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>principles

Woops, not sure if I ought to be using the plural there.

>>7669953
>and clinging to this and then to that which depends on this, by
>successive steps she descends again without the aid of any sensible object, from
>ideas, through ideas, and in ideas she ends."

Assuming he's speaking of clingings to hypothesis here, could he be summarizing the Socratic method?

That is, you ask what the hypothesis depends on, what that depends on, etcetera, etcetera to "descend"?

So, "if I drop this ball it will fall" could be my hypothesis, I would then ask "what is a ball?", "what is a fall?" etc, to descend into principles?

I find making sense of this paragraph very difficult, it came out of nowhere really.

http://www.idph.net/conteudos/ebooks/republic.pdf

Full-text, if anyone wants to read.

Page 371-372 Is the bit that's got me.

read the wiki first before asking for recs

American Psycho.

On Women - Schopenhauer

Go on and get Lolita out of the way

Crime and Punishment

>>7669862
Get it out of the way? Is it bad?

>>7669865
Is Crime and Punishment an easy-ish read, or is it difficult?

>>7669754
One of the greatest French writer if you like mysticism and pamphlets.
Some of his major works, yet still have to read his articles.
Learn French because I guess it can't be translated. Several english translations exist though.

woah first time i see this photo of nietzsche

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>>7669900
jej

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bumping with a few to start off

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>>7669472
Probably my favorite part of The Tunnel is when Kohler explains his attempt to get a dog as a child.

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From Suttree, Gene Harrogate describing why he is known as the Midnight Melon Mounter.

>>7669714
Or MOONLIGHT Melon Mounter, it's been so long I can't remember.

>threefold repetition

Bait

>>7669306
Bait? What do you mean? It's not even a provocative post. I'm seriously suggesting that we take this stand, and make our contribution to the growing field of memetics and semantics with our wicked sense of humour included.

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Well, I knew academia wouldn't seriously consider my metamodernist approach, but I wasn't expecting this nonchalant and pretentious demeanor from you. I am deeply disappointed.

I attach a picture of Zizek to beguile you into thinking.

No matter how charming Bond comes off in the films, the written Bond is a whole different animal. Hearing his inner monologue is enough to make you want to tear your eyes out. He doesn't consider women to be human, or people. He also makes horrible stereotypes about everyone in the book who is not a white British man. He also gets really turned on at the thought of rape, although he never rapes anyone in this book. It's very disturbing to read about.

Also, to all the women who think James Bond is really hot - you may think that about the movie character but I seriously doubt you would feel the same about the book character. Constantly described as cold, harsh, brutal, cruel, ruthless, and hard (over and over and over) by Fleming, Bond is hardly someone you'd want to have a relationship with - or even a one-night-stand. He describes women in this book as: beasts, wretches, fools, idiots, and bitches. A LOT. He tends to go off on long, sexist/racist rants in his head. Also, his idea of sex is always described as: ravishment, ravaging, 'bending her to his will,' or a way to 'coldly...put his body to the test.'

When Vesper gets kidnapped at one point, he is furious with her and curses her out. He makes the cold, logical decision that her life doesn't matter (since she is an agent) and plans accordingly - her death is acceptable. When both she and Bond are kidnapped and in the back of a car being driven to god-knows-where to be raped or tortured, Bond is TURNED ON by how sexy she looks with bound and with her legs exposed. ON HIS WAY TO BE TORTURED, this is what he's thinking - about a woman who is helpless and probably about to be gang-raped. I mean, this is a sick, sick man here.

Bond is told that he's going to be paired with another agent and he's shocked and appalled to find out that his partner is female. Of course the woman, Vesper Lynd, is amazingly good-looking and Bond alternates throughout the book with his warring feelings of contempt for her and wanting to f*ck her.

No matter how charming Bond comes off in the films, the written Bond is a whole different animal. Hearing his inner monologue is enough to make you want to tear your eyes out. He doesn't consider women to be human, or people. He also makes horrible stereotypes about everyone in the book who is not a white British man. He also gets really turned on at the thought of rape, although he never rapes anyone in this book. It's very disturbing to read about.

Also, to all the women who think James Bond is really hot - you may think that about the movie character but I seriously doubt you would feel the same about the book character. Constantly described as cold, harsh, brutal, cruel, ruthless, and hard (over and over and over) by Fleming, Bond is hardly someone you'd want to have a relationship with - or even a one-night-stand. He describes women in this book as: beasts, wretches, fools, idiots, and bitches. A LOT. He tends to go off on long, sexist/racist rants in his head. Also, his idea of sex is always described as: ravishment, ravaging, 'bending her to his will,' or a way to 'coldly...put his body to the test.'

When Vesper gets kidnapped at one point, he is furious with her and curses her out. He makes the cold, logical decision that her life doesn't matter (since she is an agent) and plans accordingly - her death is acceptable. When both she and Bond are kidnapped and in the back of a car being driven to god-knows-where to be raped or tortured, Bond is TURNED ON by how sexy she looks with bound and with her legs exposed. ON HIS WAY TO BE TORTURED, this is what he's thinking - about a woman who is helpless and probably about to be gang-raped. I mean, this is a sick, sick man here.

I think it's fair to mention that Bond's genitals are brutally tortured for an hour by Le Chiffre. After this ordeal, Bond spends a lot of time in the hospital recovering. I liked that Fleming wasn't trying to make him some super-human who recovers immediately. Of course, Bond eventually decides that taking Vesper to bed will be the perfect test to make sure his make sure his equipment is still functioning properly.

I understand that these books are classics and that James Bond is an icon. I really do. And I understand why people love the books - adventure, torture, being a spy who is rich, beds tons of women, and travels to exotic places. It's not that I don't understand the appeal of this pulp fiction. Wholly unrealistic, it's a fantasy. Real, actual spywork (I'd imagine) is NOTHING like the government giving you millions of pounds to gamble away, pairing you up with a sexy female agent that they are fine with you having sex with, and setting you up in a resort-like location where your every whim is catered to. Because that's your 'cover.' *rolls eyes

don't blame anyone for loving, enjoying, and gobbling up these books. However, as a woman in 2014 I just can't ignore the screaming, in-your-face racism and sexism that permeates every page of this novel.

Fleming is a good author - there are some gems in here, some great lines and some deep philosophical pondering on Bond's part (this surprised me, he's usually very shallow). Also, no one can write a long villain speech like Fleming can. Le Chiffre's long speech to Bond about how he's going to torture him and there's no hope is wonderful and can be perfectly imagined playing out on the big screen. Classic.

Tl;dr - Exciting spy novel drenched in misogyny and racism

its more able the people I find and you can find relate able people anywhere

I live in Arizona, so that's something.

>ywn be american

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Whoever has the last word is a faggot, faggot.

I mean, in good faith, it would be unfair of you to return an insult directed toward you that
was true.

Obviously nothing is physically or logically preventing you from returning fire.

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Human

Oh come now, /lit/, are we really going to abandon a fresh topic in exchange for five Bukowski threads?

Please?

White Goddess is fucking weird

If you want a good intro to it, get his Greek Myths and read the weirder femdom parts of his exegesis. Speaking as a femdomfag, reading WG is immediately like "oh hello Graves, I see you also like femdom." Something weeeeird was going on there.

Check out Bachofen as well if you're interested in that sort of thing

>>7668708
>Am I stupid if I have a somewhat casual interest in philosophy and literature but I still pursue other arts like music and cinema?
get off of 4chan senpai its gonna rot your brain

>>7668726
what do you mean?

Also I've been here for about 5 years at this point so I think I'm past the point of no return m8

>>7668708

Yes, you're stupid. Every mature and intelligent man should have an interest in every single important human development in the world, and you don't get to play favourites with each area.

I have an adblocker f4m

>>7668718
But would you use a site for free publishing(which could possible steal your intellectual property)

So no one actually writes here?

Good to know

There is a surprisingly decent amount of occultists here I think but they kind of come out haphazardly

what do you mean esoteric books or encyclopedias of things? or encyclopedias of esoteric things?

>>7668431

Is OP's pic a good introduction if I want to learn more about demonology?

>>7668329
I've been enjoying a collection of scriptures called the Buddha and his Dhamma. You can find it online pretty easily.

Zen Flesh, Zen Bones is an amazing collection if you're interested in the Zen aspect of Buddhism.

I've read one of Dalai Lama's books and was not very impressed. It struck me as one of those spiritual self-help books that middle aged women read.

The Dhammapada is essential obviously, and actually a good read at that. The Heart Sutra and the Diamond Sutra are fantastic as well.

>>7668329
Taranatha is the key source of Indian Buddhist history from within Buddhism itself and is the historical authority within Tibetan Buddhism. I have not read much of this text but I am more or less aware of it and its general importance to Buddhist history.

I find the essays published by Bhikkhu Bodhi on the access to insight website to be quite insightful as his writings are a good balance between being philosophically engaging without abandoning the fundamental religious message that Buddhism seeks to convey. His essay on the Buddha, Arhat and Bodhisattva is quite interesting to read as well as his essay on Transcendental Dependent arising.

I will link you to his page on the website as I find that they are very enjoyable to read and easily accessible. http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/authors/bodhi/
If you are more interested in the Philosophical aspect of Buddhism I suggest Nagarjuna's Fundamental Wisdom of the Middle Way by translated by Jay Garfield as his commentary is written with a student of philosophy in mind but is by no means a watering down of the text.

If you enjoy Tibetan Buddhism John Powers Introduction to Tibetan Buddhism is a fantastic text that covers the entirety of Tibetan Historical and Religious development beginning with the Buddhism in India.

These are just some broad suggestions for texts that I have found enjoyable and insightful in the past.

My favourite sutra is the Vimalakirti Sutra.