>Pope Leo X: sold indulgences, killed cardinals. Leo X was Pope from 1513 to his death in 1521. He is known primarily for the sale of indulgences to reconstruct St. Peter's Basilica.
Pope Julius III looted the papal coffers to renovate his mansion in Rome. Julius III was known to have a thing for younger men. He liked to have sex with kids.
>Pope Paul III wasn't just a bad pope, he was a bad dude all around. He murdered relatives, including poisoning his mother and niece, to inherit the family fortune. Paul III was also notoriously corrupt, despite his supposed anti-corruption stance. Any position in the church was for sale and he famously took control of some 45,000 Roman prostitutes and then took a cut of their earnings.
Pope John XII was a notorious sex fiend. He had sex with women and men in the papal palace and when visitors refused his attentions he went ahead and raped them anyway. The same hospitality was extended to his two young sisters. He held massive orgies and took particular pleasure in defiling holy sites, like the tombs of Saint Peter and Saint Paul, with his sinful acts.
"John XII was worthy of being the rival of Elagabalus... a robber, a murderer, and incestuous person, unworthy to represent Christ upon the pontifical throne... This abominable priest soiled the chair of St. Peter for nine entire years and deserved to be called the most wicked of popes."[33]
>"hurr durr God's true church protestantz go to hell if they don't follow us"
Then there was the Borgia Pope who changed the law so he could keep marrying and murdering countless wives.
Seriously, you'd expect us to keep following such a corrupt church and believe these men speak on behalf of God himself?
Who could blame anyone for wanting to separate themselves from such murderous thieves?
>Mass is so sacred tadition if you don't attend church you goes to hellz hurr
The “Mass” began when early Christians gathered together in their homes to share a meal in memory of Jesus, as he had asked them to do on the night before he died (“The Last Supper”). There was no obligation about this originally–Christians got together to pray, hear the Scriptures read, and share the meal because they wanted to. Over time the meal became more formalized and ritualized, and included readings from Scripture. As more time passed and Christians became more and more distant from the time of Jesus their enthusiasm waned and they no longer gathered for Mass so eagerly. So the church imposed a rule obligating Christians to attend Mass at least on Sunday.
>The word church in the Bible comes from the Greek word ecclesia, which means a called out company or assembly. Wherever it is used in the Bible it refers to people. It can be a mob (Acts 19:30-41), the children of Israel (Acts 7:38), and the body of Christ (Ephesians 1:22; Ephesians 5:25, 32).
Damn I didn't know this board was created.
Nice thread.
On a side note, isn't the existence of witches and satanical pact still canon for Catholics today? Considering a bunch of papal bullae like Summis Desiderantes, since the Papal infallibility became a dogma as well during the First Vatican Council.
Why were 20th century decolonization campaigns so successful?
Almost every single one was won by the natives.
>>34097
Changes in military technology privileged "nations," in particular the AK-47 and cheap cultural logistics.
The Soviet Union provided a reservoir of support from 1917 for national liberation struggles, usually by non-comprador bourgeois.
Capitalism developed post-national methods of imperialist exploitation, the United States' economic hegemony over the Monroe Doctrine nations as a case in point.
During and after WWII changing technologies and cultures in the colonised areas produced a generation of able colonially trained administrators who were of the local nationalities.
Only the Portuguese and French really tried to fight it.
>>34097
Lack of manpower of WWII, organization of colonial forces into empowered armies due to having to import fighting forces DURING WWII, support from the Soviet Union, and popular opinion being against keeping colonies in almost all cases.
What if he didn't buddy up with Hitler?
Do you think he would've achieved an Italian Miracle?
>>34054
Define "Italian Miracle" please.
At the very least the armed forces would still be rife with nepotism and inept commanders.
he would have lasted long like Franco and the economic boom in the 60s would not have happened
>>34129
Alluding to the Spanish Miracle
/his/ must read guide
Go!
I've been working on a general history guide. This is my current list.
Egypt, Greece, and Rome: Civilizations of the Ancient Mediteranean, Second Edition
Penguin Historical Atlas of Ancient Greece
Oxford's Brief History of Ancient Greece
Histories of Herodotus
The History of the Peloponnesian War by Thucydides
Anabasis by Xenophon
The Conquests of Alexander by Arrian
The New Oxford Annotated Bible
Penguin Historical Atlas of Ancient Rome
Oxford's Brief History of Ancient Rome
Ab Urbe Condita Libri by Livy
Commentary on the Gallic Wars by Julius Caesar
Rubicon: The Last Years of the Roman Republic
The Twelve Caesars by Suetonius
The Annals by Tacitus
Parallel Lives by Plutarch
>>34186
>no Sallust
>no Polybius
m8
Also OP feel free to include Gibbon in your list, ignore the chucklefucks who shit on him
>>33949
Thompson, Making
Engels, German Peasants War
Kuhn, Structure of Scientific Revolutions
Who's your favorite explorer/adventurer?
>El Draque
>Philip the 2nd offered the equivalent of 6.5 million dollars for his head
>second only to Black Sam in the wealth hierarchy of pirate kings
>burned the spanish armada
>raided new world colonies and feared the length of the spanish coast
>probably fucked elizabeth
Pic related. Utterly epic, got to the Pacific *AND* Arctic overland long before Lewis and Clark ever thought of the idea.
>>33917
yours tbqhaf
Is Mali the most underrated empire?
Is that a fucking sandcastle? lmao
>>33695
Lol a mudcastle. I could build this over a few weekends with my friends.
Has anyone here taught themselves Latin?
What resources did you use? Where did you start?
Caecillius est in horto.
>>33654
cambridge is probably the best beginner's book.
>>33654
ty
Does Christopher Columbus deserve to be as vilified as he is today?
Absolutely not
>>33258
why not
>>33239
Was he a brave explorer who falsified the size of the globe as smaller than it was so he could get the OK to explore unknown waters, or a fool who thought he really could sail to eastern Asia over Atlantic?
Suppose, for one moment, that we were making a mascot about this board. A drawn mascot, that is.
If you were to design that mascot, and your choices would be between
A) A little ghost girl
or
B) An old man/woman
Which one would you pick?
http://strawpoll.me/5891747
>A little ghost girl
What? No.
I pick the other one by default.
Hello I'm here to discuss history.
>>33106
>strawpoll
FUCK NO ABANDON THREAD ABANDON THREAD
How many of you have actually read Herodotus? I wouldn't really read it for historical value, but its such an enjoyable read nonetheless. It blends history and legend so elegantly. The sections on Persia, Egypt, and Phoenicians are my favorite, as well as learning about the tyrants of Corinth.
>>33010
>that part about the Phoenicians prostituting their daughters in temples
Got pretty hard desu.
Again, it's like poetry - sorta, they rhyme.
I read Herodotus way back in my A-levels doing work on the Persian Empire. I can't remember much since it was so long ago but I remember really appreciating his work because most of the other shit was so blatantly fucking fictional that his work seemed sane.
>>33132
>>33010
People like to shit on Herodotus as the father of lies, but I think he's actually one of the best historians ever. Do you know why?
Instead of...
>i'm writing many years later but I know for a fact that x did y
Herodotus did...
>since I wasn't there because it was several years ago I had to speak to people who were there or their children, one group says that x did y but another group said that x did z. I'm not sure which is true but i'll leave that up to the reader to interpret.
If later historians did shit like this, the entire field would be much better.
more than certain that other users have their own items tucked away somewhere
so lets bring them out and see if anybody has any questions
starting out with a map of mine, i forgot the date but its 19th century, nice quality, from a book.
contain prussia, denmark, and holland
>>32860
continuing with the backside of the map
>>32880
this is a spanish coin i got at a most reasonable price (5$)
it is from 1781 and in relatively good condition
>>32911
and the backside of the coin
apparently these are commonly found in the ocean, my knowledge of the spanish is limited so i am uncertain about any significance this coin would have
but i would like to know, if anybody has that information
Why was the Karl Marx thread deleted?
Marxism is a philosophy and the sticky reads "This board is dedicated to the discussion of history and the other humanities such as PHILOSOPHY, religion, law, classical artwork, archeology, anthropology, ancient languages, etc." There should be no reason for the marx thread to be deleted.
If I am not mistaken, one of the reasons /his/ was created was to get the philosophy content off of /lit/, so why when someone posts a thread advocating discussion on a particular subject of philosophy does it get deleted? I would love for this to be explained.
There was surprisingly little shitposting in it too (at least compared to all the threads that mention Africa or WWII) so it seems like an odd choice for deletion.
did you start with the greeks /his/?
>>32595
No, I started with the Egyptians, like the rest of the world.
Greeks are a meme
>>32644
Cool, so you read about a bunch of useless people putting rocks on the ground? Sounds like a good plan if you want to get into history.
ITT we post and discuss historical arms and armour
Old thread >>27587
Pic shows a suit of Gothic armour, a popular style produced mainly in South Germany and Northern Italy during the late 15th century.
/k/ here, stumbled across this.
anyon e have experience with saxes? particularly norse examples of longsax.
I seem to find conflicting reports of them being hilted and pommeled just like a sword, and in fact becoming the single edged swords, and others that say only the mentioned swords have the sword fittings and a regular longsax still had no guard or fittings whatsoever.
id think a long stabbing weapon would be, well, somewhat unsafe to stab at without something preventing your hand from sliding off the handle onto the blade if it hit something solid.
>>32509
Can every one provide details like this on images they post this time like OP
>pic
Irish infantry during the Anglo - Spanish War (1585 - 1604)
Note the armour and arms are heavily influenced by their Spanish contemporaries
>>32509
Seaxes later developed pommels and guards akin to swords.
Who is the biggest meme in history?
The jewish people.
God.
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