The non-fiction I read is economics, mathematics, and history.
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>>7662119
"The Stranger Beside Me" (1980), from (the "recently" passed) Ann Rule. Summary is explicit...
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>The tiger: a true story of vengeance and survival
>my left foot
>death be not proud

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Are there any books that deal with conspirary theories/theorists in a mature way? Attempting to understand them. Fiction would also be fine.
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>>7661842
Foucault's Pendulum
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>>7661842
The Crying of Lot 49.
Sorry for the meme, but really.
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>>7661845
I'm not learning italien

Publish the more retarded, simple and meant for laymen book you've ever read
pic related
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anything by donald trump, it gets even worse when robert kiyosaki joins him
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A girl I went on 4-5 dates with recommended it to me. I told her it was shit and that she was a fucking pleb and I never saw her again. Good riddance.
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books similar to this movie, only just getting into reading and have read all of camus and i few others with similar 'existentialist' themes but none with character like this film. oblomov looks like it might be somewhat similar?
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Catcher in the Rye is actually pretty similar.
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>>7660183
It's really not.

Some books that fit:

1. Tao Lin: Taipei
2. Zachary German: Eat When You Feel Sad
3. Michel Houellebecq: Whatever
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How to b**b the US government by MDE/Sam Hyde

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How is her work? Worth reading? I want to get into Southern Gothic.
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fo shizzle, dig on her short stories. start with a good man is hard to find and then make your way
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>>7657491
it's okay.

Harry Crews is better
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>I want to get into Southern Gothic

Absalom, Absalom! by William Faulkner.

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What does /lit/ think of Tarzan? I've read some pulp fiction before (Conan). Is his worth my time? How's the action?
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I liked Tarzan. The first book is definitely the best, and the series takes a noticeable drop in quality after the second, but by then you're hooked. It is not very action-heavy, but there are some cool fight scenes. Check it out, it's pretty short.
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I'd have a crack at ready the first of each of his series. Mars was my favourite, but Land That Time Forget is ace too.
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I read the first one and I liked it, my only experience with Tarzan was the Disney movie.
The book takes off the kid gloves and explains a lot of things like shaving, reading, speech, hunting, etc.

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Name a good literary book I've never heard of but that's recognized as great. It can be fiction or non-fiction, from any genre and any language. (Just please not some lame paperback or some college-student manifesto).
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>>7661827
Dreams of the Red Chamber
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>>7661827
fuck off, anime pedophile
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>>7662020
This is just a drawing, gramps.

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I'm a very inexperienced writer, really just a highschool student. But i had a scarily realistic and enlightening dream which i wrote down detail for detail, and even though i never visit 4chan, muchless /lit. I wanted to post it somewhere. I didnt try to fix most grammar issues, sorry about that.
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>>7661570
I was walking through my high school, prior events had occurred but nothing of note. As I
walked, everything felt off, strange. I couldn't tell you what exactly was off about it but it was a
dream, so everything's a bit shifted. However, it seemed that you could enter and sit in any
class as you please, and with no consequence. So i looked for a class to sit in.
I walk through the hallways, the second floor, I remember most things about the dream
quite well. I walk past the class and I recall myself when I see her in there. She is beautiful,
probably the most beautiful girl that I know, and easily the most beautiful in my school. But at
the time, I only saw her as my friend, my very pretty friend. Sure she had some things being
said about her behind her back, but I’m never one to follow idiotic rumours like those. So I
thought that if I’d sit in a class, i'd find one with a friend since, let's face it, i'm not there to learn
but to screw around and snag a passing grade (a very realistic dream, couldn't even tell i was
dreaming).
I walk in, the class was a little over half full, lights were off, and a movie was being
played. Now what was very much off was i saw her, and her twin sister whom in the dream, I felt
like I’ve heard of, but I never could recall ever meeting her.
“Can I just sit in here and nobody will care?”
“Yea” They both replied to me.
So, I took my seat between the two where there was an empty seat. We didn’t talk too
much because I didn't want to get kicked out, but no more than a minute in her twin sister had
decided to lean her head against my shoulder, with absolutely no prior provocation. It was warm
and there was something amazing, but guilty about the sudden attention i was receiving from
her. With time however, we had come to be more comfortable, i found her arms wrapped
around my waist sort of grabbing at my stomach, and I ran my hand up the outside of her leg. At
this point, i somehow found us lying down, on a sort of bench, rather than the chair i had
previously sat in. She was wearing gray leggings, white shoes, and a red or pink sweater, i
couldn't remember exactly, maybe it was white.
And again i recognized myself in her company, my stomach felt warm, my heart
fluttered. And she went in to kiss me, which i can say i am not unpracticed in. However, as could
as i could be it seemed that she was just showing me the ropes, she licked my ear, then my
neck, then bit my bottom lip and kissed with such a passion that it almost hurt a bit, but she
remained graceful with every move she made. She had a lot of experience, it made no
difference to me.
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>>7661575
I had her in my arms, and it was ecstatic, i felt her legs, her body, and everything felt so
real that there was not a single hint that it wasn't real. I could feel her warmth, and her tongue.
But whenever I tried to put a move on her, even subtly, she would stop me and almost show it to
me. She was very intimidating and i just went with what she did. Sometimes she would go in to
kiss me again, only to watch me go in and smile, just to tease me. She would just bite her teeth
together right before my mouth and smile.
Whatever she did I was content, she could stab me to death and I would be no different.
She was an angel, how she looked, smelled, felt. Exactly how I thought she, an angel would.
And with every tease, i still felt madly in love holding her in my arms. I have never seen a more
perfect person, and i could not think of one either if i tried.
But again, as i just held her, that same odd feeling arose once again. I noticed that, she
didn't feel like her sister, whom is exactly as beautiful as she is. She felt almost exactly like her,
like the same exact person and not a twin. Their hair was both exactly as long and stunning,
and they both had it put up. They also had on the same outfit, and where twins are never
exactly similar, they resembled each other without flaw. They even shared the same, tiny
birthmark under their left eye.
And I towards my friend, and i could almost see envy, as if she would of liked to join, or
at least have me hold in her such a way. But she seemed timid, or nervous, even scared to try
for my attention or anything. Polar opposite to how open her sister is. I could see her face in an
awkward state, as she pretended to tend to something on her phone.
It wasn't too long after that i was kicked from the room, for the obvious. I still felt
amazing, at that moment nobody else mattered, I could of lost every friend i had, the attention of
every girl that I know, and still be content with only her company. I later decided to search for
them, but they were nowhere to be found, as hard as i looked without seeming like a creep. But
as i guessed, they were nowhere to be found. And for some reason, i searched for her, not her
sister, even how passionately we had just shared each other's company, i just wanted to see
her.

She is real, and she’d never know that i’ve dropped myself right in the palm of her hand.
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I dont think anyone could feel as strongly about it as i do, but i still wanted to post it.

Feedback isnt needed, but it is welcome

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