Were the Mongols the most overpowered people in history?
Also Mongols thread.
Mongol OPness was matched by the stupidity of their enemies. Genghis Khan invaded Iran and Anatolia almost by mistake.
It does amaze me how organised their army was though. It could be argued that their military system was what influenced the later European one, through the Ottoman system in the 1500s.
>>46579
That, and also blind chance. When the Mongols won so many battles, they naturally struck fear into potential enemies who thought the Mongols were invincible (the same thing happened with their descendant, Timur).
They also employed very dirty and unconventional tactics. Upon encountering a Georgian army, for instance, they carried a cross. The Georgians correspondingly thought they were the army of Prester John, and in their naivete were slaughtered. They also did shit like diverting rivers to flood forts and towns near streams.
We were talking about highly developed civilisations they were attacking, after all, who had highly developed ideas of what warfare and treatment was 'right'. The Mongols, as complete barbarians, could manipulate that.
They could also gain the support of marginalised minority groups, since they had religious 'tolerance' which was in practice only realpolitik.
If you want some very good primary sources on Mongolian tactics and culture, you can read Plano de Carpini's 'History of the Mongols' and William of Rubruck's personal account of his narrative to Karakorum. Both were highly articulate and perceptive Franciscans who traveled to the Mongols for different reasons, and allow us to explain a lot about how the Mongols conquered and why they did so.
>>46809
Another point is also the provess of an individual warrior.
A mongolian warrior used a horse and bow from pre-teen years and used them every day to actually sustain his way of life. Being mounted archers was literally their way of life.
Meanwhile, an average chinese or middle eastern soldier was a peasant who probably only held a spear for his first time mere months/weeks before a battle.
Honestly, who was the best US president, solely looking at what their accomplishments during the presidency?
How does Obama stand up to the rest of them?
Ike.
Nixon was better than he's rated as, his actions in international relations were some of the best any president ever managed. But yeah Watergate kind of fucked it all up and rightly so.
I guess it's gonna be our most regular thread.
>>46329
>best
value judgement, not history.
I'm sure like me, many of you have families who laugh or outright mock you for enjoying history and learning about the past. For example, this just happened to me
>Sitting in lounge reading a book about Nazi Germany
>Father walks in
>Starts questioning me
>''Son, why are you reading about things that already happened?''
>look him in the eyes, tell him that people who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it
>he laughs and says ''Oh, are you reading about how Hitler couldn't get a girlfriend to try and avoid his mistakes? It isnt working'' then laughs again
>literally too stupid to realise Hitler had a girlfriend
>shits out a smug grin and walks off
This is how things are for me pretty much every day. If I try to watch a historical documentary on television for example I am made to instantly turn it off because they don't want to watch it.
It seems like a real problem to me. My family have no historical knowledge. The last time we got Indian food I tried to make my sister laugh by playing rule Britannia on my laptop and taking her food away as a joke about the famines during the British Empire and nobody laughed. I don't understand why people are so willingly ignorant of history. It is fucking disgusting.
>>46235
>>he laughs and says ''Oh, are you reading about how Hitler couldn't get a girlfriend to try and avoid his mistakes? It isnt working'' then laughs again
top kek
>>46235
Your family's a bunch of plebs, disregard them, acquire knowledge.
>playing rule Britannia on my laptop and taking her food away as a joke about the famines during the British Empire
10/10 banter
>How do we stop people dismissing history as 'worthless'?
We don't. We trick them into repeating it for personal gain.
Post some music from at least before 1700 CE.
Ancient Roman music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13_kRntszO4
Ancient Greek music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xERitvFYpAk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCj4TRfd6B8
Here's some Byzantine music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHckQsqemQ8
>>46044
Fucking hell, first thing that came to mind was Seikilos. Good one OP.
Which do you like more? Knights or Samurai
Fighting styles, armor, how they acted outside of combat etc.
(politics please go)
>>46033
>that image
>Vikings on the same level as Knights and Samurai
o i'm laffin
>>46033
>samurai or Vikings
>ever being able to take on an European knight
Nope, not happening
Serious question. My girlfriend got in an argument with me, saying that the church's existence has been an overall net negative. I think that isn't quite right, but she cites that the church made people pay to go to heaven, has hindered, and still hinders the progression of science and technology, and uses its wealth to collect artwork and build fancy cathedrals. How would you argue against this?
Please be nice.
>and uses its wealth to collect artwork and build fancy cathedrals
I fucking hate this meme
We're quite lucky a bunch of silly christian monks decided to try and save all they did during the dark ages. At least someone was thinking about the future, and not just grabbing as much Roman land as possible.
>>45995
>What good has the Church done?
kept us from being Muslim.
What are some of the greatest historical alliances? Either by treaty or by circumstance.
Pic related is one of my favourites, and of course the Grand Alliance.
>>45966
Portugal:UK is very long lasting.
>>45966
Well, NATO has yet to lose any wars...
France and the Iroquois
Im writing a rpg setting based on southeastern cultures, but i coudn´t find any extensive book about them, only a few articles here and there, and im not a historian, so my researching capabilities are quite limited due to my ignorance.
Thank you.
>>45945
Oh, OP here.
I´d like to get some anthropology texts too.
Not a book, but extremely useful: http://www.southeastasianarchaeology.com/
It's mostly just a list of news pieces, but you can find some really useful stuff on there, like links to websites.
Sorry I can't recommend any books though.
Do you want any specific information or are you just looking for inspiration?
>>46237
I want general info on their history and culture, how they developed their civilizations? their architecture, folklore, construction methods, the budha/hindu influences, their art.
Stuff like that.
Oh, and im especially interested on their ancient/medieval history.
I want to now something about the ethos of those people.
Lets have a thread to talk about Khazarian people and culture
>>45792
They always blob like crazy in my CKII games.
They are jewish in a CK2 bookmark. That's all I know about them.
Most experts believe it was the original homeland of the jewish people, Israel was actually settled by Jews later on in the picture
General thread for Neokantians, Hegelians, etc. and related studies. Zizek discussion welcome. Remember that philosophy proper started with Kant.
Main philosophers in chronological order:
- Kant (major)
- Fichte (minor)
- Schelling (moderate)
- Hegel (major)
Questions about German Idealism? Ask here.
Basic introduction:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_idealism
http://www.iep.utm.edu/germidea/
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/idealism/
>>45698
this i like
>>45698
Nobody? Self-bump, somebody's got to be interested in philosophy here.
>>45698
I'm currently writing my MA thesis in philosophy, but I'm writing about Heidegger and Husserl and only touching upon Kant in relation to Husserl..
I did write a paper about Ernst Cassirer once though.
What does /his/ think of giant skeletons? Why does the Smithsonian hide their evidence?
>>45681
Isn't basketball enough evidence of tall people?
>>45681
Hidden or just put away? They cant display everything. So if they had large skeletons on display for a hundred years, they might put them away to make room for something else.
Evidence of what, that there was a really tall Indian?
People can grow to that height, it's not like he was an AYYLien
Adlof Hitler congratulates African American Olympic Gold Medalist, Jesse Owens
>>45639
>fake photos thread
>>45639
Shooped as fuuuaaarrrrrk
>>45639
dude wtf???
What was your thesis/dissertation on /his/?
It was basically an examination of the Wallace Sword.
tl;dr it's fake
>>45736
Are we talking fake like from the same time period but not his, or fake like a complete replica?
MA dissertation title: "What was the strategic situation faced by the Eastern Roman Empire, and what means were employed by the Empire which allowed it to survive for as long as it did?"
History is full of creative and intricate weaponry, post all your favorite pieces.
Russian Civil War battletrains.
>>45608
btw why India and Africa have the craziest weapons? were they just mythical or actually used in battle?
So was there ever a more evil nation than Imperial Japan?
>>45423
Nations are not evil
>>45423
Commie China, seriously.
>>45476
This desu. Though nationalist China wasn't far behind