>2016
>not writing with Swiss made luxury writing instruments
Very veblen
> not zebra mech pencils
D R O P P E D
Futuristic Military Fiction
Recommendations:
>Fantasy
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>Sci-Fi
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>What are you currently reading
>What is your favorite futuristic military fiction
>Which author writes the best futuristic military fiction
Old thread >>7633250
>>7651355
What is some good japanese scifi? tried reading all you need is kill and my god it was awful.
>>7651355
>What are you currently reading
Titus Groan & Ficciones for fiction
>What is your favorite futuristic military fiction
I really liked Horus Heresy but I stopped reading it a while back, probably should return to it.
>Which author writes the best futuristic military fiction
I dont know, Dan Abnett is cool. I'm down for any other reccomendations
>>7651367
I hear Genocidal Organ is really good, shame the anime movie is all held up. It looked really promising.
>Marquis de Sade
>"philosopher"
>>7666244
This is the literature board, bub.
sage and report
>>7666247
Marquis de Sade is literature, though.
>>7666250
Autistic categorizing belongs on /mu/ though.
So I've just read Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas for the fifth time - what a beautiful piece of writing this book is.
It employs any literary technique HST felt like using to develop itself to the fullest, its language is hot and rhytmic and tangential to the issue at hand while still being teleologically pointed to what is wants to convey or excite to/in the reader (that's prose for you, in a nutshell) and its plot, holy shit. Have I ever read a more accomplished contemporary work of profoundity and ALLEGORY. A new Knight, a new Quest. Also Kierkegaard and shit but I posted that elsewhere.
What do you think? How do you feel about it? What isn't as well as I think it is? Also, would you recommend the gonzo papers?
>>7665144
It's a work knee deep in Allegory for sure, but I feel like it had a lot of redundancy and baggage in getting across its central point. Too much stuff to tell too little.
However, as a work of comedy I rank Fear and Loathing among the greatest books ever written. Every one of Hunters little observations he makes throughout the book is an insightful and cutting political comment and makes him feel like a very real person at least to me, as I know a few people like that, with strong opinions expressed entirely through the medium of jokes. I feel like you have to read Raoul Dukes strange rantings as Hunters sense of humour being expressed in the way he would express it in real life, as opposed to the ravings of a madman, which it may look like.
Also, when the book shys away from the comedy and gets serious, boy does it hit home.
>>7665182
I'm very tired and that on a second reading this comment appeared a little incoherent. I'll continue discussion in the morning, as I am heading to bed, but my opinion is as follows: Fear and Loathing primarily succeeds as a work of comedy, accomplishing all of its political and social commentary through that, and I feel that the book must be viewed through that lens to really shine. It's almost like Jonathon Swift (in A Modest Proposal in particular) but with the more modern use of everyday sarcasm.
Of course, that's also one of the great tragedies of Fear and Loathing: that Hunter, once the idealistic activist that he was, is now reduced to nothing but drug fuelled sarcasm in a shitty hotel room in Vegas.
>>7665144
I feel like it's not as good as the The Tunnel. You should read The Tunnel.
Is reading plays stupid? Arent they meant to be experienced in theatre?
No.
kinda
Who do you think would win in a fight, Plato or Hemingway?
>>7664982
Better question... If Machiavelli fought Homer, who would win?
Plato. Hemmingway only ever won a fight against Wallace Stevens who was nearly 60 years old at the time of the fight.
Joyce would rile up people at the pub just to see people kick Ernies's ass.
>>7664992
Considering The Prince was satire that was written so that Machiavelli didn't get his shit permanently kicked in, I'd say Homer.
Favourite epic poems? Bonus points for lesser known
Aniara
gerusalemme liberata and orlando furioso are great
he Epic of Manas (Kyrgyz: Maнac дacтaны, Turkish: Manas Destanı) is a traditional epic poem of the Kyrgyz people. Composed and sung entirely in oral form by various singers throughout the centuries. As nomads, the Kyrgyz had no written language. Kyrgyz writer Chingiz Aitmatov notes: "If other peoples/nations displayed their past culture and history in written art, the sculpture, architecture, theatre and literature, Kyrgyz people expressed their worldview, pride and dignity, battles and their hope for the future in epic genre."
Today there are about sixty versions of the epic Manas recorded from various epic singers and oral poets. Its longest version, consisting of half a million poetic lines, was written down from one of the last master-manaschï (singers of Manas) Saiakbai Karalaev (1894-1971). The epic is indeed unique in its size. It is twenty times longer than the Homeric epics Iliad (15693) and Odyssey (12110) taken together and two and a half times the length of the Indian epic Mahabharata.
If I read nothing but the New Testament for a year, will I become a good writer /lit/?
>>7664326
Yes but only if you write in double column.
Stop deluding yourself. The NT is merely a history book with certain, shitty life lessons. There is no reason to read it more than once and stop lying to yourselves
>>7664344
Just admit it's over your head.
I'm 150 pages deep and I'm still not feeling it. I get really into some passages, then others (usually the theological stuff) really send me to sleep. Is the theological stuff the point? Should I persevere? Am I just too plen for this?
took me an entire summer to get through
8/10 would not go through again
Keep going until you finish The Grand Inquisitor, then stop if you don't like it. Revisit it some other time if you want. You're not going to like everything hailed as incredible and that's okay.
I'm nearing the end of the novel. The final third, with the exception of one of the "books" which is total filler, is really engrossing. If nothing else, read the Grand Inquisitor. All in all, though, it's a pretty turgid book with a lot of fluff.
>"A cultural idea - such as belief in Christian heaven above the clouds or Communist Paradise here on earth - can compel a human to dedicate his or her life to spreading that idea, even at the price of death. The human dies, but the idea spreads. According to this approach, cultures are not conspiracies concocted by some people in order to take advantage of others (as Marxists tend to think). Rather, cultures are mental parasites that emerge accidentally, and thereafter take advantage of all people infected by them.
>"This approach is sometimes called memetics. It assumes that, just as organic evolution is based on the replication of organic information units called 'genes', so cultural evolution is based on the replication of cultural information units called 'memes'. Successful cultures are those that excel in reproducing memes, irrespective of the costs and benefits to their human hosts."
Thought you might like this /lit/
>>7663026
>"OMG he said maymay, guis!! XDDD"
epin
>>7663033
I don't like interesting things, the post.
>>7663044
>memes
>interesting
back to /s4s/, cuckold
Hey /lit/, I need some help. I like to read to my children before I they and I go to bed. Recently, I've been reading books from my childhood growing up that I've enjoyed (pic related). However, there was one book that I immensely enjoyed that I forgot the name of. To me, it felt like it portrayed hope in a bleak world perfectly. I remember some things about it, but I can't remember the title. I was hoping you guys can help me remember it and/or recommended your personal favorites growing up. Thank you for your time.
What I remember from about this particular book:
>Pretty sure it was based off a true story.
>Set in the Holocaust.
>MC separates from his mother during the winter when trying to escape via train.
>Flees to the Middle East on his own (I think, Idk for sure and where exactly).
>Survives for a while.
>Joins a band of kids/teenagers that work together to survive.
>Band enjoys riding trains and I think they act like the world is theirs?
>Leader is a male teenager who becomes a mentor for the MC, firm but kind and compassionate.
>Leader has a close female friend that acts sorta like a big caring sister to the MC.
>Heavily implied female was raped and impregnated by sinister chef for scraps of food.
>It's implied Leader killed the chef for revenge and fled with female.
>MC's life goes on: occasionally thinks about them (imagines them riding trains enjoying the world) and at this point has developed into a kindly realistic surviving vagrant.
>Eventually reunites with his family after traveling the world for a while.
>Epilogue states he tried to live a normal life again with his family, but he has severe wanderlust and occasionally goes on minor journeys because school is too boring for him.
>In the beginning of the book, he had a childish fear of growing up short (especially with the circumstances trying to survive the Holocaust) but in the epilogue the book ends (I think) with it stating he grew up into a tall man.
>reading Holocaust books to your children
wew lad
>>7664656
I just wanted help getting my kids into reading.
How DEEP is Pynchon, on a scale from Bret Easton Ellis to Phillip K. Dick?
Extremely. One of the best writers you can read, if not THE best. I don't read fiction that much anymore, but I've thought about buying another Pynchon every now and then. Very technical engineering/mathematical knowledge, in depth philosophical vistas and a general appreciation for mystery and detective-esque tension.
>>7662546
The Pinecone will go further up your ass than Dick, who was rather flaccid on the whole.
>>7662556
If you think Pynchon has technical material, you most likely haven't taken a mathematics course beyond Derivatives. His tech knowledge is pedestrian at best, and only introduced to make plebs nod and stare.
His philosophical approach to life is pretty awesome and his satire is top notch, however.
t. Math phd
I want to learn philosophy, /lit/ but I don't know how to start.
Recommend me a book that would be suitable for a complete beginner.
*I checked the wiki but I found nothing useful.
>>7664616
>I want to learn philosophy but I don't know how to start.
Gain a fundamental understanding of the concept of good and evil first. Read a religious text like the Bible. Or just the Ten Commandments.
>>7664619
I have already read the bible.
start with the greeks
Questions that don't deserve their own thread
Could someone help me in identifying a literary device? It's a scene in which a man is discouraging girls from wearing beautiful clothes and cult hair so that they may keep their minds on God, but when he is saying this he is interrupted by his daughters coming into the room, who are wearing beautiful clothes and have curly hair.
I know this shows the man is a hypocrite, but would this scene be ironic? Or something else?
Why is Stoner so popular on /lit/?
>>7657445
This is a literature board and Stoner is a great piece of literature.
I want to start reading Vox Day but don't know where to start. What is your favorite book by Day?
Internet is no help and I've been getting different answers from different people so I thought I'd ask here.
If I'm writing a story in first person, would I write my narration exactly like the main character's dialogue, or would I write the narration with better grammar spelling?
For example if my character has the following dialect
>"We went shoppin' and then went ridin' 'round town"
would the narration be
>Chase went 'round the corner before bringin' back a book
or
>Chase went around the corner before bringing back a book
pic unrelated
>>7666122
I'd poke her hontas if you catch my drift.
the former
you dumb fucking idiot
read some first person stuff next time
you know what i'm doing *wink* :^)