which book is the hardest to read of the 3?
>>8368549
none you fucking idiots. read a real author like hawkes, gaddis or beckett. fucking morons.
Dhalgren isn't really that hard...its just weird
Gravity's Rainbow is pretty difficult, but obviously Ulysses iscleary a notch or two above GR in the challenging department
>>8368549
Easily Ulysses
>he doesn't read books from finish to start
>read sparknotes for all the 'classic' literature
>use the time I saved up to read actually enjoyable genre fiction
>>8368327
>You're afraid to be holier-than-thou because you have acrophobia and those heights are scary.
I usually read the last page first
/lit/ ask an intellectual who has read nearly every relevant literature out there anything.
what's in my pocket?
>>8368318
Another pocket.
>>8368316
u gay?
Bible thread.
Currently reading Numbers. God damn the Israelites were whiny idiots. How many times does God need to slaughter you fuckers for disobeying until you stop??
Ordering a copy in German soon, gonna be fun christbrudi
Kek, this was my reaction when first diving into the Old Testament. The modern meme is that God is a murderous asshole, but by the time you're done with the OT it almost seems like the Hebrews deserved it.
Also, they both got better. Mostly.
The Israelites really were annoying. I felt really sorry for Moses; imagine having to put up with that shit for 40 years.
Why are French intellectuals so pretentious?
>>8368292
Postmodernist """""intellectuals"""""
>>8368292
It's all that's left when anyone can have an idea
>Americans are still impressed by people just being smart
>>8368292
Because they can hide behind walls of prose.
this book is god awful, such pretentious rubbish. save yourself the time, skip this.
only one from the meme trilogy that doesn't interest me
>>8368225
agreed, it was a total drag. i actually can say im with you on this one, OP..
>>8368225
GR and IJ are literally trash
What did I just read?
galactic pot-healer by philip k. dick
nice genre trash
What are your favourite PKD works, /lit/?
>>8368218
Valis, because I've eaten too many psychedelics
When did pop culture decide that Victor Frankenstein got a doctorate?
Around the time they decided Frankenstein was the monster.
>>8367899
But Frankenstein was the monster.
>>8368138
Dohoho.
> Conclusion: We moderns will more than likely side with Nietzsche when we first encounter both thinkers. Even including creationists who oppose Darwin, because modernity is essentially the idea that life fundamentally has the possibility and the promise of continuing onto more perfect forms by transcending itself beyond the now. Therefore, Nietzsche expresses modernity much better than Schopenhauer in certain respects.
> However, Schopenhauer ends up defending the tougher case with better results. He is the superior philosopher, for he has that mysterious relation to the absolute that preoccupies both great thinkers and great artists alike. By peering into the abyss of himself, Schopenhauer detects the echoes of being. Even though these faint echoes are contaminated by his subjectivity, and resonate perhaps only with others of like disposition, the resonance extends deeply and the totality of cosmos is detected therein.
http://www.hyperboreans.com/heterodoxia/?p=113
Neet stans BTFO?
thought?
Buddha is better than both
The trouble with Nietzsche's argument against pessimism, that we can't objectively/impartially judge life and existence from 'without', is that it can equally be applied to optimism/life-affirmation.
The fact is that both are legitimate positions to take, which works in the absurdist's favour.
Wtf is up with Ayn Rand's 70 page monologue in Atlas Shrugged? For fuck's sake.
>>8367810
It was autism
It was autism
> Though he tends to stick to Twitter now, Lin first made a name for himself on 4chan’s /lit/ board, where he inspired the meme “Go to bed, Tao.”
The absolute madman, does he still lurk here? Memes aside.
>>8367717
I do
no he have money & so much pussy now, mr. lin drive ferrari and fuck sister, no time for 4chan
I am not sure completely
Axiom:
The greatest literature is universalist; it speaks to everyone because it deals with experiences common to the largest possible numbers of human beings: birth, death, marriage, coming of age, memory, identity, belonging, violence.
>In a 1992 interview with The New York Times, Cormac McCarthy famously said that he only cares for writers who “deal with issues of life and death.” He disses Proust and Henry James, saying “I don’t understand them . . . that’s not literature. A lot of writers who are considered good I consider strange.”
GR>Blood Meridian
Blood Meridian stops at Death's doorway, when death is but a particular expression of a fundamental tendency in the universe of physical laws: entropy, which GR (and other of Pynchon's work, such as the short story "Entropy"). Because Entropy is a level of generality (and hence universality) above death, GR > Blood Meridian.
Discuss Debate Deplore.
Go.
>Cormac McCarthy famously said that he only cares for writers who “deal with issues of life and death.”
What a dumb thing to say
>>8367691
artists are allowed to believe stupid shit if it helps them write blood meridian, but fuck i hate when they think their bullshit is worth something because of the work they produced
>>8367732
I get what Cormac is saying, but it is a massive hyperbole. It's the egoist speaking. No room for the other, the recognition of which is the foundation of ethics a la Levinas. He deals with death and life, therefore his way is best way. Everyone has memories and memory is an essential mediator of self-hood and consciousness. Him dissing Proust and James is ridiculous. Both are his superiors.
hey /lit/ what are some good, lesser known, surrealist novels? Maybe stuff similar to the street of crocodiles by Bruno Schultz.
>>8367591
I don't know what you'd consider lesser known. There's a list in the sticky I believe.
Crevel is good-lesser-known-core
sticky chart if you haven't seen it is good. marks books by movement
>Comrades, we must...
>>8367563
>implying that redpillism isn't most ideologically toxic worldview crafted in the modern world.
>>8367597
Arguably, it's as equally toxic as Tumblr far-far-leftism.
>>8367597
I mean, there's the pro-cyanide people.
Do we have any playwrights here on /lit/?
I am one, and I finally have a new idea for an full enjoyable play--can't give away details.
I plan on writing it, and then getting a scene "dramatically read" or "cold reading" in front of a small audience in a grimmy underground hipster theatre.
I've done it before, it was nice.
Anyone else have similar experiences?
alright then.
Do you guys think it is fun to do a playwright?
Any tips for writing a playwright in the first place?