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Name a better German author.
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protip: i can't

GOAThe desu.
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Let the Greek mould his clay

To the forms he’s planned,

And take increasing pleasure

In the product of his hands:
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nah he's GGAOAT

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So /lit/izens, I am curious about your opinions on who are the most poetic hip hop lyricists.

I am asking on /lit/ to see who has the best technical ability in writing rhymes, and /mu/ wouldn't be the best place to ask about poetic capability.
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>>7664236
I haven't heard any hip hop with any poetic merit.
They can make some rhymes, but that alone does not make poetry.
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>>7664266
Not the question. I didn't ask if hip hop had any poetic merit, I asked which hip hop performers had the most poetic lyrics. Obviously their rhymes are not going to be on par with poets like Keats or Poe, or many popular poets in literary circles. I was just curious who /lit/ thought had the most skill.
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eminem desu

"If I can't batter the women, how the fuck am I supposed to bake them a cake then?"

GOAT

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I want to become a certain kind of medical professional. I'm trying to get into a program. I have a few great textbooks thanks to bookzz.org and #bookz on IRC.

However, when I sit down to read, I can't stay focused. I'm genuinely interested in what I'm reading and I am passionate about getting into a program, but I just can't fucking focus. I get into it and within 10 minutes I'm thinking about what needs to be done around the house or remembering things I've meant to look up online.

What the fuck can I do to make myself a more dedicated reader? Or am I just fucked because I can't naturally do it?

Also, I'd like to acquire more books if anyone has more leads.

Thanks for any insight, tips, or personal strategies.
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>>7664211
Get on a train journey, put some in-ear headphones in, music or not as you please and enjoy 1-2 hour each way of joyful reading time. I do it a lot on the way to work (about 2 hours each way of reading) and even with the disturbance of being in the rush hour i can pile through books at speed. Plus try reading something different made of paper if you are reading electronically, it may make enough difference to start you off.
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>>7664211
Any answer I give would be like telling a fat person who is asking how to lose weight to eat less.
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>>7664211
- Pomodoro technique https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomodoro_Technique
- Try to focus on the process of reading the book
- Learn to ignore distractions
- When you are lying in the bed or some shit and you want to read 4chan or some other shit, start reading the book instead.

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/lit/

I'm curious. What made the greats great? Was it because they wrote about things no one ever wrote about before? Or is it because of the way they wrote and they're ability to put out page after page of solid work? Give an example of a writer you consider to have been truly great and the reasons why you believe so.
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Shakespeare, William. Read complete works between 14 and 15. One would like to have filmed him in the role of the King's Ghost. His verbal poetic texture is the greatest the world has ever known, and immensely superior to the structure of his plays as plays. It is the metaphor that is the thing, not the play. A genius.
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>>7663991
Bump for hugely under-rated subject proposed in the thread
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>>7663991
They had great publicists.

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>making your history start with a character waking up
>"dirty realism"
>bureaucrat suffers existential crisis
>comparing something to a whore
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>>7663738
>"dirty realism"
I could understand calling it cliché, but why lazy?
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>>7663738
examples of comparing something to a whore?
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>>"dirty realism"
Such as?

>>7663753
Shakey did it in the second scene of Macbeth, iirc. Fantasy authors do that all the time too

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So we all agree he's the best writer of the 20th century, right?
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The question should be : is Joyce the only worthwhile contestant to that title ?

Answer: maybe.
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Thomas Pnychon
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>>7661347
Joyce is gay

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Will reading sad literature help me tune with my emotions or will it just push me off the edge and an hero?

I'm crushingly lonely and in a college without any future prospects.

I refer to books such as Sorrows of Young Werther or Stoner.
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There is no way to know until you try.
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Read Meditations, pussy.
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It depends on your take of the books of course.
If you see light it will give it to you, if you see darkness you will read that too. Your mind poisons your reading.

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Let's talk about the greatest American poet /lit/
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>>7660159
you go ahead, anon
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neither of these people are edgar Allan poe. Thread failed.
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>>7660649
lol

any good books that serve as a good intro / overview to / of feminist theory / care ethics?
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Beauvoir's Second Sex? I have a friend that swears by it.
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Oh and for care ethics, look in to Rudolf Steiner.
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the golden notebook^1

1. i don't really know if this does or not

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I need some books that would help me understand complex political theory, geopolitics, etc.

I just finished reading Clash of Civilizations by Samuel Huntington and I found it really interesting.
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Advise and Consent by Allen Drury is fantastic for understanding the impact of perceived Soviet espionage in the 1950s, as well as the diplomatic process toward a resolution. It's also a valiant effort at chronicling the machinations of the Senate, which is often poorly done. Would recommend
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>>7664599

Thank you, I will be sure to check it out

Anything that would help me understand the international political processes
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The End of History and the Last Man by Francis Fukuyama
The Tragedy of Great Power Politics by John Mearsheimer
Theory of International Politics by Kenneth Waltz
Politics Among Nations by Hans Morgenthau
Social Theory of International Politics by Alexander Wendt
World Order by Henry Kissinger

What's the conclusion (regarding how to act in life) one would draw from Schopenhauer "will".
If the will of the world is a thing and every individuals motivation is just an aspect of it.. okay but what consequences does this idea have at all for the individual?

If I try to answer this, it seems like he just wants a strategy of avoiding something bad.
Why is he so obsessed with suffering? I think he is. Why so negative? Is that stuff applicable to the West today?
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everything is the aspect of will not just "motivation" your eyes your mouth your fingers, the will to do each of the things they do, it has to do with the kantian thing-in-itself is beyond experience, schopenhauer's will is that thing

for schoepenhauer all things including life is just expression of this will, you can't escape it nor can you satisfy it
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>>7664709
so it's meaningless to humans, isn't it?

Hi, /lit/, I know this will go under appreciated. But I would just like to say that I love this board and those posters that take their time to contribute to threads. This is the only board that doesn't make me depressed or gives me the vague sense that something very wrong is going on. It has also opened my eyes to how much there is yet to experience, and that makes me happy about the future. Thanks faggots.
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>>7663961
*shoves you against a locker* hey! y-you're alright anon
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we're harsh on each other here but I think its all for the better
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>>7663961
Man, 4chan has really one to shit if you think /lit/ is comparatively ok.
/lit/ used to be even better than this.
RIP archives

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I'm writing off the cuff because of severe writers block towards a project I'm working on. Would like to know if you guys like this style of writing.

Tell them I was happy. Tell them I lived a fulfilling life and had no regrets. Tell them I wrote something inspiring and beautiful and poetic or something. It would be pathetic if my death was embarrassing as my life. - unedited suicide note

When I go out into a crowd. I feel all their eyes scan across me. I see their face twist and contort in disgust. As if they already know what type of shitty person I am without taking the prescribed six months of knowing me to figure it out. What the fuck happened? I was finger banging solid sixes yesterday then I passed out in a vodka fueled stupor and awoke in a panic thirty pounds heavier worried about all the things I've already fucked up. Scared to death of things already set in motion set in stone. I've tried to outrun the grinding millstone that I set in motion years ago with the constant steady string of bad decisions but its catching up ready to crush whatever soul and flickering dreams I cling to. Two years to the big three O. Two more years of failed investments and relationships. Two more years of bad television and masturbation. Two more torturous years till I'm officially dead inside. I'm learned enough to understand that we humans hit agemarks on our journey to the grave where we pick up habits that we kinda fall into. Like being obsessed with pokemon and riding bikes and blowing frogs up with firecrackers or listening to edgy shitty music and trying to touch boobs or being able to touch boobs and then wanted to stick your dick between them or sipping beer and taking a hit from a poorly rolled joint made of printer paper to killing a thirty rack and ripping dabs from space age contraptions. Then comes the coke and the sad whores who have kids but still want to party and at moment as you're getting blown by the prom queen who now looks like a leather bag ran over by a tractor trailer, a blowjob that is basically paid for in coke mind you, you begin to understand that your life that was once a circus had turned into a fucking horror show and there's no goddamn exit in sight.
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At that moment you go soft in disgust and she keeps suckin because she wants that white lightening you begin to look back at all those bad moves and wrong turns. All those good girls you treated like shit and all those smuts you treated like goddamn goddesses. All those times you ignored the pleas of your parents to go to college. That one time or two or three times you fucked a fat chick. The time where being in love freaked you the fuck out and you literally snorted and drank and screamed a stable relationship away. That time where you drank too much and woke up upside down in your car and then went on to tell the cops to eat your dick. And as I think of these grand fuckups my dick shrivels up inside myself and the raggedy whore between my legs is desperately sucking at the hole in my crotch trying to suck my groundhog out of its prairie den. Now I get angry and I need to hit something so I push the living vacuum off my crouch and she starts crying because she thinks her payment of booger sugar won't be coming and I tell her I'm going to slap her around for a bit and after I'm done she'll take the entire eightball and get the fuck out of my shitty one bedroom apartment. She stops crying and she smiles and at its peak just when too much teeth begin to show I start the slappin and she stops smilin. I'm reelin out viscous wallops to her head and face and neck and tits and she's back to crying now. She puts her hand out and softly begs me to stop but a deals a deal so I slap her hand away and go even harder. Open hands become fists and smacks become dull thuds and she takes each one like a champ because this isn't her first rage filled rodeo for coke and it certainly won't be the last. I stop hitting her when my sobs are louder and stranger than hers and like an emancipated bruised and bleeding ghoul she scurries to the glass top and takes the bag of coke and leaves me to my deep seeded issues.

Now I'm a manager at applebees and life couldn't be better. Two years from now will be my big three O and when that happens I'll be celebrating with a shotgun in my mouth. Merry christmas happy new year go fuck yourself.
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protip: if you have to selfbump 4 times it's trash
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>>7663145
>>7663148
Tip: don't write if you don't understand grammar.

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Can genre fiction be looked at critically and as Capital-L Literature? Is it just a select few novels within the framework of genre fiction or can it be any?
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Why are you letting yourself get infected by /lit/ memes.

There's as much shit "literary" fiction as there is garbage genre fiction that the distinction is ultimately superficial. There's only good and bad fiction.
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>>7662379
>why are you guys talking about aesthetics don't you know everything is just atoms
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>>7662374
If you can make an interesting argument for the worth of a piece of fiction, go for it. just be aware that for the vast majority of genre fiction, it will be an uphill climb, not only because academia in general will be working against you (though this is starting to thaw out), but the work itself will be absolutely insipid in large percentages.

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>college prof
>"anon don't write like that, it's corny, pseudo intellectual, self-gratifying, and cheap"
>"but let me tell you about this famous author who wrote exactly like you do, and why he's hot shit."

Fuck academia
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Anon learns about context and why it is important.
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>this retard thinks he is hot shit
>he is not
LMAO
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>actually be a college prof
>"anon, don't write that. a^2 + b^2 = (a+b)^2 is clearly false in general"
>but let me tell you about how I think it should go and this really great idea I had about how I could write that equation

the student in question was operating in a finite field of prime order

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