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>you can only be as eloquent as the guy who made language
>you can only be as artistic as the guy who invented art

hmm
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>he doesn't even speak Ithkuil
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where can i find these people
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>>9932820
>you can only fight the way you train

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So. Is The Dresden Files a poorly written wish-fulfillment with a Gary Stu main protagonist.
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>>9940700
No. I didn't like it. I didn't like SF. I kept reading. I gave up. I was pressured into giving it yet another shot. I still thought it was poor. It doesn't suck, but it's a mediocre story with underwhelming writing and some terrible characters.

I wouldn't hate reading more of it, but there's way too much cool stuff out there for me to waste time and money reading books I don't really enjoy in the hope that they will get better.

Everyone says Jim finds his footing in book 3. If so, it's a very poor footing indeed.
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>>9940751
It's a shame. I got into this series when I was having some health issues and could only listen to the audiobooks. After the third, they changed the narrator and it wasn't as nice.

The later books are better having read them, though
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fpbp

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Hey /lit/ I want to know: What is your favourite little know book?
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>>9932767

>aCfL
>little known

What the fuck?
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>>9932773
I've never met another person aside from theman who gave me the recommendation, who has ever heard of it.
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>>9932779
This person must be a real new lit user then.

Do women appreciate literary talent on a man? Does it make you more attractive?
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>>9932730

In the same way that any talent makes you more attractive, sure:

Depends on the woman.
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If it can't translate into more money to spend on them, women aren't attracted to it.

women have for the most part very accurately surmised that "literary talent" most often means "makes cappuccino for a living"
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>>9932730
Depends on the woman. For some it gives you a higher social status. For some it means a useles skill that won't earn you shit.

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Where do I find people willing to read hundred of pages of my work for free?

I'm willing to settle for many people who'll each read a couple pages.
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>>9932665
Find a gf who likes lit. It's the only way to get free editing
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>>9932667

>find a gf
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Get 100 people to read one page each

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ITT: Life changing books
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If you're going to make a thread you should at least put effort into elaborating on why you feel the way you do. This isn't /b/, discussion is nice.
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Zen and motorcycle maintenance
Celestene prophecy
Life of pi
Girl with the dragon tattoo
The alchemist

Am I missing any others from this genre? You know, books for people who don't like to read all that much but will annoy other readers with how much they need to read that life changing book of theirs. You know, the only book they read in the past five years.

Where can I get a physical copy of this?
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A quick search shows basically any of the normal online book selling places

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I'm looking for material centered around (applied) crowd psychology, eg use of divide and conquer via spurring people to divide into groups, then drip feeding stimuli that biases their intra-relations, and thus, over time, their relations with other macro groups, and therefore the overall flux and drift of an otherwise large scale, complex system.

Humans are simply signal transducers and processors, and the means to think certain thoughts, and develop certain behaviors, could be almost entirely directed by a system with broad enough I/O to form accurate models. I would like to expand what I've already figured about how this can, does, and will work. Mankind seems wired to create a God for our godless world, no doubt under the delusion of benefit for its creator.
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>>9932605
Probably not exactly what you're looking for, but it's hard to place what you're talking about. It's basically applied philosophy, deriving it's theoretical foundations from Heidegger and Maturana. Although it focuses on design instead of crowd psychology, I think it's basic ideas might be useful to you for understanding how people's understanding of what they can do narrows or expands on input from the environment.

Here's a quote:

11.3 Organizations as networks of
commitments
In asking "What do managers do?" we must look at what goes on in an
organization as a whole. In Part I we saw that a certain kind of 'recurrence,'
or repetitive pattern of actions, pervades our life as patterns of breakdown
repeat themselves. An organization attempts to exploit this by division of
labor, in order to be ready to deal with a breakdown as something already
known.
Varying our simple car example, imagine that it is a delivery truck,
not a personal car. In this case the company has a standard procedure for
repair, so that the resolution of the situation is predetermined: take it into
the company garage and get a temporary replacement. Other patterns of
action in the organization are designed to anticipate rather than cope with
breakdown—in this case, obviously, the preventive maintenance done to
the trucks on a regular basis.
The concepts of breakdown and recurrence apply equally when we look
beyond those areas like vehicle maintenance where they are superficially
obvious, Breakdowns are not just situations of trouble, but are how
concerns appear to each member of the organization. Many of them are
already anticipated in the form of work specialization: standard forms to
be filled out, rules for credit, policies about the levels of inventories, and
so forth. To be in business is to know how to deal with breakdowns, and
to be pre-oriented in anticipation of them,.
The taken-for-granted recurrence in an organization includes, for
example, the definitions of what products and services are to be offered and
to whom, as well as what kinds of requests will be considered. The
rigidity implied by this recurrence is necessary, but it also brings a danger, an
inertia or bias, with a field of possibilities that tends to be narrow and
closed. This rigidity is often apparent in support activities, such as
maintenance and data processing. The development of means to achieve them11.3, ORGANIZATIONS AS NETWORKS OF COMMITMENTS 151
may come to hide the purposes they were intended to serve The
blindness can take on immense proportions when the survival of an organization
is assured by some external declaration, as with public bureaucracies or
armies in peacetime, It becomes attached to programs and projects,
attending to recurrent requests, with little sensitivity to the consequences
and implications of its activity or to the declared commitments of the
organization.
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>>9932670
I'll look into it. Thanks.
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>>9932605
Unironically? Culture and Critique

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What are some /lit/ essential reading companions?
So far I have:
>Roget's Thesaurus
>Oxford English Dictionary
>A book on trees
>A book on birds

I'm seeking books that will expand my future reading and rereading experiences in this vein.
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why this

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Which of Nassim Nicholas Taleb's books are essential must-reads?
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>>9932473
He has his niche. If his concerns approximate your own then all. Black Swan is his most literary, however.
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Black Swan and Antifragile. Anti is his best work IMO. Black Swan is still good.
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His Twitter. Don't bother with the books.

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I was wondering if there was any philosopher who seriously took on the plight of people who identify as incels? They seem to have a whole theory built on their plight called the "black pill". I don't subscribe to their ideas, per say, but I always find it interesting how vehemently they defend their ideology; as if, the ideology has a life of its own. I wonder what Nick Land would have to say about "incels" and the whole black pill idea.
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>>9932448

Okay, I'll bite. So based on a quick reading of these "involuntary celibate" people they seem like they have repressed feelings of anger towards women, so instead of philosophy they should probably turn to psychology. Start with Freud and move on
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>>9932506
perhaps they would benefit from a general skim of Robert Anton Wilson's work.. realise they're primates, and that not everyone gets a girlfriend, they're nothing special, and getting angry over it is pointless.

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You're going to die one day

>how does this make you feel?
>how often do you really think about this?
>is this something we should confront or ignore?
>how come you haven't killed yourself already?

what literature confronts this reality?
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The Bible
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>>9940548
i don't believe in fairy tales
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>kinda scared but more dead of the unknown than actually dying
>every couple days
>how do you confront or ignore death? nothing you can do can stop it or delay it and how you feel about it is irrelevant
>if this is all I have forever, why would I end it early?

Read some Camus

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I'm in the process of Starting with the Greeks™ and I thought I'd take a break to read a novel.

This is pretty good. It's a bit strange how the story is told so disjointedly, but enjoyable all the same. The honor and valor he tries to portray the Spartans as having I think comes through very well. Can't decide if his Homeric metaphors are clever or pretentious.

Opinions, /lit/? Any recommendations for more Greek/Roman historical fiction?
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>>9932418
Memories of hadrian
latro in the mist

the best, desu
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>>9932418
I remember randomly picking this up when I was 12 or so and getting put off by all the rape and deformed slave beatings. I vividly remember it all because of how shocking it was

I plan to read it again soon, the nostalgia factor will be lovely
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Mary Renault's Greek historical fiction is just as good as having been there and is beautiful.

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what about Stirner that makes him so popular on /lit/?
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>>9940148
he was initially a forced meme
he's a good writer for a philosopher (or he reads that way in translation)
he pissed marx off
he's political but not left or right; rather above so that appeals to people here that find a lot of what passes for politics retarded
he's fairly obscure
he only wrote one book so you can know him easily
he was drawn in caricature by engels so we have a historically-derived meme all ready to go
these are all the reasons i can think of now
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One of the easiest philosophers to think you understand without having to read anything by him
ie spook posting
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How does anything become popular? A lot of people know about the meme, that is what makes something popular, that is having a lot of people know about the meme.

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Best author coming through.
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manlets and gooks get off of my board
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>>9932341
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoHGTzqJTM0
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>>9932341
Best football player of /lit/ also.

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