You're going to die one day >how does this make you

The Bible

>>9940548
i don't believe in fairy tales

>kinda scared but more dead of the unknown than actually dying
>every couple days
>how do you confront or ignore death? nothing you can do can stop it or delay it and how you feel about it is irrelevant
>if this is all I have forever, why would I end it early?

Read some Camus

Nothing specific I'm just terrified that I'll regret my time before I die if I reach old age
a hundreds of times from 9-14, rarely if ever afterwards
Ignore
Because I believe in God and subscribe to the ontological argument. I also believe that life having a meaning is a part of God being perfect.

>>9940554
That's irrelevant.

>You're going to die one day
Philosopher's Stone

>what literature confronts this reality?
Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone

It doesn't scare me.
Not often.
Confront it.
Why the rush to death?

It's difficult to fear death when you understand that any kind of afterlife is likely outside of our comprehension.

>>9940547
>You're going to die one day
No. We will be the first generation that will live forever, technology! I'm not gonna die, I refuse.

>>9940547
>what literature

You should have a basic notion of philosophy. Existentialism, rings a bell? Read a stupid wiki article. What's this: absurdism, existential nihilism - it looks more like what we're looking for. Man, these pages have everything! Concepts, critiques, authors, related books and these have their own pages as well!

Bang, you just started reaching out for information like an almost grown-up person.

Instead of asking on a Taiwanese rock trading forum.

>>9940547
Either I won't be around to experience being dead or there's an afterlife. Either way isn't too scary, especially because the first option is literally a paradox.

>>9940547

I'll live forever until proven otherwise. No need to think about it.

Clamber with a heart of steel
up on the overturned keel.
Where cold is the ocean's spray
and your death is on its way.
All who've lived have had their pay
but each must die some day!

>really really scared
>used to be more often but it's a monthly occurrence or around about there
>I go back and forth because you can't really confront it but you also shouldn't ignore it
>intensely frightening of the uncertainty of the other side

>>9940547
It makes me feel alive
Often enough
Neither, it is something you should be aware of, but it's not going to go away if ignored or confronted, it's inevitable, live with it.
Because it will happen on its own accord sooner or later, why kill myself?

>>9940619
philosophy will not make your life better, trust me, OP

>>9940554
>t. 16 year old

>how does this make you feel?
Sometimes it makes me feel helpless mostly it is what it is.
>how often do you really think about this?
Not very.
>is this something we should confront or ignore?
What's there to confront?
>how come you haven't killed yourself already?
Don't wanna.

Okay, neither good nor bad.
Often enough that I can appreciate small and fleeting things
We should confront it to be at peace with it
Why should I? I am living fairly comfortably, and for all I know after death we could reincarnate, which would effectively do nothing on my current state of being.

>>9940701
Define better

>>9940547
Women are unable to appreciate literature. All they can appreciate is the aesthetic, clearly proven by your picture, she does not care about much except that camera. I take back what I said about the aesthetic ,they only care about what men think their aesthetic is, see I was almost fooled by it too. She probably isn't even myopic and I bet her IQ is sub 120.

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>>9940579

If you live correctly you will be ready for death as the granted rest after a life full of deeds.

>>9940579
If there was a God humans wouldn't know his nature. The Ontological Argument is crap

Nothing depresses me more than death. I basically use drugs to keep distracting myself from the pitch black void that is life. There's no objective meaning, and even if there were I wouldn't be able to verify it. I used to only smoke, now I drink and do cough syrup, soon im.sure I'll graduate to amphetamines and then probably meth or heroin

>>9940750
I know this sounds angsty and all, I just cannot cope with my reality right now

>>9940547
>wish I'd have died earlier in my life. The only death I truly fear is a violent one, wouldn't mind getting some disease and slowly withering away desu.
>that's up to the individual. I personally feel like you shouldn't really confront it or ignore it, just accept it. It's a part of life like everything else.
>because I'm a pussy and mostly cause of my family. I feel like it'd be a dick move to off myself after they've spent so much time and effort to put a roof over my head and keep me alive for this long. If I didn't have to worry about how they'd react then I probably would've hiked up some mountain and quietly killed myself. That's partially why the concept of a deadly disease is so appealing to me. It would take away the responsibility from my hands and it would allow them to slowly accept it as an eventuality instead of having to deal with the shock and trauma of a suicide or more violent death.

>>9940750
you sound like you're just depressed, or that some other shit is going on in your life. Often people blame their misery on philosophical problems, when it really happens to be a case of something less profound. I'm not saying "just b urself and get laid, bro," because clearly fear of death is a legitimate problem, but those who are able to capture meaning, beauty and love in their life often do not bother themselves, or feel the need to bother themselves, of the philosophical justification for the objectivity of this meaning. I suggest finding friends and a passion that you love -- only this sensation can make you feel as if life was worth it, that it was enough, and that you will be willing to let it go when the time comes.

>>9940579
The ontological argument is absurd. Just because you can imagine something, doesn't mean it exists in reality. I can imagine lizard people control the world's government from its hollow core, but that doesn't mean all that and more must then exist.

>it makes me more anxious then it should, already tryed to kill myself more then one time when was younger, I just didnt had sucesso because I of fear of dying, so I stopped half-way on the acts.
>i dont realy have a number of days, but sometimes, specialy when I am in a bad modo (and taking into acount the fact that lately my life has been bad modo...)
>not sure, but probably confront, because death is literaly the END LINE sign and with tech of today, we may as well soon find a way for imortality
>because I was a fucking coward, still am and because now I have people who would be bad if I died. I just most the right to die some time ago.

I dont know one book about this, but extensive reading and times of self-reflection help a little for you to accept the inevitable. The hard part of knowing that God is dead is that there is no station after the END LINE
Tho sometimes I give myself the right to hope for something.

>>9940807
I hate my auto-correc so much.
Stop changing it into portuguese you piece of shit.
Is mood* not modo

>>9940547
>Relieved
>Every other day
>Confront
>Willpower

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>>9940750
What this guy said. >>9940768

Some of that is narcissism disguised as depth (pro tip; no one cares about the whole 'woe is me bullshit).

You need some purpose buddy. Pick something, anything, pick a goal with a medium term goal (~5years) and work towards that. Careerwise, personal growth, whatever, something ambitious, something stupid or pointless.

If you fail whatever, the worst that will happen is you kill yourself at the end. (Once you realise this the only two results are suicide or living life) Aim for something and you probably find a reason along the way. Thats what happened to me and yeah, I found something. Go for it son.

>>9940768
I've tried that. I've been dating this girl for almost a year now and I'm convinced if I ever marry someone it's going to be her. I've tried to find a passion. I used to care so much about my high school Latin program, but I was a slacker in my other classes and now the college I'm going to doesn't even have any Latin classes. I am so deeply suspicious of other people and their intentions that I barely have any ability to form connections with other people. The only reason I can even say this now is I'm too fucked up on dxm to give a shit (or , more realistically, I can use that as an excuse to justify this to myself when I feel I'm being irrational ) . I am depressed and I have no way out it seems. I know this is pretty much a blog post at this point, I'm more just vomiting words than I am trying to be coherent

>>9940833
Yeah I know I'm a narcissist and even though I'm pretty smart I know I'm not smart enough to live up to what I want from myself. I don't have the willpower or the creativity. I give it a year before I off myself, right now all.that's stopping me is the promise I made to my girlfriend that I wouldn't do.it without talking to her first

>>9940840
>>9940845
The maddening thing is, I know all the steps I could take to succeed and prosper. I just don't have the willpower to follow through on any of it. I am a pseud, and I loathe that about myself, but I've spent so much of my life building that image up that it's too late to.do anything else.

>>9940547
I don't really mind. Being dead isn't even bad, it's just less good. I don't want to die, but sometimes I feel like I'd be okay with it if I died soon just because I've lived a good enough life so far and even having any life at all is a wonderful thing. I don't think the finitude of life is inherently depressing unless you've been raised to believe you're going to live forever. And honestly, I think there's something romantic about the idea of having lived a complete life, being an old man on your deathbed and being able to look back on a life well lived and know that that's it, getting some closure on existence.

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>>9940852
>>9940845

You sound like you are 19. Frankly grow up. You aren't special until you manifest something into actuality.

Go to gym. Eat well. Wake up early every day. The shit going on in your head is as physical as it is mental. Your body and mind are one and the same.

Those are your first steps.

>>9940894
I know that's what I should be doing but I can't seem to muster the willpower to do it

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>>9940897
Well shit. If you are looking for some magical moment to change your life for the better to inspire you it will not be found on an Estonian tapestry weaving forum. Fine, get off your computer and go for a 30min walk around your neighborhood everyday. Fuck me. I can't help those that don't want to help themselves.

>Either I won't be around to experience being dead or there's an afterlife. Either way isn't too scary, especially because the first option is literally a paradox.

How did it became a paradox?

I'm not afraid of death but I am afraid of dying.

>>9940547
If death is really a state of not feeling anything, I see no reason to be afraid of it

But I'm scared of the possibility that some consciousness after death exists. Like a never-ending haze or something

Nothing cheers me up more than the thought of death, it's like this door that is always present to me and no matter how harsh things get I always have the choice to open it and leave this room called life, not that I actually consider doing it but just the fact that death exists makes life infinitely less miserable

My own death does not move me but I'm pretty anxious about old age.

>>9940547
>Really looking forward to it
>Constantly thinking about killing myself so i guess constantly?
>Confront
>I have tried in the past, i am quite committed to the cause

>>9940789
They'd have to be perfect lizard people for the analogy to work, but even then lizards wouldn't work because we already have the idea of lizards

>>9941104
>I am quite committed to the cause
>isn't dead yet
I call bullshit

>>9940789
>Just because you can imagine something, doesn't mean it exists in reality.

Bud... maybe just start with Kant's criticism of the argument next time.

Doesn't bother me at all.
Never.
Neither.
Never got depressed enough, no guns.

I believe I'll never die.
Except the random days where I wish to die.
Nietzsche, Shakespeare, Beethoven...
They live forever.

What I am afraid of is not dying but having wasted my life with things I don't enjoy.

Also, on the other hand, being one of the last people to die because I rather smoked and hedonisted instead of preserving my body and working on life-extension technology.

Quite the conundrum.

>>9940547
>Takes off pressure from the rat race or anything else that I used to be very stressed about
>Every day at least. Mostly from a big picture existential perspective
>confront, absolutely. I used to ignore it when it made me feel stressed but i had this constant stress looming around, so I confronted it
>I used to think about suicide but I came to the realization that if I dislike my current life so much i'm willing to change 100% of it. I get there are certain situations where one is in constant pain from some accident/injury and death is more pleasant, but for 99% of the people who I see being suicidal, I'd recommend just devoting the rest of your life to changing it completely, it's very empowering. A lot of the time you're too concerned with other peoples' opinions to change, or you don't have the resources, but we live in a world today where if you want to you can become very tunnel visioned by the things you care about and tell everyone else to suck your dick

Key stoic texts like Meditations by Marcus Aurelius and Letters From a Stoic by Seneca help. And In Search of Lost Time by Marcel Proust made me appreciate just ever existing in the first place, being proud just to have been a part in this universe.

More afraid of the process than the actual concept desu.

>>9940547
death is the next best thing after life
about once every few months
loaded question
I don't want to

>>9940750
grow up, kiddo.

>>9940750
>There's no objective meaning
>What is survival and reproduction
Fucking kids these days.

>>9940547
>being afraid of death

Think about it this way: what activity could you do for 1000 years and not get bored? Not to mention forever.

And if you're still not convinced: would you still be the same person after 1000 years? Consider that you most likely barely remember what you were doing 20 years ago.

Will Theists ever be able to produce an argument that does not refer to the other persons alleged young age or a certain piece of headgear?

Imagine the Bible being a two page book full of "lol u fedora or what why u ask stupid questions lmao just believe, kiddo".

I'm going to die one day...

Guess what, op?

Your parents had sex. Oh golly!

Pretty much every adult you know has masterbated. Oh my!

BIG news. Water is wet! Whoa. Deep thoughts with op. How do you deal?

>>9941387
>having any kind of deep thought about the meaning of life is automatically edgy
Wew, lad. You're such an adult, so grown up. No more childish thoughts at all anymore, very manly.

You might be surprised, but most intelligent people are still curios about the world, despite no longer being 16.

>>9941461
Being curious about the world and waxing pseudo intellectually are two entirely different things.

>>9941383
You're the guy from the other thread, right? You don't seem to be able to grasp the concept of a religious person that pursues faith while simultaneously being aware of its irrationality. also, you argue like a 16 year old /r/atheism subscriber. you're only here to try to feel superior to your own mental conception of a "Theist."
Maybe you're not young. You have asperger's for sure though, right? I heard autistic people have trouble understanding non-concrete ideas like faith.

>>9941546
>responding to an accusation of ad hominem with multiple ad hominem arguments
What if I'm the ugliest person on this planet and I shove a big black dildo up my arse every day? Do you think this changes the validity of an argument?

>faith while simultaneously being aware of its irrationality
So you believe in what you want to believe because you like it and not because you think it is a truth?

Well, you basically admited that you don't really believe in your religion and only follow it because you like it. So I shouldn't be surprised that your best defense of it is "REDIT REDIT DEDIT".
But if you really believe in things despite them being illogical then there is nothing one could argue, everything can be true if you don't care about logic.

>>9941592
>muh scientific truth
Scientific truth and logic created nuclear weapons faggot. Doesn't mean that creating them was the right thing to do.

>>9940547
>how does this make you feel?
It doesn't really make me feel anything in particular.
>how often do you really think about this?
Sometimes, idly. No drama. I've been ill for the past three years, not mortally by any means, but illness just makes it more unavoidable that yes, one day my body will give up the ghost.
>is this something we should confront or ignore?
This meaning what? What point is there to wallow on the fact that one part of life is dying?
>how come you haven't killed yourself already?
Why do I need to kill myself when I'm going to die eventually anyway? I'd only kill myself to avoid being an Alzheimer's patient at the mercy of others in some nursing home, but who knows, maybe one's perception changes when the brain is already going down the drain.
>what literature confronts this reality?
What is there to confront, you angsty teenage mind?

>>9941592
>So you believe in what you want to believe because you like it and not because you think it is a truth?

hmm "thou shall not kill", well it's not scientifically true so it's not true that killing people is bad.

>>9941605
Judeo-christianity is not the answer though

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>>9940705
>>9940732

>>9941605
Scientific truth and logic have also created medicine, transportation, the medium which you're using right now to communicate. You don't seem to have a problem with those.

>>9941638
Thank you for that image.

>>9941655
>implying these are good things

>>9941605
>>9941655
Since when is truth (outside of religion) determined how we like the consequences?

>>9941660
Then go die of wet ass in the woods and most of all stop using evil devilish imageboards.

>>9940547
>how does this make you feel?
Mostly terrible, but sometimes the utter impotence in the face nothingness forces me into a 'nothing matters anyway' calmness comparable to the feeling of insignificance if you think about your place in the universe.
>how often do you really think about this?
Every day, although with varying degrees of sincerity.
>is this something we should confront or ignore?
You're probably happier if you ignore it, but truth doesn't care about it, nor should it. Also the whole thing with the abyss. Once you know you can't go back.
Besides I really think we should oppose death and death cults and euphemisms and everyhing that presents death in any way that doesn't acknowledge its complete terror.
>how come you haven't killed yourself already?
I'm quite fond of life even with the great nullifier staining it.
Sometimes I do think about it without any real conviction. Fear and expectations can be worse than the thing itself.

>how does this make you feel?
A certain sense of urgency. Like I'm wasting my life on here when I should be doing something more fulfilling while I can.
>how often do you really think about this?
Not particularly often.
>is this something we should confront or ignore?
I think it's something we should confront, dying is important I suppose.
>how come you haven't killed yourself already?
Because I'm having a good time.

>what literature confronts this reality?
Camus sounds like what you're looking for.

>>9941361
>would you still be the same person after 1000 years? Consider that you most likely barely remember what you were doing 20 years ago.

If that's the case, why do you think this is a problem?
>what activity could you do for 1000 years and not get bored?

>>9940701
It will.
But it can also make it worse if you don't start with the Greeks.

>>9941666
>hurr people died of cutting their finger back in the days
Maybe if you wouldn't have such inferior genes (due to modern medicine) you wouldn't die out in the real world.

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>>9941672
>the real world

>>9940547
It's not a very thought provoking realization

>you're going to finish the singleplayer one day/servers go offline one day

So what

Play the game while you can you idiot

>>9941677
Good argument

>>9940547
20th century philosophy is for low iq cucks

>>9941670
There can't be talk of survival without continuity of the self. If tommorow you'll lose all your memories you're still going to regard that as dying, right?

>>9940547
Death is fine. Life would be less precious if it went on forever.

I don't think about it much anymore but did when I was a kid.

You have to confront it before you can ignore it.

Why would I kms? Life is pretty wild and theres a lot of cool stuff to do.

>>9941735
>Life would be less precious if it went on forever.
Would it?

>>9940547
>You're going to die one day
Prove it.

>>9941610
Yes, killing is not inherently bad. Many American soldiers fought in wars and killed. According to the bible, they all go to hell.
Turns out the world is not so simple that you can have 10 laws and everything is fine and settled forever.

Beyond me how anyone could take moral absolutism as a truth, there is no simple wrong and right, it all depends on what you want.

>how does this make you feel?
Empty. Cold. But kind of calm.
>how often do you really think about this?
Pretty much every time I close my eyes or put head to pillow
>is this something we should confront or ignore?
I think we should ignore it. I mean, if you're careful, you should be able to lead a full life without this constantly in the back of your mind.
>how come you haven't killed yourself already?
As cliche as it sounds, because someone asked me to care about whether I I live or die (I didn't before). So now, I'm just living.

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>>9940547
>how does this make you feel?
My temporal existence will end and I will again be wholly in the infinite goodness that is God. I will lay my burden down.

>how often do you really think about this?
Every day.

>is this something we should confront or ignore?
To each according to his character. I daresay the educated man has no choice but to confront a fact.

>how come you haven't killed yourself already?
Life on Earth is so short already, why would I want to cut it shorter? There's things to do, anyway.


>what literature confronts this reality?
The Bible
>>"i don't believe in fairy tales"
Then read Plato & co. The New Testament (ie that thing the Church is built from) is mostly a rehash of their theology. Just stop being a whiny baby. Be a man.

>>9940547
>how does this make you feel?

i used to experience extreme onsets of dread about the thought. Now they're toned way down. Makes me think instead of making me want to curl up and die


>how often do you really think about this?
once or twice a month ill have an episode of dread

>is this something we should confront or ignore?
confront. ignoring it makes it worse

>how come you haven't killed yourself already?
cheesy, but life is too grand and amazing to end it prematurely. theres so much to experience and do, and so many people to form relationships with.

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>>9941638
>unironically calls the bible 'fairy tales'
>thinks his argument has any credibility

>>9940547
Her hairline looks bad

>>9941735
>Death is fine. Life would be less precious if it went on forever.
Bah. You are despicable.

http://gnosis.org/library/hermet.htm#CH

>>9940554
He answered your question correctly. Whether you LIKE what the book's approach is or not is irrelevant.

Personally, just like everything else in life, I'll face it when I get there. Sure, it would suck if I was killed 'ahead of my time', but what are you gonna do about it?
It's sort of an omnipresent thought for me, more like breathing than any sort of active thing. I'm alive, which means at any time all that can be taken away.
I don't care whether you confront it or not. It's not like I face down a gun every day or something. It's like an examination or end of week to me, something I know is going to happen sooner or later- but it's not here yet.
I haven't killed myself because I don't see why I should. If I'm sure to die, I'll die eventually. There's no need to run into Death's arms. And even if the world after is better, I can enjoy this life while it lasts.
If there's nothing beyond, I might fear nonexistence, but only on a primal level, like I fear snakes. Facing the great cold is no easy feat for any animal, with a soul or not.

>You're going to die one day
that's irrelevant. literally a non-issue. a hundred billion people have died before you and will die after you. it's just a return to the Absolute.

>>9941101
You fell for the stoic meme
>>9942116
Nice job taking away personal experience and feelings for the sake of rationalizing death

The Death of Ivan Ilyich by Leo Tolstoy

>>9940852
>I've spent so much of my life building that image up that it's too late to.do anything else
this is the worst part.
its the expectations you've set for yourself that stop you from acting
you know the perfectionist meme; you're so afraid of failure that you'll never try in the first place

give up your expectations and go with the flow duder
I'll say the inner game of tennis is a book that should help sort you out

>>9940894
neat picture, mind if i have it?

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>>9941101
i think hunter s thompson rolled with the same philosophy
here i just found a quote
“I would feel real trapped in this life if I didn't know I could commit suicide at any time.”

>>9942119
>Nice job taking away personal experience and feelings for the sake of rationalizing death
Should i be trembling with fear then?

>>9941101
>>9942193
I would agree. Recently saw a .webm of some guy falling onto a glowing hot ball of metal with his face. Can you imagine the pain? I feel sick just thinking about it.
I'm more afraid of doctors keeping me alive after a bad accident like that than I'm afraid of death.
To me, death is like a good nights sleep, an escape from all my problems.

>>9942197
get a load of this macho man
he shows no emotion in the face of anything and doesnt afraid of nothing

lifeless retard you can't be worried about death because you're already dead

>>9941101
Same anon, people always mistake this for being suicidal when it couldn't be far from it

>>9942232
T. Psued

>>9942197
No but you shouldn't disassociate yourself from death and turn it into some statistic just because other people experience it, you're you, not other people, what should count is your perception of it not what the general consensus of it is, unlike other activities you do in your day, only you will be experiencing your death, it's not something you can share with others.
I'm just saying you shouldn't be indifferent to the most important aspect of your life, only once you overcome the anxiety of death you're free to become your authentic self

>>9940547
>how does this make you feel?
I'm fine with it.
>how often do you really think about this?
Maybe once or twice a month? More if other people bring it up.
>is this something we should confront or ignore?
Confront, accept, then ignore.
>>how come you haven't killed yourself already?
Meh, don't want to. Too much to do.

As for literature, the Bible and stuff on eternal recurrence. Those two really helped when I needed it most.

>>9940547
Girls who are pretty get attention, and they can fuck many guys, even handsome guys among them. Fucking makes you think about pleasure momentarily and makes you forget about death.

Males who are rich and extrovert get the same thing to some extent.

The others do kill themselves.

>>9940840
Drugs are not going to make any of this any better. You'll lose all initiative and sense of purpose when you're sober and get even more stuck. Talk to the people you love about it, start exercising and read some more L A T I N.

>>9940547
>You're going to die one day
>>how does this make you feel?
It is a natural part of life, nothing to feel about it.
>>how often do you really think about this?
I don't think about the inevitable, which wont come any time soon.
>>is this something we should confront or ignore?
If by confront you mean spend your entire life searching for immortality then go ahead. It's useless to struggle.
>>how come you haven't killed yourself already?
Because death scares my natural survival instincts.
>what literature confronts this reality?
Albert Camus I guess.

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I work with people with late-stage alzheimer, they often only have half a year left.
I work with a group of 6, getting a new one a week after one of them dies every time.

A lot of them decide for themselves that they want to wear a tag around their neck that says I can't save them when something happens that will end their life, and I have to just let them die on the spot that they are dying on, and then clean up and get them shipped out.

I've seen it happen so often that it barely has the same effect on me anymore. All I know is that they die most comfortably when I hold them in their last minutes until they stop breathing, it's the only thing that lets them die in comfort.

Often the people that don't have anyone to love them and nobody to visit usually pick the tag by the way.

>>9942624
oh papa my papa

>>9940547
I'm sure it has already been said before, but read stoicism. The Stoics thought about death all the time.

>>9940547
>>how does this make you feel?
Mostly hope, a bit of fear.
>>how often do you really think about this?
About once a month.
>>is this something we should confront or ignore?
Confront.
>>how come you haven't killed yourself already?
You don't abandon your post midway through.

>>9940789
wow you win for the absolute most incorrect interpretation of the argument ever

like >>9941191 said, you could at least come back with kant's "existence isn't a predicate"

real more about it before you say it's ridiculous

>>9940547
I like the idea of dying, not for any sort of meme depression.I just like it.

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>killing yourself because you're afraid of dying

makes sense

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>>9940547
"The Blessed Lord said: While speaking learned words, you are mourning for what is not worthy of grief. Those who are wise lament neither for the living nor the dead. Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be. As the embodied soul continually passes, in this body, from boyhood to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at death. The self-realized soul is not bewildered by such a change." (Bhagavad Gita 2.11-2.13)

"Know that which pervades the entire body is indestructible. No one is able to destroy the imperishable soul. Only the material body of the indestructible, immeasurable and eternal living entity is subject to destruction; therefore, fight, O descendant of Bharata." (2.17-2.18)

Your actual self, the soul, never perishes, only the material body the soul inhabits does. Material is born and as such it it subject to death. The soul is not born nor does it die, it is eternal. I recommend reading the Gita.

>>9942881
im not gonna read your gita when the soul and reincarnation assumptions are so asinine

>>9942881
It's our cell's changing as we grow up, not our soul.

>>9942913
Any layman can understand that the material body minus consciousness is a dead body, and this consciousness cannot be revived in the body by any means of material administration. Therefore, consciousness is not due to any amount of material combination, but to the spirit soul.

>>9942915
The material body is subject to change, the soul is not

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>>9942932
>any laymen can understand consciousness
you're so fucking stupid holy shit

>>9941348
>being the equivalent of a monkey
Wouldn't be so bad without the higher intellectual capabilities.

>>9941787
A bunch of American faggots who kill children on mass for ZOG are already in hell. I bet if you could go back in time you would kill hitler right? Fuck off with your autistic utilitarianism. How does it feel to be a lifeless robot?

>>9941655
I dont. What's your point retard?

>>9942985
what is the difficulty?

>>9942990
>W-We are above nature dude
You're still a living creature and this is your objective meaning and goal. Your intellectual capabilities are irrelevant.

Death is literally the only comforting idea I have left in my life

If I didn't know I was going to die I'd have killed myself

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>>9940547
nothing anyone has ever done or will do will ever really matter in comparison to the vastness of time and space. The only thing that makes anything worth anything is the value decide it has. So go out and make something out of nothing and become a some one for no one instead just of some one else's no one.

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>>9940547

It scares me. I'm really enjoying my time here. Even though I have a relatively shitty life right now, I still think consciousness is such a weird and absurd miracle. I think everything is beautiful, or at worst beautifully interesting, if that makes sense. Sometimes I look at a woman and my brain turns into mush and I start drooling internally and occasionally I'm naive enough to think I can get anywhere with her, but sometimes I luck into things. I love different cultures, but that's pretty cliche. I want to accomplish a lot.

I'm kind of hoping medical breakthroughs will at least allow me to extend my life by like ~50 years without me becoming a wheelchair-bound vegetable, but that's probably wishful thinking. Some old people who've lived good lives are occasionally outspoken about how they've done everything they ever wanted to and are ready to go. I can't imagine getting to that point, maybe I will, but I at least hope that I can have a similarly positive mindset when the time comes.

Come on now, not everyone on here can be self-loathing and misanthropic, right? I know it's the writer's stereotype but I can't be the only one enjoying life over here. I'm in pain all day, I'm watching my mother die every day, I'm balls deep in debt and there's no sign of stopping, and my future is uncertain at best. I'm usually not one to "take it easy" or "let things play out," but I'll be damned if I'm not gonna enjoy the privilege consciousness while I'm here.

>how does this make you feel?
Worried. I am always asking myself if what I am doing is what I should do.
>how often do you really think about this?
Everyday.
>is this something we should confront or ignore?
You should always ask yourself about it, otherwise you will regret your life later on
>how come you haven't killed yourself already?
Why should I? I will have plenty of time to do nothing when I am dead.

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>>9940547
>how does this make you feel?
Anxious but hopeful. I'll be glad once it happens but I don't want it to happen yet. I want to reach at least 40 or so.
>how often do you really think about this?
Regularly.
>is this something we should confront or ignore?
Confront for sure. I'll take fear of death over lazy depression any day.
>how come you haven't killed yourself already?
Because I'm committed to making the lives of those around me a little bit easier.
>what literature confronts this reality?
The Trouble With Being Born by Emil Cioran, the basic point of which is that no matter how much you learn and reflect, you will never find peace within yourself.

Simone Weil's writing is also great for this. She'll make you realise how completely empty your life really is, and that the only thing that can properly fill that void is God.

>>9940632
this

I think the most important thing about living is understanding that you need to make arrangements for yourself after you are dead.

Death is the completion point of your life. Once you are dead, that's it, it's all over.

But whilst it is over for you in terms of consciousness, it isn't over for your DNA or for your lifeless corpse...

You have to find people you can trust to lay your body to rest in the manner that you want and find people that you trust to look after your DNA.

If you are smart, you will have carried on your legacy, not bought the politics of hating the world and people that third parties use to put you off of life. It is about getting a slice of the future for your legacy and using that legacy to sort out your affairs when you are gone.

My mother asked me to deal with her remains, she wanted cremation and her ashes scattering on the beach. She didn't want a grave site with a marker that would display her name or a bench, she wanted to be left alone in a nice place.

I did as she asked when she passed away, and I made sure that I was clear on what she wanted because, her life was complete when she died.

When I think about when I die, I think that, without a kid, I just go into the void and without helping other people or creating something useful for somebody else, my life would be a waste of time, other than the experiences that I had the privilege of experiencing during my life.

I don't really think killing myself is a correct course of action, I look forward to things and enjoy feeling things so I can't really say death is a good option. Plus, I have the power to learn and grow as an intellect, which I can't do when I am dead.

I see the utility of books as a static adviser, They provide necessary insight in a digestible way, but if you just read books without aiming to learn from the experience of reading, you're just reading to waste time.

If you haven't got what you want out of life, then clearly, you aren't making the effort to go in the right direction. Nobody is going to smash down your door, grab your arm and tell you. THIS, THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE MADE TO DO!

It's all down to you, and if you don't get off your backside and point yourself in a direction and go, you will spend all of your days aimless and getting nowhere and... what you might not realise is, there is no wind that will fill your sails other than your own.

You can spend all of your life aimless until you die suddenly without any warning.

So you had better pick a direction and move to be the best at it.

>>9940554
no one asked you if you believe in fairy tales faggot. You read fiction and extract the wisdom out of that dont you? so treat the bible the same way.


Cunt.

Empty
Every night
Doesn't matter
I don't know

>>9940547
I'm a futurist and believe that people under 30 years of age today will likely live for as long as they wish.

Maybe I'm deluding/lying to myself, but it's pretty comforting.

>>9940547
Omina vanitas

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>>9940547
>Confused
>Almost every day, in some capacity
>Get used to the idea
>Why on Earth would I do a thing like that?

>>9944292
tl;dr

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>>9945362
Omnia

>>9940579
but what about abstraction in thought? you dont have a detailed idea of how god would function

>>9940579
>the ontological argument.
Bruh.