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>>8371920
Gravity's Rainbow. I wish I were joking.

>>8371920
I can't think of any glorious book that failed because negative paid reviews.

>>8371944
The Recognitions.

I think I'm still tripping on that CHEW-Z you gave me ...

I've never read it but I have read The Politics of Experience and remember absolutely nothing about it except that it seemed like the incoherent ravings of a quack.
It seemed like 1960s "I'm ok you're ok we're all ok we just discovered eastern mysticism" stuff.

The one thing I did agree with was the view of schizophrenia as a human process, but this is apparent to anyone who reflects on it for more than a second and it is never made clear how exactly this conception is supposed to reformulate how we handle and treat the mentally ill.

Also appendaged to the book was Dr. Laing's artless "Birds of Paradise" which really made him sound like a complete lunatic if he hadn't already.

>>8371908
Me too

>>8371918
Well, that is not at all how TDS seemed. It gives an explanation/description of the processes in schizoidism and schizophrenia and emphasises that actually listening to the patient, rather than checking for symptoms and then diagnosing, is the way to treat them. I have to say I agree.

I have heard that his later books are held in lower esteem, but I'm interested in them nevertheless. I'm not interested in any dismissal of them as "lunacy".. that doesn't seem an insightful point of view at all.

>>8371867
I just reached part 5 of C&P. I'm loving it so far.
I plan to read The Idiot before Bros K.

Stoner actually made me feel quite empty at the end. I couldn't help but identify with how he had to endure his life choices that always took a downward turn, even to the end, and still found a strange melancholic joy in it.

>>8371867
After reading a dense and meaningful book I tend to blow off steam with something simpler. Too much of one thing is bad for you.

make sure to ignore every other russian novel like every other dilettante.

>>8371817

arab speakers writin' in arabic
russian speakers writin' in russian
spanish speakers writin' in spanish

all 4 u <3

Goodreads is full of plebs with shit tier taste, it's worse than /r/books

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Because the Brabs are busy in the night clubs giving one another Crabs. Reading books they consider too Drab.

Newfag by my standards. Oldfag by yours.

>>8371813
Not rek'd [ ]
Rek'd [ ]
Tyrannosaurus Rek's [X]

>>8371804
>>8371813
I'm an oldfag by both of your standards.

>inb4 write something zany xD

Fuck off.

Euthyphro -> Apology -> Crito -> Phaedo

Then read Symposium, Parmenides, the Republic ... and others if you so choose.

>>8371821
any specific editions or translations you recommend?

>>8371827
Plato: Complete Works by John M. Cooper

The only edition you'll ever require...

You seem stupid.

>>8371670

100%

>>8371663
>stay fucked

LOL people become continental philosophers because they don't have the logical or mathematical intelligence to be someone like Von Neumann

there isn't any

Well, I am sure that even with great effort he would not be capable of writing greater works than Shakespeare. He would never be capable of sculpting the language in the same sublime intensity.

>>8371442
Every man wants to kill his father and fuck his mother.

>>8371523
Not me, I'd rather kill my mother and fuck my dad.

>>8371442
>why does he hate a useless alcoholic who fucked the entire family chemistry up

not science fiction for sure

>>8371379
new yorker

>>8371389
and fantasy

I realize I take inspiration from Hitler, Castro, Nietzsche, Hesse; guys that flipped the pancake either by work or by the way they lived.

I want to see if I'm wrong, I want to disprove myself. Help me do that.

You are a teenager.

>>8371356
I am not, friend. I know what I'm doing and I've read and lived enough to come to these conclusions. But I do acknowledge that I am young, but even so, I wish to learn more, have all the bases covered, if that's even possible.

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wtf are you doing?

you may have heard that Stephenson's "Cryptonomicon" was like Pynchon's "Gravity's Rainbow".

this is not true, and was written by a moronic reviewer who noted that both books are partly about the second world war, and that they both have equations in the text.

Stephenson will never have a protagonist dress in a plush pig costume and escape from a gang of pissed-off tech sergeants via hot-air balloon.

if you're looking for an interesting author, check out Bruce Sterling. one of his most recent works, "the Caryatids" annoyed the hell out of me because the protagonists were clones of a Serbian warlord and were so full of themselves i wanted to slap them, but it was cool how each grew up in completely different environments.. but were very much the same woman.

>>8371305
Fuck everything about Stephenson.
>guys look at how smart I am in describing this thing I mean just THINK about it isn't it the most ingenious fucking description you've ever read seriously guys nobody can describe this thing the way I just did
>did you know the Makarov holster chambers a round when you draw the gun? lololol it's so cool and I'm never going to fucking mention it again and it has no literary relevance whatsoever but I just wanted you to know I know cool stuff so I told you about it in my story

>>8371301

No, just read books.

I started with Schopenhauer, then Kant, then Plato, then Nietzsche.

In hindsight I would have started with the Greeks, though.

>>8371301
That's one way, but you should definitely read books too. Any of the ones that interest you -- if you really have no clue, starting with the Greeks isn't actually a massive meme. Listening to philosophy-without-gaps could be a good (very) basic overview of anything you need to have pre-knowledge of.

>>8371321
Terrible way to start.

>Only reading the popular memes.

and that order, oh Lord.

>>8371300
If I see any minimalist covers I'm going to kill myself.

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that book just happens to have my favorite painting on it's cover.

Second Foundation is better. The Signal and the Noise is a fun design.

I often hear Dhalgren is as complex as Ulysses and Gravity's Rainbow? is this true

Why doesn't he write sci-fi anymore? Why does he only write icky erotica now?

>>8371284
Because he became a sodomite