So I was thinking about a Roman history class I had in the past. We touched on different cult practices within the hellenistic religions, one of interest was the cult of dionysus/Bacchus. Little is known about the actual truth to the practices that went on outside speculation.
Does anyone know more more about specific worship and rituals for that and other religious cults such as Aphrodite/venus or Mars/Ares, Juno/Hera, Athena etc? Were certain cults more likely to involve sacrafices than others (ex.Mars vs.hermes)or was at least animal sacrafice always a thing?
>>3039590
Bump
>>3039590
Sounds interesting, bump
>>3039590
Human sacrifice was seen as disgusting thing for romans. Though they did practice it few times. Animal sacrifes were common. Each home had mini shrine for gods.
>book claims divine inspiration
>demonstrates little comprehension of the natural world
Classic
>talks about an miracle-doing omnipotent god that has power on every living thing since the dawn of times
>you would have never heard of it if it wasn't for this book
Bible was 2000 years ahead of its time when it comes to anatomical and astronomical facts
>>3039503
>Expects a religious book with limited pages to talk about the natural world and not the religion.
We tend to assume that historians can say something meaningful about history and that history can help us learn to avoid mistakes
If complexity theory, and additionally recent cognitive science, is to be understood it is unlikely that something meaningful is actually been told by historians
First consider that it is difficult to make conclusions of a complex system by pure thought alone. Second, the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. Third consider that human rationalisation is directed by cognitive biases - which really are better understood as heuristics useful in our former survival
So what is history then? It can best be understood as an entertaining story
The point of using history to 'prevent the mistakes of the past' isn't necessarily to precisely predict future outcomes.
Almost all political philosophy, for example, integrates history and past knowledge extensively. The fact that we recognized we fucked up before doesn't necessarily mean we won't fuck up in a different way (or sometimes even the same way) in the future, but it's completely foolish to disregard the past / its analysis and the vast amounts of knowledge we pass on. Humans as a species are uniquely capable of self awareness and introspection, why would we not also do this at a societal / civilizational level?
Some people think the idea of 'progress' as a historical phenomenon is a meme, but so long as we are regularly preserving the knowledge of the past, passing it on, and iterating on it, that is progress. The worst thing that could happen would be something so cataclysmic that it wipes out the knowledge we as a species have collectively gathered over the many centuries since we found effective systems of passing it on beyond a genetic / instinctive level.
>>3039197
I am glad this post motivated you to write what you wrote. By no means do I want to point history towards the dustbin
Storytelling might be one of those features which makes humans unique, and it helps us inform us and make way of the world
I am reminded how development in technology our science has informed our views of the human mind, such as that period in which we assumed it was like a machine since that was our reference, and now with algorithms we assume it is works like an algorithm, because that is our new reference
While we it might not be possible to use history to predict we could use it as a reference what can happen
I am not claiming that history is not useful, what I am claiming however is that it can strive to be accurate but will never be accurate enough to be considered anything more as a story
That story could still be meaningful, and I am not even claiming that no conclusions at all can be made, just that it isn't always possible to do such a thing, and so that story can certainly inform us and makes us move around as it were
>>3039197
>Humans as a species are uniquely capable of self awareness and introspection, why would we not also do this at a societal / civilizational level?
Here I would like to inform you that cognitive science has shattered this image, perhaps not the self-awareness part but most certainly the introspective part
Tests have been done with people that I am not capable of describing in detail from memory but the conclusion is that people make up stories about their decisions that aren't accurate at all
We are not self-aware of why we make decisions, at least that is what cognitive scientists and neuroscientists claim, they could of course still turn out wrong
Doesn't mean we cannot make meaningful use of information
Who's worse: the "I wish I was born in the 50s" or the "I wish I was born in Rome/middles ages/ Renaissance" kids
Redditors like you who melt down the moment any body looks at any era of the past favorably.
>>3039005
>born in the 50s
But it would be better to be born in the 30s so you can live through the 50s.
>>3039019
>Not being born in the 40s so you don't die in a pointless war
These things are not as reliable as they make it out to be
>peigon wants to take a shit
>peigon poops into aqueduct
>next thing you know, half the population of Rome is drinking peigon shit
>>3038858
It was covered. The water ran in a channel.
The Pont du Gard still has its covering in fact.
>>3038858
>peigon
>>3038858
> drink shit water in lead cups
> go mad an die of cholera as bonus
romans anytime
This was Iran before the Islamic Revolution, which was a tolerant, secular nation that one of the most influential nations in both the middle east and the world. After the Islamic Revolution, its a backwards, radical Islamic theocracy.
well no one liked the shah
>>3038739
i liked him
>>3038710
Sounds like reactionary paradise.
pictured: Kronoberg castle ruins, Sweden
Here's some from my country.
Byzantine Fortress IV-VI centuries in the Balkan Mountains,
>>3039812
Roman Stadium of Philipopolis Ist century AD running almost intact underneath the main pedestrian street.
Can we get a /his/orical clothing thread going on?
/fa/ can join too if they want.
British sailor on shore leave at a music bar in Yokohama.
>>3036879
Isn't that David Bowie?
Any updates from that anon who was planning on recreating Mayan fashion?
I'm becoming quite interested in this war, what can /his/ tell me about it?
Was it very significant or important and how was it viewed at the time?
>>3031985
Very significant in that it was the first time a European power was beaten in a war they didn't start in centuries. It also was heavily watched by foreign observers who came to the conclusion that infantry charges could overwhelm machine guns, which served them not at all well in the next big war.
>>3031985
Basically it showed how retarded Nicholas actually was to be BTFO by a bunch of upstart nips that only industrialized 50 years before.
Despite this, Nicholas thought it was a good idea to go to war with the Germans who were light years ahead of the Japanese.
Not only did he deserve to be shot but his family as well to stamp out that retardation.
Japan should have taken Siberia.
>>3031992
>japan should've taken Siberia
How and why?
Can God create a rock he cannot lift?
>>3030094
Maybe he can't lift the rock in this reality but in another she can.
>>3030094
Omnipotence is a logical impossibility.
Can Allah create an another Allah, with another name, which he cannot kill?
Why is there so much obsession of the Byzantines on /his/? Why are you a Byzaboo? It seems so odd to me especially considering it's an old dead empire that did nothing but just hang on to its lands until it died.
>>3027677
What does the symbol on the eagle's chest mean?
>>3027686
"By Me, you will conquer."
>>3027677
>did nothing but just hang on to its lands until it died.
It shrank and waned over a thousand years despite overwhelming odds. I can't think of another empire that came close to being eradicated on so any occasions before coming back from the brink.
Thoughts on technocracy? Pretty based if you ask me
>>3027563
It's pretty much the "end credits" of civilization.
>>3027574
care to elaborate
>>3027576
nah not really
If Egyptians are levantines, then why do Ancient Greek historians Herodotus and diodorus say they came from Ethiopia?
>>3027257
Good question anon.
Herodotus thought the world looked like pic related. As you can see, Ethiopia isn't even on it.
You may as well ask where Thule or Hyperborea is.
>>3027335
Ethiopia is on it.
Is modern China a national socialist nation?
I made the mistake of asking /pol/ and I guess this is where I will get closest to a serious answer
You're thinking of North Korea
>>3041807
>China is a libertarian nation
lolno
China is a state-managed capitalism with a one-party government who unapologetically censors and controls the information which their citizens are allowed access.
Libertarians would hate China the moment that they are sent to a work camp because the state decided that their video game addiction was so strong that it was polluting the moral fiber of the nation.
Assuming you could only have either language in your life, which would you go for? Latin or Attic Greek?
Neither. Theyre fucking useless. Id rather learn something practical that I can use to communicate with people. What a stupid question. Next.
Latin.
Also Koine Greek.
>>3041691
I did a bit of both in school but if I could choose one to be magically fluent in, it'd be Latin. That way I could join the priesthood pretty easily and have a pretty comfy setup