Please explain the appeal.
I tried reading it. The sentences are so short and choppy, I've read fanfiction that was written better.
There doesn't feel to be any takeaway, it's like the Stephen King of fantasy, but without the interesting premises.
Literally, how did this get picked up for a television series, and why would anyone read this?
>>9172974
I think Littlefinger and Varys are genuinely interesting characters, but honestly, yeah, the rest of it's a waste. I'd prefer just one very long novel about those two.
>>9172974
No one faggot? go as r/books they like they shit no one here will defend except some faggy memesters that do it just to shitpost
>stephen king
oh my god you are serious
>>9172974
ASoIaF is unironically better than shit-tier literature like Of Mice and Men and To Kill a Mocking Bird.
If you can't see the appeal you are literally autistic. It's like asking what the appeal of Fifty Shades is -- what do you think it is?
choose my lenten fast, /lit/
Anything other than alcohol
>>9172850
shitposting
>>9172850
Alcohol.
Give up penances and fasts for Lent. If you're truly a dedicated Catholic, this will be a hard thing for you to do because you seek it out and think highly of it. The quality of a Lenten penance can be measured by how difficult it is to keep.
Reminder that Jane Austen is the greatest pleb filter in the Western Canon.
Plebs inevitably, consistently get hung up on the fact that she's a woman who writes about relationships. All they can see is a woman writing about love, and so they dismiss her. They consider female authors automatically worthy of dismissal, and consider relationships between people in ordinary settings as an unworthy subject of literature.
Patricians, on the other hand, are willing to take Austen on her own terms, or at least ignore their objections to her, and are rewarded with the brilliance of her story construction and insights into humanity.
Austen herself wrote a pleb filter called "Pride and Prejudice." This is how she catches all the other plebs, most of them female.
>>9172829
this. Anyone who doesn't see the intentional irony laced through Austen's work is guaranteed to be plebian.
She's sharp-witted, observant, funny, and her sentences are perfect.
I don't care how good you tell me is, I'm not reading any "literary" book by a woman because I don't value their insights. They should stick to children's books and manga.
>read Dune
>love it, recommend it to a friend
>he tells me later that he started reading some Dune books
>he's reading the Brian Herbert ones
>he loves them
>have friend who likes Dune
>being a dune coon
>humans only care about themselves, society is just an extension
But what about love? Humans are an innaccurate apotheosis of survival before they are inheritantly egoist. A human fool can GENUINLY want to altruistically serve their nation. Come at me.
>>9172659
>Humans are an inaccurate apotheosis of survival
What the fuck? Survival doesn't have an "apotheosis." It's based on the interplay between a specific organism and a specific environment. lrn2Darwinism
>A human fool can GENUINELY be deceived into sacrificing their most valuable possession
You're right on that count.
>>9172659
All emotions, and by extension the concepts which spring from them, are merely advanced forms of simpler behaviors.
This is the most likely explanation, although not the most appealing one.
Humans are just smarter animals.
Do any of you write pulp fiction? if so, how lucrative is it and how do you like writing it?
>>9172589
The pulp fiction market died after the Shudder Pulp Panic and World War II paper rationing in the 1940s, then got replaced by comic books, then TV. The surviving markets are so niche they might as well not exist. I'm talking readers measured in the hundreds or low thousands.
There is only a handful of people on the planet now who make any money writing fiction of any kind and they have huge publishing houses pushing their product. Small presses are shut out by the economy of scale and are lucky to pay their authors in contributor copies.
>>9172719
By pulp fiction I mean the cheap amazon indie ebooks, stuff like that
>>9172755
that's not pulp, that's Cesspit Gonzo. HURR DURR "IN THE BUTT" lol
Is human nature inherently egoist?
>>9172501
Yes. As is most anything else in the animal kingdom. Except eusocial creatures, like ants.
/thread
>>9172511
But we are social as well. Communities and cities make living better for the individual.
>>9172520
Not first poster anon. But yeah man, it doesn't matter. It took us millions of years of evolution to achieve a few thousand years of civilization, which in itself in inherently egoist.
Instead of satire about the Victorian Era (Dickens, Thackery), what are some Victorian books which praise their era?
any contemporary romance
There's a reason the only good literature from that time period was mockery of that culture.
>>9172497
ASS
Achieving pleasure through the accomplishment of desire is the main human objective. That is a fact.
So, shouldn't there be knowledges that we ought not to know? Wisdom that will give us nothing, only existential dread. The belief in God saves us from the fear of nonexistence, the void. Still, we choose to suffer with that existential angst instead of simply believing. We do that because we think it's more "rational".
So, isn't ignorance, at least some bits of it, bliss?
>>9172484
>The belief in God saves us from the fear of nonexistence
That fear is based on unfounded assumptions, so you have given no real examples of
>Wisdom that will give us nothing, only existential dread.
>>9172484
>Achieving pleasure through the accomplishment of desire is the main human objective. That is a fact.
Hedonist fuck
Sadhguru said something like that. "You cannot be taught how to be, how to exist, you've known that from birth"
I think the problem comes when you commit yourself to a single outcome over many other outcomes. You're asking for disappointment since life usually disappoints and surprises, so finding the good that's already there in your life is probably good enough.
Remaining logical and practicing your mental state and control over your subconscious is in my opinion superior to any reliance on a god.
If you've studied hypnosis and psychology, you'll realize that your emotional mind literally can't tell the difference between fantasy and reality. There's a lot more control over our mental state that can be gained through training than I think the average populace understands.
Wisdom that gives you existential dread doesn't sound like wisdom to me.
Hey /lit/ my girlfriend gave me this for Valentine's and I was wondering what your thoughts are on it. I wanna know if this'll be an easier read I can do over spring break or need to pre read or any shit.
Why are you doing this?
>>9172460
Making the thread? I am curious is all. I really doubt I need to pre read. I guess I should have said is it worth the read/ it is good.
>>9172449
no preparation needed its not difficult at all.
Read about 8-9 and never bothered to buy the rest for some reason.
Read the first one. Pretty comfy desu. Thanks for the memory anon.
>>9172858
There was something unsettling about its atmosphere tho, books gave me anxiety
>>9172357
Read the first. It was okay.
There was much better out there, IIRC. Although I loved Eragon so what do I know.
What the hell you spooks up to?
>>9172324
shitposting on /lit/
I really enjoy shitposting
Max Stirner is shit
>>9172477
>>9172324
90 percent of the time the stirner spook meme is just a rationalisation for the same faggy establishment marxist nihilist views you get from your standard issue jewish professor. It's about time you grow up embrace the harsh truths of life and realise being a fashy goy is the answer
Has anyone here done Peterson's self-authoring program? Just spent $30 on it, hopefully it's results will be good.
Thanks for the $30.
>>9172260
If it works it'll be worth it. Report back afterwards.
I started the future authoring one when it was free and gave up halfway through, which doesn't bode well for my future I suppose.
In highschool creative writing class they told me to "show not tell" but in many classic novels the author tells and doesn't show, what do?
>>9172229
you are not a classic novelist.
Show not tell means you should draw rather than write.
>>9172229
showing takes way more words. Show the compelling/important stuff. Tell the dumb details that no one wants to wallow in.
For me, it's Hermes Trismegistus.
For me, it's Tampax® Pearl
For me, it's myself.
>>9172194
and what of our Thrice-Great Lord do you speak?