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can something abstract ever be good? doubt it
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>>8370415
you're a fucking idiot, what about broadway boogie woogie.
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>>8370418
good point, maybe conceptual was a better word
Name a work of fiction edgier than this.
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>>8370381
American Psycho just because of how tryhard it is.
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>>8370381
The Darkness That Came Before by Bakker, hands down.
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Cows by Matthew Stokoe
High Life, also by him
Babyfucker, I've been told
Some Edogawa Ranpo stories, but I guess it's because Suehiro Maruo did a stellar job turning them into manga form
Just naming a few
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Okay lads its time for a Maupassant thread.
Favorite story?
Opinions on Boule de Suif?
In the Bedroom and The Decoration were my favs.
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>>8370324
http://www.cosmoetica.com/B311-DES251.htm
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My aunt loves his stuff and gave me his "Best short stories" for birthday.
It's a fucking Wordsworth edition, they don't even name the translator. Has anyone read it? Is it acceptable? (inb4 >translation)
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>>8370480
who is the translator?
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>the categorical imperative
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>>8370187
dumb animeposter
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>>8370187
>morals are subjective
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>>8370201
it's quite a coincidence that none of the posts shared on /r/4chan are from the anime/weeb boards, don't you think?
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What does /lit/ think of The Motorcycle Diaries? I'm about a third of the way through it and it's pretty fun and comfy. Also pretty funny at a lot of times; it's made me grin on plenty of occasions so far. But it's also poignant as to the plight of the working class; Chè really emphasizes the American people as one and the proletariat working class as very relatable and sympathetic figures. It's a charming book but at the same time really shines light on the early radicalization of Chè. It's a good book so far.
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we at /lit/ do not read for pleasure or comfort. We read for a sense of smug superiority over those who have not put in the time to read, difficult, often punishing books.Also, we are white and politically conservative and dont consider Mr Guevera a suitable topic for conversation.
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>>8370173
Speak for yourself. Yes OP I agree, it was quite enjoyable.
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>>8370173
>Also, we are white and politically conservative
It's a shame you didn't throw in male just to emphasize your tourist status.
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What is your favourite book?
Maybe not objectively the best, but your favourite.
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>>8370110
I dont know. How do you device? Some books are page-turners but otherwise might be pretty mediocre in content. But the only book that I remember being both a page-turner and a serious work of literature is Germinal by Emile Zola so maybe this one?
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>>8370110
Whats so good about this YA book?
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About a third of the way through this.
Is everyone in this story a pedophile or what? Also, does it get any better or should I just drop it?
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>>8370098
>reading for anything other than plot
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You should probably drop it, and also drop coming to this board.
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i liked it cause it gave me a trippy feeling at the end specially
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Redpilled books
I'll start:
Tragedy and Hope. The ultimate redpill.
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Ugly, ugly thread.
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>>8370013
The Grand Chessboard
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Anonymous
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Just stumbled upon this monstrosity from about ten years back in an old notebook appropriately titled, "Suicide Note - Rough Draft"
I've seen all the things for me to see
I've done all the things that were meant for me
I(t) was never enough, yet I've had enough
I'm sorry for everything I('ve) do(ne) wrong
I just feel so alone, but please don't feel at fault
I wedge gaps between the ones I love and myself
It's a self defense (read:destruct) mechanism
I'm not made for this world, and I'm surprised I've made it this long
I've found it to be insufferable since childhood
I commend all of your spirits for lasting this long
You're all a lot stronger and braver than you give yourselves credit for
So, I implore you from the great unknown to keep up the good fight against this tyrannical life you were unwillingly and unceremoniously cast into
It'll get better before it gets worse, but for me, death, is better and worse
I strongly believe this to be my one shot at existence, and while I'm upset to leave for it may get better, the outcome just doesn't look too good
Call me a coward until your lungs collapse
I'll have no way of knowing, or caring
>also post other morbid self-cringe
>inb4 get it over with
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Eeehehehee another thread where a bunch of fags all write out long posts and nobody reads except this thread is more frequent than others of similar liking also this thread is literature because writing
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>>8370019
If you can't see the inspiration of Hemingway, Hunter S. Thompson, DFW, or Sylvia Plath in my suicide note then that's your problem.
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>>8370030
I see inspiration from an angsty teen going through babby's first existential crisis tbqhwy, simplify your suicide note. Don't have a rough draft and if you're going to leave with something to say at least get to the fucking point in a sentence or two without a bunch of woeismeisns. And I wasn't attacking your post with that first post, just acknowledging this weird wave of threads we've been getting
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I want to understand the moral philosophy of taking a life in order to save another.
What/whom should I be reading?
Pic related;_;
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>>8369991
Kierkagaard
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>>8369991
That was the fucking worst episode ever, and you should read the Bhagavad-Gita as It is.
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Let's talk Marxian philosophy.
I can't be the only one outside of academia (for god's sake Pareto had an issue with this when considering professional academics) who has troubles with Marx's method in this passage.
Tell me this /lit/ what does it mean for two things to be equal?
Alright, I'll go ahead and say what Frege did (and he knew a thing or two about equality) x equals y just means x is the same as y.
Now, explain to me how the shits and giggles this makes sense:
>A given commodity, e.g., a quarter of wheat is exchanged for x blacking, y silk, or z gold, &c. – in short, for other commodities in the most different proportions. Instead of one exchange value, the wheat has, therefore, a great many. But since x blacking, y silk, or z gold &c., each represents the exchange value of one quarter of wheat, x blacking, y silk, z gold, &c., must, as exchange values, be replaceable by each other, or equal to each other. Therefore, first: the valid exchange values of a given commodity express something equal; secondly, exchange value, generally, is only the mode of expression, the phenomenal form, of something contained in it, yet distinguishable from it.
>Let us take two commodities, e.g., corn and iron. The proportions in which they are exchangeable, whatever those proportions may be, can always be represented by an equation in which a given quantity of corn is equated to some quantity of iron: e.g., 1 quarter corn = x cwt. iron. What does this equation tell us? It tells us that in two different things – in 1 quarter of corn and x cwt. of iron, there exists in equal quantities something common to both. The two things must therefore be equal to a third, which in itself is neither the one nor the other. Each of them, so far as it is exchange value, must therefore be reducible to this third.
Our arguments will eventually center around trying to show how "warranted" the following statement is, or what convincing argument can be made for someone to assent to it:
>secondly, exchange value, generally, is only the mode of expression, the phenomenal form, of something contained in it, yet distinguishable from it.
For those oblivious, said phenomenal form is embodied labour value and it is also the "third thing" two "equal" commodities are reducible to.
I have issues with, as Croce puts it, "this standard [he is speaking of value], which we have endowed with the dignity of law"
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Pic related (yes I know Marx had views on the reduction of skilled to unskilled labor that would allow an explanation of why six hours of sex might fetch different prices even if six hours was the socially necessary labour time, even so take a joke strawman).
P.S. that is a good example of how natural talent can render the LTV useless in some fringe cases, the size of one's dong can hardly be regarded as being able to generate value because some kind of common "labour" were previously applied on it, luckily jelqing works and it's the motion of the ocean not the size of the wave so the LTV is still largely applicable even in this fringe exception.
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>>8369976
Either I construed Marx's labor theory in a fundamentally flawed way, or you started tailing off with preferred penis enlargement techniques.
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>>8369989
I'll quote Marx:
>But the value of a commodity represents human labour in the abstract, the expenditure of human labour in general. And just as in society, a general or a banker plays a great part, but mere man, on the other hand, a very shabby part,14 so here with mere human labour. It is the expenditure of simple labour power, i.e., of the labour power which, on an average, apart from any special development, exists in the organism of every ordinary individual. Simple average labour, it is true, varies in character in different countries and at different times, but in a particular society it is given. Skilled labour counts only as simple labour intensified, or rather, as multiplied simple labour, a given quantity of skilled being considered equal to a greater quantity of simple labour. Experience shows that this reduction is constantly being made. A commodity may be the product of the most skilled labour, but its value, by equating it to the product of simple unskilled labour, represents a definite quantity of the latter labour alone.15 The different proportions in which different sorts of labour are reduced to unskilled labour as their standard, are established by a social process that goes on behind the backs of the producers, and, consequently, appear to be fixed by custom. For simplicity’s sake we shall henceforth account every kind of labour to be unskilled, simple labour; by this we do no more than save ourselves the trouble of making the reduction.
That's from Capital V 1 pg.11-12.
More importantly, from pg. 150ish
>In order to modify the human organism, so that it may acquire skill and handiness in a given branch of industry, and become labour-power of a special kind, a special education or training is requisite, and this, on its part, costs an equivalent in commodities of a greater or less amount. This amount varies according to the more or less complicated character of the labour-power. The expenses of this education (excessively small in the case of ordinary labour-power), enter pro tanto into the total value spent in its production.
And more on this, p.g. 179-80:
(cont.)
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What was his endgame?
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>>8369873
destruction of western civilisation
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>>8369873
AIDs and/or a Liberal/Leftie bastardisation of Nietzsche.
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>>8369873
your asshole
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Was Wittgenstein a charlatan?
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No
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Analytic philosophy bro
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>>8369867
obviously not when the proof for his work is in your head
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>It's a classic
Write a story about heartbreak in 6 words.
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Why stop trusting you? This syphilis.
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You loved me. Then you didn't.
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>>8369831
Is there anyone that actually likes the Brown Bunny for real, not just to appear patrician? I love Gallo and have watched Buffalo 66 more times than I can remember but ive watched BB only 2 times and it was really dull, apart from the scene with Chloe
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What does /lit/ honestly think of William Shakespeare?
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>>8369799
he's pretty good but i'm better
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He's one of Marlowe's greatest inventions.
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>>8369799
Overrated.