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Now that the dust has settled, can we all agree that the Vietnam War was [spoiler]unjust[/spoiler]?
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no you fucking commie
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>>40978
yea
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>>40978
>unjust
History is about "is"es not "oughts." Read Hume.

p.s.: The VWP utterly hegemonised justice in French Indochina and the DRVN and RVN with the exception of the revolution in the RVN until 1968 when the VWP destroyed the revolution's capacity for self-defence more out of incompetence (Giap was on the outer and came in too late to cancel the "general uprising" component) than malice.

Fucking yanks. Learn more about Vietnam itself.

You get to go back in time and have sex with one historical figure of your choosing. Who do you pick?

Me, I'd go for Theodora I.
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>>40973
Cleopatra.
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>>40973
I'd masturbate to Theodora, but I wouldn't touch with two condoms on my junk

>>She never succumbed to these transports; for she often went to a supper at which each one paid his share, with ten or more young men, in the full vigour of their age and practised in debauchery, and would pass the whole night with all of them. When they were all exhausted, she would go to their servants, thirty in number, it may be, and fornicate with each one of them; and yet not even so did she quench her lust. Once she went to the house of some great man, and while the guests were drinking pulled up her clothes on the edge of the couch and did not blush to exhibit her wantonness without reserve. Though she received the male in three orifices she nevertheless complained of Nature for not having made the passage of her breasts wider, that she might contrive a new form of coition in that part of her person also.

>>She frequently became pregnant, but as she employed all known remedies without delay, she promptly procured abortion. Often, even on the stage, she stripped before the eyes of all the people, and stood naked in their midst, wearing only a girdle about her private parts and groin; not because she had any modesty about showing that also to the people, but because no one was allowed to go on the stage without a girdle about those parts. In this attitude she would throw herself down on the floor, and lie on her back. Slaves, whose duty it was, would then pour grains of barley upon her girdle, which trained geese would then pick up with their beaks one by one and eat. She did not blush or rise up, but appeared to glory in this performance; for she was not only without shame, but especially fond of encouraging others to be shameless, and often would strip naked in the midst of the actors, and swing herself backwards and forwards, explaining to those who had already enjoyed her and those who had not, the peculiar excellences of that exercise.
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>>40973
>Not Helena of Troy

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>Going to church like a good Catholic like any other day
>Finally get there
>See this

Wat do?
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I'd be pretty pissed off if someone nailed 95 Feces to a church door desu.
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>Catholics

Pay indulgences
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>>40965
lynch the heretic

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Opinion on Africa?
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>>40963
Bring back Rhodesia, Hallie Selassie, Europeans, and/or Carthage
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Somalia BTFO
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>>40963
Worried desu. theres going to be 3 billion people there by the end of the century and chimps, rinos, lions and other animals might face extinction

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from what country are you /his/?
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>>40936
>Greenland is not the flag of Greenland
What?
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Russia. Parents moved to Canada when I was a kid.
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Africa looks beautiful in that pic

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Today is all saint's day.
Whose your favorite saint?
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>>40931
Saint Benedict.

We know the pope will be deified in a hundred years, so it is best to start praying to him now.
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Probably Aquinas as I really like his writings.
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Thomas Aquin. He was analytical and he loved food, what's not to like? Also, I love Dominican habits.

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>Your king didn't create the greatest written language of all time
Sucks to be you guys
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>>40929

>It's so great the masses need a simplified version of it to have any hope of writing for a living
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>>40964
You're thinking of the Chinese, anon.

The man in OP knew Chinese characters were shit.
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>>40964
It's Korean you idjit.

Can any Afro/his/ explain to me where it all went wrong?
Africa had wealthy, organized, and technologically decent empires. I would even argue that Europe only surpassed it around the 1500s or so. So why could the Europeans just march in and do what they wanted?
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Timbulku maniscript were made by north african or /and when Timbuktu was under north african rule.

It's an maghrebian achievment, if it's one.
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>>40400
Pic related.
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>>40360
>Parts of Africa had wealthy, organized, and technologically decent empires. I would even argue that Europe only surpassed them around the 1500s or so
Fixed that for you.

A great deal of Africa simply isn't conducive to the natural spread of civilization.

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I'm going to talk about John Green's crusade video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0zudTQelzI

Right away I'd say Green's target audience has not romantized the Crusades. The view of the Crusaders ie highly polarized, and his target auidence likely does not have a positive view of the Crusaders. Most of his viewers are likely left leaning teenagers who lack any real education in the humanities. In my experience these people think the Crusaders were ruthless savages who indiscrimindetly slaughtered innocent Muslims for their God.

>Pope Urban's main motivation for calling the Crsuades was mending the schism. (Time 1:50)

Pope Urban certainly wanted to expand the sphere of Catholic influence in the middle east, but he didn't see the Crusade as a tool to mend the schism. At the time, Urban was trying to mend tensions with Constantinople, and trying to force Papal authority onto the Byzantines would have destroyed all of his work. In fact, he chose Bishop Adhemar to lead the expedition because Bishop Adhemar was very diplomatic in his correspondance with the Byzantines. Adhemar himself supported the idea of detente between the Catholic church and the Orthodox one. Pope Urban himself loathed the Schism which had taken place a few decades earlier, but in his speeches he called the Orthodox and Catholic peoples brothers. (Source: Thomas Asbridge – The First Crusade pg 92)

The only man who saw the Frist Crusade as a way to end the Great Schism was Bohemond I of Antioch
who proposed the Crusaders . Before leaving on the journey Bohemond was known to preach in French churches, advocating French knights to join him in a war against the Byzantine empire (source: The First Crusaders by Johnathan Riley-Smith, pg 137)
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>>40323

Part 2:
>To the Crusaders they were taking up arms to protect Christ and his Kingdom

I'm surprised he didn't mention the Crusaders also took up arms as a way to ensure their own salvation, as Green just mentioned it minutes before. The Crusaders were mainly noble men, who were well aware their secular duties of war and attaining wealth was in contrast to what Jesus' preached. They were afraid of the after life, and saw the Crusades as a way to earn pennence for their sins. Guibert of Nogent wrote this:

“God has instituted in our time holy wars so that the order of knights might find a new way of gaining salvation. And so they are not forced to abandon secular affairs completely by choosing the monastic life, or any religious profession as used to be the custom, but can attain some measure of God's grace while persuing their own careers.
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>>40330
>The Crusaders were mainly noble men
Mainly led, most were soldiers or the general poor rabble. At least as far as the first crusade goes.
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>>40402
I remember in high school we had to refer to the crusaders as the "pale horde" when giving presentations on this.

ITT: Literally you: the historical figures
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Diogenes is literally us
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Literaly low effort cancerous posts: the thread
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>>40212
Nobody really comes to mind.

Prussia was a mistake
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Agreed
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>>40043
Good thing it fell!
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>""""""""""""""prussian kingdom""""""""""""

Was it good or bad?
Personally, I'm mixed on the African colonization, but the American colonization was definably just Europeans crushing civilizations and tribes for their own benefit.
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>>40023
>good or bad
History doesn't deal with "oughts" it deals with "is"es. "Oughts" is the proper domain of politics. Fuck off back to >>>/pol/
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>>40023
What would Europe be if not for colonization of the Americas? It'd continue to batter itself into poverty and strife, as well as keep an entire collection of cultures isolated from the exchange of ideas (and a few diseases that killed hundreds of thousands) that we value today.

I think colonization was what Europe needed. I'm sorry for the NAs, but nations do what they gotta do to survive. They shouldn't be begrudged it.
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Generally good for some, bad for most at the time. But good for people today, due to increased globalization

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This guy completely BTFO the "Dark Enlightenment" before it was even a thing
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Then chumpsky BTFO of him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wfNl2L0Gf8
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>>39942
>>>/lit/

Foucalt was only ever loosely connected to actual historical scholarship. Most of it was historical philosophy AKA sparse on actual empirical evidence and chock full of opinions and assumptions.
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>>39991
arguable, and fyi chomsky's ideas are completely counter to the dark enlightenment as well

>>40011
>history and humanities
>humanities

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I know most people probably consider it a meme, but the Roman Empire is just the absolute fucking tops.

Can we have a Roman thread?

Today's Discussion:
>Why was Hannibal the most incompetent general Rome ever fought?
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>>39780
>Today's Discussion:
>>Why was Hannibal the most incompetent general Rome ever fought?
if you think this is true you are a fucking retard.
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>>39780
Not half as incompetent as Boadicea.
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>>39780
>Hannibal
>incompetent

Back to /pol/ retard

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NEVER FORGET TO
>START WITH THE SUMERIANS

SUMER THREAD
POST SUMER
READ SUMER
WRITE SUMER
WATCH SUMER

ALL THINGS SUMER AND SUMER RELATED ARE TO BE POSTED IN THIS THREAD, THE SUMER THREAD

>INFORMATION ON THE SUMERIAN LANGUAGE
https://mega.nz/#F!D1BxgbRC
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>>39718
What's the password?
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I didn't do my Akkadian translation homework for tomorrow. Fuck you for reminding me.
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>>39718
Do you think the Sumerians had memes? There's examples of wit from Greeks, Romans, and a bit from Babylonians and Carthaginians. There any Sumerians with a sense of humor?

Also, is there a difference between Sumer and Sumeria?

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